Wikipedia Romania (Ronline) schrieb:
Magnus, this is a big shift, you must understand. It is not a minor editing change. The point is, as you said above, that we're changing our wiki nature to sort of become half-wiki. With stable versions, particularly if shown as default, Wikipedia will become a static encyclopedia, with the option to then edit articles as a secondary structure. Wikipedia is a wiki and should always stay a wiki. Any systematic form of article protection/anti-wiki structures outside of temporary bans and stuff like that is a major shift and IMO goes against the principles of wiki.
As has been discussed time and again, Wikipedia is not primarily a *wiki*, or some social experiment. It is an *encyclopedia* which currently /uses/ a wiki to create content.
So if we have to change the behaviour of the wiki (while keeping it a wiki, please don't say otherwise, it's just not true) in order or serve the main purpose of being an encyclopedia, that's what we'll do.
Secondly, we really need to have widespread community consensus on this. It's great to see that so many people are giving their opinions here. I don't know what the plan is to lauch stable versions - whether they will simply be included in the new MediaWiki, but I think before it's introduced, people need to really be aware of this shift.
I completely agree with this.
Well, George Bush isn't protected actually. I mean, maybe it's protected 25% of the time due to vandalism, but that's only because it goes through patterns of protected-unprotected-protected, etc. It's not systematically, permanently protected. Yes, this could be fixed for stable versions, but only at the cost of effectively locking down the main versions of potentially more than 800,000 articles!
All article versions *are* locked down right now. You can't change any article version on Wikipedia. What you *can* do is to add a new version, more or less based on an old one.
Wether we show the stable version by default and link to the latest version, or the other way around, is a matter of emphasis.
Magnus