--- Lars Aronsson lars@aronsson.se wrote:
Anthere wrote:
Ah, and who do you think would appoint a "site
owner" ???
Jimbo ?
Yes, of course. He owns the system, the name, and the machines. He is very generous and liberal, but he is the owner. If you fear that he will shut down Wikipedia, you should keep a backup copy of the GFDL contents on your own computer, but it is not self-evident that you can reuse the name "Wikipedia", since that would be regulated by U.S. trademark law. Jimmy might decide to form a non-profit organization under U.S. law or perhaps Swiss law (like the U.N.?), but as far as I know, he hasn't done this yet.
I'm not unhappy with this. I fully trust Jimmy. But I don't see the point in denying the fact that he owns the current system and trademark. If you eat in a restaurant, the restaurant has an owner, even if you pay for your food.
Lars, there's something rather important that I would like to state here. And that will go for every embassador I think. If we are, for example, to report what the feelings on a subject are on a international wiki, I think it is important that one does not confuse the feelings reported with the feelings of the reporter. And I feel that some of the "you" over there might be adressed to me.
So, let's say, I have no problem with Jimbo being an owner, and I decided to trust him. I don't like an encyclopedia being confused with a dictionary (though I own a Larousse encyclop�dique and like it a lot, so could survive with a few dictionary definitions included in Wikipedia). I dont feel any need for a backupcopy. But I'm not gonna talk about the french wikipedians by saying "they", but rather "we" or "some" or "most" And I say, I think "most" would not appreciate at all a surrogate site owner appointed by Jimbo. This is just my opinion of course...
My personal belief is that we have to share a common set of rules, the rest of them are our own business, as long as it respect the common set view.
"Wikipedia is not a dictionary". So if the French Wikipedia is becoming a dictionary, somebody is breaking this rule. Either the French Wikipedia should straight up, or the rule should be revised.
The French wikipedia is not becoming a dic. Some support it, other do not; and since we don't agree on that, there certainly is no rules. So nothing to revise. And I don't see very well who could straighten that up.
This has not been the conclusion of previous discussions on this list regarding the English Wikipedia. People are now actively deleting "stub" articles.
this is an english rule. It was discussed on the english list, by english people. Not us. Does your wiki only follow english rules ? You don't have your own ?
If you eat in a restaurant or stay in a hotel, you must behave as the owner tells you.
I know how to behave when it is *required*. You are welcome to invite me to the restaurant in the future. I will behave ;-)
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