At 03:55 AM 9/5/02 -0700, you wrote:
Gareth Owen wrote:
"Michael R. Irwin" mri_icboise@surfbest.net writes:
Jimmy Wales wrote:
But, the Holocaust was undeserved. That's as uncontroversial a fact as "The Earth goes around the Sun".
Only if one considers a major World War beneath notice. To me that
seems a
bit controversial if one is presenting an NPOV as a neutral reporter.
Excuse me, but perhaps you could enlighten me as to in what way the
holocaust
was deserved?
I do not think that I have asserted that it was deserved, merely that many people were involved in helping create it. Presumably they believed it was deserved. It has been my experience that few people consider themselves the villians or perpetrators of injustice. It is usually the view of one faction that it is the other side's fault and vice versa.
Thus it has been my assertion that at least some of the Germans responsible for it (the Holocaust) probably felt it was deserved and this (and reasons they provide regarding why they felt it was deserved) could be reliably reported within the confines of an "NPOV" presentation of the facts surrounding the holocaust.
We have done that. The reasoning is set forth (probably more fully than necessary) in the article on [[Nazism]].
What the discussion is about is nonsense about Zionism "causing" the holocaust and other historical revisionist, neo-nazi crap.
Likewise maybe we will have an article on Stalin that sets forth his reasons, but neutral point of view isn't going to require an article on Trotskyite Wreckers and how wide spread sabotage lead to necessary elimination of the perpetrators.
I have changed the name of the article because this is not Helga talking, her issue or her position, as far as I know.
Fred