I was describing to someone how Wikipedia works:
"anyone can edit" etc.
He answered with this argument:
"Wikipedia is the triumph of the average person!
of the man in the street!)"
(average meaning: not good, not bad, just OK)
I asked "why?"
His explanation:
"Great brilliant works are built by individuals.
Groups of people can only create average works.
If someone writes something good in the wiki,
other average persons will intervene with his/her
work and turn it into an average work. If someone
writes something bad in the wiki, the others will
again turn it into something of average value.
with your system (meaning: Wikipedia's system)
you can be sure that you will never create
something too bad but also never something too
good. You can create only average articles."
The idea behind his argument was that Wikipedia
will be a good resource as long as it attracts
good cotnributors. but it will soon become an
average site/encyclopaedia because it allows
anyone to join the project and edit, and most
people are just average persons and not brilliant
writers.
Do you think it's true? and how can we answer
this argument?
--Optim
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On Sunday 28 July 2002 03:00 am, The Cunctator wrote:
> What are the articles this person has been changing?
For 66.108.155.126:
20:08 Jul 27, 2002 Computer
20:07 Jul 27, 2002 Exploit
20:07 Jul 27, 2002 AOL
20:05 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
20:05 Jul 27, 2002 Leet
20:03 Jul 27, 2002 Root
20:02 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
19:59 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
19:58 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
19:54 Jul 27, 2002 Principle of least astonishment
19:54 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
19:52 Jul 27, 2002 Trance music
19:51 Jul 27, 2002 Trance music
For 208.24.115.6:
20:20 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
For 141.157.232.26:
20:19 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker
Most of these were complete replacements with discoherent statements.
Such as "TAP IS THE ABSOLUTE DEFINITION OF THE NOUN HACKER" for Hacker.
For the specifics follow http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/Special:Ipblocklist
and look at the contribs.
--mav
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> On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 at 13:20, Wolfgang Lucena <wolfgang.lucena(a)gmail.com>
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> Please don't. See the advice at:
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Hey
I would like to post my biography in Wikipedia...How can I do that?
Best
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> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
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> Hi all,
>
> The next Research Showcase will be live-streamed next Wednesday, October
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>
> YouTube stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ35weAVlIU
>
> As usual, you can join the conversation on IRC at #wikimedia-research. You
> can also watch our past Research Showcases here:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Research/Showcase
>
> This month's presentations:
>
> Elections Without Fake: Deploying Real Systems to Counter Misinformation
> Campaigns
>
> By Fabrício Benevenuto, Computer Science Department, Universidade Federal
> de Minas Gerais (UFMG), Brazil
>
> The political debate and electoral dispute in the online space during the
> 2018 Brazilian elections were marked by an information war. In order to
> mitigate the misinformation problem, we created the project Elections
> Without Fake <http://www.eleicoes-sem-fake.dcc.ufmg.br/> and developed a
> few technological solutions able to reduce the abuse of misinformation
> campaigns in the online space. Particularly, we created a system to monitor
> public groups in WhatsApp and a system to monitor ads in Facebook. Our
> systems showed to be fundamental for fact-checking and investigative
> journalism, and are currently being used by over 150 journalists with
> editorial lines and various fact-checking agencies.
>
> More info on second talk by Francesca Spezzano to come
>
>
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Forwarding in case this is of interest to others.
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From: Janna Layton <jlayton(a)wikimedia.org>
Date: Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 9:58 PM
Subject: [Analytics] [Wikimedia Research Showcase] October 16, 2019 at 9:30
AM PDT, 16:30 UTC
To: <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>, <analytics(a)lists.wikimedia.org>, <
wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Hi all,
The next Research Showcase will be live-streamed next Wednesday, October
16, at 9:30 AM PDT/16:30 UTC.
YouTube stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ35weAVlIU
As usual, you can join the conversation on IRC at #wikimedia-research. You
can also watch our past Research Showcases here:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Research/Showcase
This month's presentations:
Elections Without Fake: Deploying Real Systems to Counter Misinformation
Campaigns
By Fabrício Benevenuto, Computer Science Department, Universidade Federal
de Minas Gerais (UFMG), Brazil
The political debate and electoral dispute in the online space during the
2018 Brazilian elections were marked by an information war. In order to
mitigate the misinformation problem, we created the project Elections
Without Fake <http://www.eleicoes-sem-fake.dcc.ufmg.br/> and developed a
few technological solutions able to reduce the abuse of misinformation
campaigns in the online space. Particularly, we created a system to monitor
public groups in WhatsApp and a system to monitor ads in Facebook. Our
systems showed to be fundamental for fact-checking and investigative
journalism, and are currently being used by over 150 journalists with
editorial lines and various fact-checking agencies.
More info on second talk by Francesca Spezzano to come
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