I dont think its all that much of a mess -- so much to blame Erik. It is a mess, though and there are some lessons to be sifted from all of this -- but I think for the most part -- as a preliminary round sort of thing, I think its gone fairly well. Only one will win out, and it looks like the puzzle concept is by far the strongest, all around. It looked like a winner from the beginning, and it still looks that way (though its way too damn busy and cluttered as it is).
All in all, the next time a big vote comes around, there needs to be *radiobutton and cgi-counted votes - *excluding repeat IPs *standard time deadlines --*votes on the deadlines - not just a day or twos discussion.
All is well that doesnt fall on your head at 4km/second. -S-
--- Anthere anthere6@yahoo.com wrote:
Erik,
I am a bit disturbed
You started the new logo contest. You made the pages, you set the rules. Some people are following all the cheating that is occurring along, and you have no reaction whatsoever. A certain degree of cheating is no big deal, but to my opinion, there are limits. I think as the organizer of the contest, you could at least react to some of the worse irregularities. Right now, anyone can vote under an ip, anyone can vote without anyone knowing them, anyone can replace the logo of someone else by his, in particular in the top 10. And perhaps a logo which was in the top 10 before being replaced by another won't be in the top 10 anymore, just because someone had fun replacing that top 10 logo.
And there are no reactions whatsoever.
The logo issue in itself is not important. But again, this case is an experiment. It is the experiment of how of whole organization could work together with a common decision process. With respect and honesty toward those who created the artwork, and respect and honesty toward those who came to vote, and have the belief we are all sharing something.
User:Kat left a couple of days ago, because too disgusted by the decision process on the en wiki, among other things. Right now, at wikipedia-wide level, community does not scale either. I think any of the international votes are important because they are big scale experiment of how a "big" community could take decisions together.
If we are so careless with these kind of decisions, I see not why we would be better with more important decisions. What is occuring is reflecting a broken organisation.
Since no one reacted except Olie himself, I will be bold. Whatever the outcome of the logo contest, if logo 124 is not in the top 10, there will be 11 logos in the top 10.
And I also think the next international vote will need to be much better organised.
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