This is what would reasonably happen, Mark. In my opinion, of course.
Currently people "give a damn" because it represents incorreclty Moldova. Personally, I cannot stand when my country is represented n'*importe comment * on Wikipedia.
We don't use this writing, Mark. Apart from exceptions, nowhere. This writing, for all areas of life, is a reality of the past. And do not try to discredit my words stating that "he is not in Moldova". I lived my whole life in Moldova, which makes, roughly, 20 years. I read news. I return to Moldova at least one time per year. I know what happens there. We don't use this writing. Other Moldovans that are currently in Moldova could easily backup this.
If you want to write articles, I have nothing against it. Moving all you have done on mo.wikipedia.org to mo-cyr.wikipedia.org would in no way interrupt your work. And your work would cease disturbing people concerned.
But enough on this. Let's see the way the current votehttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects#Closure_of_Moldovan_Wikipediaon meta ends.
On 7/4/06, Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com wrote:
Is that a threat?
Why should anyone "give a damn" now? What reason is there for people to not just ignore it and work on the Romanian Wikipedia? Really, there is no good reason. Any good Wikipedian should focus on fixing articles, writing new articles, etc., instead of fussing about something like this.
I just want to write articles, but you and your friends insist on interrupting.
Mark
On 04/07/06, Liviu Andronic landronimirc@gmail.com wrote:
Everyone will start ignoring it, as soon as the Moldovan Wikipedia gets
out
of the mo.wikipedia.org domain. No one would give a damn about it.
On 7/4/06, Mark Williamson <node.ue@gmail.com > wrote:
Would it really make everyone happy?
No.
There would still be people whinging endlessly that it should be closed and/or deleted.
Mark
On 03/07/06, Liviu Andronic < landronimirc@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree that simple ignoring of this project would make it disappear
in
a
one-two year time.
What the you do not get is that there is one simple solution: move
mo to
mo-cyr. And everyone gets happy.
Is this so difficult?
On 7/2/06, Gerard Meijssen < gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi, You do not get it.
It is an annoyance. One of the points made is that the Moldovan wikipedia is just trolling. Consider what makes a troll thrive; attention. The more attention that you give it, ANY attention the
more
it will get entrenched. There is this saying: "I do not care what
they
say about me as long as they write my name correctly", all this attention makes the mo.wikipedia "relevant". If it is not
relevant,
refrain from giving it attention and at some time it will just evaporate. If it does not, it cannot be considered trolling and
you
are
plain wrong.
The best thing for you to do: shut up. Ignore this project.
Everybody
will be happier and maybe you will be proven to be right.
Thanks, GerardM
Liviu Andronic wrote:
I would have to object to the position taken by people who can
make
a
difference.
IMHO, all this Moldovan issue annoys you as much as it does me.
I do
not
want to dispute on this, as much as you do not want to read all
this
junk.
I am wondering if the Moldovan Wikipedia is such unimportant an
issue. I
agree that it is a rarely used Wikipedia. And still, for an
unimportant
Wikipedia, it does create a lot of headache to the entire
community.
If
this
issue flames every three months on this mailing list and on all
possible
Talk pages and triggers revert-wars on related English and
Moldovan
Wikipedia articles, then I believe that there is obviously a
problem.
Not that this entire dispute be fair or ethical - it is a dirty
war
that
I
personally detest -, but is it an ethically correct position for
those
who
can make a difference to just ignore?
Is it so unimportant that a whole Wikipedia section could create
confusion
and desinformation? Isn't Wikipedia supposed to provide a "free
encyclopedia
of the highest possible quality"?
Personally for me, it is strange how people with the ability to
take
and
implement a decision, simply choose to ignore. All possible and
impossible
arguments were already presented here, on the mailing list, and
all
over
the English and Moldovan Wikipedia, and on Metawiki. What rests
to
do is
use
common sense to decide on this issue.
It is even stranger for me the way a decision already taken by
stewards
and
bureaucrats was simply ignored and not implemented.
But, then, it is up to the decision-makers to decide the stance
to
adopt. I
still hope that they will choose as soon as possible to stop
deliberately
ignoring this issue. The problem is that this issue will not
cease
re-appearing on this mailing-list. My reason for this is that an
entire
country and population (this makes an approximate 3.5 million
persons)
are
incorrectly represented on Wikipedia. And one of these, or me -
if
no
one
else does it -, will certainly re-open this discussion in a
two-three
months
time.
If you managed to read till this point, thank you.
Liviu
On 6/30/06, Brion Vibber < brion@pobox.com> wrote:
> Jacky PB wrote: > >> Where are the decision makers? Isn't there nobody >> > No one else is interested in this issue, and getting involved
would
mean
> wasting > a lot of time with people fighting a lot over something
unimportant.
The
> safest > course is thus to leave a rarely-used wiki sitting there, same
as
we do
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