OK Mark,
it is dangerous to feed the trolls, but there are some things that need to be sorted out.
Point C: No one cares if it's patentplatt, if they have a problem with it they will change it!
Noone cares if it's patentplatt? You obviously didn't read Point C -- Jonny Meinbohm and Ron Hahn __DO__ care. Ron tried to change it, but Heiko was as always very cold towards him and took a very uninviting stance, as usual, rather than welcoming in and being thankful for a native speaker as it should be.
1) we are on a good way in nds.wikpedia.org. The flooding with low quality articles has stopped. There has been a lot of cleanup, and recently some nice new articles were written. 2) I am interested in building up, but your intention is tearing down. I can live with a certain abount of problems in nds.wikpedia.org and I prefer helping people instead of accusing them. The one user who wrote lots of low quality articles is doing a quite good job at the moment with edits where he has sufficient competence. I think you would just have kicked him out. 3) For the record: several of Ron's proposals are still kept in the current article, this includes grammar fixes, choice of words, but it specifically EXCLUDES changes in spelling. The text originally came from Ron, but was made in anonymous edits. Anonymous edits are suspicious. We do have lots of trouble with anonymous spamming and (as said before) anonymous edits are living a dangerous life. Most of his changes were spelling, and these changes went against our spelling policy on nds. Therefore I took his article, and reverted the spelling changes. Even at that time I checked the grammar changes and kept some of them. Then you started a spelling war on nds. This I reverted. I will continue to do so, unless there is a broad consensus in nds to switch spelling. (And besides: any further edit war by you on nds will be ansered with a swift blocking.) Ron's suggestions about grammar fixes will always be welcome. I liked his lowlands-l, but it has much too much traffic, and therefore I have unsubscribed from this list. I appreciate his experience in Low Saxon. We have been in contact concerning "Linux op platt", and he has helped us with several words about computers. If the first edit had not been anonymously, things might have been different.
- It's quite self-serving of you to say, "Well, they're officially
one language" just because you want them to have a single Wikipedia. I can't find very many pages that say "dutch low saxon":
OK, would you prefer to say "Plattdüütsch" and "Nedersaksisch", or would you still complain that "Nedersaksisch" should also include the area of "Niedersachsen"? That is the problem with you. You twist the words in our mouth.
Regards,
Heiko