Clutch wrote:
Toby Bartels wrote:
See, Lir sees things in highly politicised terms, and is a leftist (an anarcosocial-communist, to be precise),
No. He adopts the rhetoric of libertian socialism, but is really a burn-and-smash nihilist. Not the same thing at all, and rather a discredit to freedom lovers everywhere.
Goodness, I'm not claiming that Adam/Lir is an *intelligent* political thinker! Only that (s)he (under either name) identifies with the political left. (Just look at the list at [[m:anarcosocial-communism]].) That's enough for my theory -- he can still be a discredit.
while Helga's edits could easily be seen as rightwing (perhaps sympathetic to Nazis, and definitely antiCommunist).
Even libertarian socialists are firmly opposed to Marxism, Leninism, and Stalinism. As for the Nazis, they were socialists too.
Sure, *real* anarchists oppose Marxism, but you just said that Lir is a faker. And even then, anarchists oppose Redbaiting, which Helga has tendencies toward. (I don't want to charge Helga with anything seriously along those lines; the only issue is what one might reasonably expect Lir to perceive.) Also, calling Hitler "socialist" is like, well, calling Stalin "socialist". (Or calling either "democratic", which both liars claimed to be as well.)
If Lir does see them that way, and thus identifies Helga as an enemy, the naturally this is just what she would do!
In which case we should deny Lir the impression that he is still able to manipulate or have an effect on the Wikipedia.
I only want Lir to get the impression that I made a joke out of the situation. And this is enough work to sustain that joke, I think.
-- Toby