Yann Forget wrote:
Hi,
Le Tuesday 28 June 2005 11:46, Phil Boswell a écrit :
"Mark Williamson" node.ue@gmail.com wrote in message news:849f98ed050627143841a440ca@mail.gmail.com... [heavy snippage]
... Quenya, Sindarin, Cirth, and Tengwar have some degree of followers (to be sure, I sometimes wish Tolkien had combined all his languages into Tolkienish --- it's too bad the Tolkien languages fanbase is sort of divided over so many different languages)
So why not have one "Middle-Earth languages" wikipedia, which can accept articles written in any or all of the above?
I don't think there should be any Wikipedia in any of the Tolkien languages. Tolkien is a wonderful author, but Wikipedia is not here to host this kind of languages. But maybe in Wikicities ?
I would also be happy to rid Wiktionary of this sort of thing. The supporters of these languages seem to have only questionable contact with reality. Tolkien was a learnèd man whose philological studies helped to make his stories more vibrant, but sometimes people need to be reminded tha "Lord of the Rings" was a work of _fiction_. The languages developed there are also works of fiction with no credibility in the real world, and no basis for development beyond the context of Tolkien's books. That being said, any attempt at building an encyclopedia in these languages must falter when it needs to develop vocabulary for concepts that are alien to Middle Earth.
It is fitting that Wikipedia have an article giving an outline of these languages, and that Wikibooks might even give an outline of the grammar. Apart from that can we at least try to find some separation between the real and fantasy world?
Ec