On Jan 20, 2004, at 00:00, Ulrich Fuchs wrote:
The main change is that in browsers which do not support changing a text selection or inserting text at the cursor (Opera and Konqueror), you now
Far better this way. With my Konqueror it works.
(It uses this same behavior in Safari.)
I don't have M$ Explorer. However, I think (as far as I have read) that there the buttons insert things like '''bold text''' at the cursor position. What happens, if text is selected? Does it gets overwritten with '''bold text''' or does it result in '''selected text'''? (Because the latter is what a newbie user would expect, from his/her experiences with standard word processing applications) Is that implemented/implementable?
Yes; if text is selected when you click the button, the selected text is surrounded with the ''' markup (or whatever). It's actually kind of neat. :)
In Mozilla this works but there is a bug in Mozilla that causes the textarea to scroll up to the top if there is more text than fits at once. This is going to be extremely confusing for a newbie; if there's no workaround I've been suggesting to Erik that we just have Mozilla fall back to the other behavior (with the secondary box that shows the markup so you can look at it or cut-n-paste).
It's really _meant_ for novice users, so having it completely off by default misses the point. :) But we don't want it to be frustrating, either.
I've also found it to be somewhat problematic in Internet Explorer for Mac if the browser window is smallish, the focus changes cause things to scroll around strangely. I'm not sure what's the best course of action there.
Any other Mac users, can you try editing on test.wikipedia.org and let me know what works / doesn't work / goes wacky and crazy?
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