On Thursday, 19th February 2004, at 07:46 (GMT), Delirium wrote:
Michael Snow wrote:
Jimmy Wales wrote:
I would strongly prefer that people not post images to wikipedia with permission *just* for Wikipedia. We're a GNU-free project, and we will always remain such.
Sadly, this ideological point of view, though it I would like to follow, is sadly a rather unworkable one, as SecretLondon and others have pointed out, as most of the useful images (for a small cross- section, at least) we have are unusable.
Special:Upload should have a much more obvious statement of this than merely a checkbox for "I affirm that the copyright holder of this file agrees to license it under the terms of the [[Wikipedia:Copyrights|Wikipedia copyright]]." It ought to have a warning similar to what shows up below the box on an editing page, without the stuff specifically oriented to text. Like this:
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Can we get this change made, please?
Sounds like a good idea, certainly.
I think this change should be made together with the change to categorize images, because with that change it'd be impossible to upload fair use images without lying when you click the box. I'd certainly support a change that had:
[] This image is in the public domain [] I am the copyright holder and license this image under the GFDL. [] This image is licensed under the GFDL by ___ [] This image is licensed by ___ under the following more-permissive-than-the-GFDL conditions: ____ (e.g., BSD-style license or something) [] This image is claimed to be fair use, with the following rationale: ___
And then a warning that if your image does not fall under one of these options, you cannot upload it.
I think we should also have an option of:
[] This image is otherwise licensed for Wikimedia by ____ under the following terms:
... possibly with a set of sub-options, like: [] non-distributable [] sub-distributable [] non-commercial [] non-profit sales only [] licenser credited [] image unchanged ... &c.
A point that seems to be being ignored is that fair use is not at all applicable outside of the US; given that a major reason that we're doing this is in preparation for Wikipedia 1.0 for **international** release, I think that we should bear in mind that we'll have to junk every such-sourced image for it anyway - we will be required to carry different flavours of the release depending on use and territory; having another category, such as this one, is not a significant further burden, IMO.
Yours,