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comment on wikipedia
by Optim 15 Aug '24

15 Aug '24

I was describing to someone how Wikipedia works: "anyone can edit" etc. He answered with this argument: "Wikipedia is the triumph of the average person! of the man in the street!)" (average meaning: not good, not bad, just OK) I asked "why?" His explanation: "Great brilliant works are built by individuals. Groups of people can only create average works. If someone writes something good in the wiki, other average persons will intervene with his/her work and turn it into an average work. If someone writes something bad in the wiki, the others will again turn it into something of average value. with your system (meaning: Wikipedia's system) you can be sure that you will never create something too bad but also never something too good. You can create only average articles." The idea behind his argument was that Wikipedia will be a good resource as long as it attracts good cotnributors. but it will soon become an average site/encyclopaedia because it allows anyone to join the project and edit, and most people are just average persons and not brilliant writers. Do you think it's true? and how can we answer this argument? --Optim __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/

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Re: [Wikipedia-l] multi-headed VANDALS
by Daniel Mayer 18 Jan '23

18 Jan '23

On Sunday 28 July 2002 03:00 am, The Cunctator wrote: > What are the articles this person has been changing? For 66.108.155.126: 20:08 Jul 27, 2002 Computer 20:07 Jul 27, 2002 Exploit 20:07 Jul 27, 2002 AOL 20:05 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker 20:05 Jul 27, 2002 Leet 20:03 Jul 27, 2002 Root 20:02 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker 19:59 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker 19:58 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker 19:54 Jul 27, 2002 Principle of least astonishment 19:54 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker 19:52 Jul 27, 2002 Trance music 19:51 Jul 27, 2002 Trance music For 208.24.115.6: 20:20 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker For 141.157.232.26: 20:19 Jul 27, 2002 Hacker Most of these were complete replacements with discoherent statements. Such as "TAP IS THE ABSOLUTE DEFINITION OF THE NOUN HACKER" for Hacker. For the specifics follow http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/Special:Ipblocklist and look at the contribs. --mav

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Re: [Wikipedia-l] Wikipedia-l Digest, Vol 138, Issue 4
by reguyla＠gmail.com 22 May '16

22 May '16

For an organization that doesnt want editors you sure send out a lot of spam. Are you really just trying to piss me off? If you want to support bullies instead of editors take me off these fucking spam lists. When you want to get back to building an encyclopedia again then unblock my account and Ill be interested in reading these. Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE device ------ Original message------From: Date: Sun, May 22, 2016 8:01 AMTo: wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org;Subject:Wikipedia-l Digest, Vol 138, Issue 4 Send Wikipedia-l mailing list submissions to wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.orgTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-lor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikipedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.orgYou can reach the person managing the list at wikipedia-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.orgWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of Wikipedia-l digest..."Today's Topics: 1. Re: Wikipedia-l Digest, Vol 138, Issue 3 (reguyla(a)gmail.com) 2. Re: Wikipedia-l Digest, Vol 138, Issue 3 (Francesco Ariis) 3. Re: Wikipedia-l Digest, Vol 138, Issue 3 (Senta Bons)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 06:21:52 -0700 (PDT)From: reguyla(a)gmail.com To: wikipedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org, wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.orgSubject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Wikipedia-l Digest, Vol 138, Issue 3Message-ID: <000f426e.01acb08143988382(a)gmail.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I am going to ask again. Remove me from this fucking email since you dont want editors and I cannot remove myself.Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE device------ Original message------From: Date: Sat, May 21, 2016 8:01 AMTo: wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org;Subject:Wikipedia-l Digest, Vol 138, Issue 3Send Wikipedia-l mailing list submissions to wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.orgTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-lor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikipedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.orgYou can reach the person managing the list at wikipedia-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.orgWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of Wikipedia-l digest..."Today's Topics: 1. Fw: you've got to see that (alex.here@gmx.net)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 04:20:04 +0300From: To: "Wikipedia-l" , "Wikipedia-l" , "Wikivoyage Mailing List" , "Wilhelm Blare" , "Willi Oliver" Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Fw: you've got to see thatMessage-ID: <000091b38026$78240de6$976e7dbf$(a)gmx.net>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"Hi, You're not gonna believe what I've read yesterday, you've got to read it yourself at Sincerely, alex.here(a)gmx.net------------------------------Subject: Digest Footer_______________________________________________Wikipedia-l mailing listWikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l------------------------------End of Wikipedia-l Digest, Vol 138, Issue 3*******************************************------------------------------Message: 2Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 15:33:18 +0200From: Francesco Ariis To: "reguyla(a)gmail.com" Cc: wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.orgSubject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Wikipedia-l Digest, Vol 138, Issue 3Message-ID: <20160521133318.GA15329(a)casa.casa>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-asciiAs I already told you in private, go here https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-lscroll down, enter email address, click 'unsubscribe or edit options'and follow the instructions.Report back if you encounter problemsOn Sat, May 21, 2016 at 06:21:52AM -0700, reguyla(a)gmail.com wrote:> > > > > > > I am going to ask again. Remove me from this fucking email since you dont want editors and I cannot remove myself.> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE device> > > > ------ Original message------From: Date: Sat, May 21, 2016 8:01 AMTo: wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org;Subject:Wikipedia-l Digest, Vol 138, Issue 3> Send Wikipedia-l mailing list submissions to wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.orgTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-lor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikipedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.orgYou can reach the person managing the list at wikipedia-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.orgWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of Wikipedia-l digest..."Today's Topics: 1. Fw: you've got to see that (alex.here@gmx.net)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 04:20:04 +0300From: To: "Wikipedia-l" , "Wikipedia-l" , "Wikivoyage Mailing List" , "Wilhelm Blare" , "Willi Oliver" Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Fw: you've got to see thatMessage-ID: <000091b38026$78240de6$976e7dbf$(a)gmx.net>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"Hi, You're not gonna believe what I've read yesterday, you've got to read it yourself at Sincerely, alex.here(a)gmx.net------------------------------Subject: Digest Footer_______________________________________________Wikipedia-l mailing listWikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l------------------------------End of Wikipedia-l Digest, Vol 138, Issue 3*******************************************> > _______________________________________________> Wikipedia-l mailing list> Wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l-------------------…: 3Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 16:53:36 +0000From: Senta Bons To: Wikipedia mailing list , "reguyla(a)gmail.com" Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Wikipedia-l Digest, Vol 138, Issue 3Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8Calm down sir.On Sat, May 21, 2016, 8:37 AM Francesco Ariis wrote:> As I already told you in private, go here>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l>> scroll down, enter email address, click 'unsubscribe or edit options'> and follow the instructions.>> Report back if you encounter problems>> On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 06:21:52AM -0700, reguyla(a)gmail.com wrote:> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I am going to ask again. Remove me from this fucking email since you> dont want editors and I cannot remove myself.> > Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE device> >> >> >> > ------ Original message------From: Date: Sat, May 21, 2016 8:01 AMTo:> wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org;Subject:Wikipedia-l Digest, Vol 138,> Issue 3> > Send Wikipedia-l mailing list submissions to> wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.orgTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World> Wide Web, visit> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-lor, via email,> send a message with subject or body 'help' to> wikipedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.orgYou can reach the person managing> the list at wikipedia-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.orgWhen replying, please> edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of> Wikipedia-l digest..."Today's Topics: 1. Fw: you've got to see that (> alex.here@gmx.net)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message:> 1Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 04:20:04 +0300From: To: "Wikipedia-l" ,> "Wikipedia-l" , "Wikivoyage Mailing List" , "Wilhelm Blare" ,> "Willi Oliver" Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Fw: you've got to see thatMessage-ID:> <000091b38026$78240de6$976e7dbf$(a)gmx.net>Content-Type: text/plain;> charset="us-ascii"Hi, You're not gonna believe what I've read yesterday,> you've got to read it yourself at Sincerely,> alex.here(a)gmx.net------------------------------Subject: Digest> Footer_______________________________________________Wikipedia-l mailing> listWikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://> lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l---------------------------…> of Wikipedia-l Digest, Vol 138, Issue> 3*******************************************> >> > _______________________________________________> > Wikipedia-l mailing list> > Wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l>> _______________________________________________> Wikipedia-l mailing list> Wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l>------------------------------Subject: Digest Footer_______________________________________________Wikipedia-l mailing listWikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l------------------------------End of Wikipedia-l Digest, Vol 138, Issue 4*******************************************

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Re: [Wikipedia-l] Wikipedia-l Digest, Vol 138, Issue 3
by reguyla＠gmail.com 21 May '16

21 May '16

I am going to ask again. Remove me from this fucking email since you dont want editors and I cannot remove myself. Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE device ------ Original message------From: Date: Sat, May 21, 2016 8:01 AMTo: wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org;Subject:Wikipedia-l Digest, Vol 138, Issue 3 Send Wikipedia-l mailing list submissions to wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.orgTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-lor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikipedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.orgYou can reach the person managing the list at wikipedia-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.orgWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of Wikipedia-l digest..."Today's Topics: 1. Fw: you've got to see that (alex.here@gmx.net)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 04:20:04 +0300From: To: "Wikipedia-l" , "Wikipedia-l" , "Wikivoyage Mailing List" , "Wilhelm Blare" , "Willi Oliver" Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Fw: you've got to see thatMessage-ID: <000091b38026$78240de6$976e7dbf$(a)gmx.net>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"Hi, You're not gonna believe what I've read yesterday, you've got to read it yourself at Sincerely, alex.here(a)gmx.net------------------------------Subject: Digest Footer_______________________________________________Wikipedia-l mailing listWikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l------------------------------End of Wikipedia-l Digest, Vol 138, Issue 3*******************************************

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Fw: you've got to see that
by alex.here＠gmx.net 21 May '16

21 May '16

Hi, You're not gonna believe what I've read yesterday, you've got to read it yourself at <http://truvithomu.wacktrailers.com/lnyudf?y> Sincerely, alex.here(a)gmx.net

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Re: [Wikipedia-l] How might interactive maps be used on Wikipedia?
by Chris Koerner 16 May '16

16 May '16

James, ------------------------------ >Will their still be a way to get a wide choice of competing commercial map services from geographical coordinates? As you can via location templates (Template:Geobox cool) and Geohack? I don't believe there are any plans to change things there. >What happens when you try to print an interactive map? It prints the map! :) Which I think is a good thing. What do you think? >Do we think that the Foundation can offer solutions for maps accessible to the visually impaired at least as good as those of commercial map services? Good question. Can you tell me more about your concerns here? We should learn from other services and make sure we bring these lessons back to our own engineers. -- Yours, Chris Koerner Community Liaison - Discovery Wikimedia Foundation

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Re: [Wikipedia-l] How might interactive maps be used on Wikipedia?
by Chris Koerner 16 May '16

16 May '16

Elias, good feedback on loading on mobile and scrolling. Perhaps this is where loading a static image of the map prior to any interaction would prove beneficial. When we are ready to make this available on Wikipedia we'll have a static image of the map render first. Then if a visitor interacts the interactive map will appear. I think this will alleviate some of your concerns. -- Yours, Chris Koerner Community Liaison - Discovery Wikimedia Foundation

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How might interactive maps be used on Wikipedia?
by Chris Koerner 03 May '16

03 May '16

Hello, The Maps team at the Wikimedia Foundation is getting closer to make it possible to add interactive maps <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Maps> to Wikipedia. If you've ever used services like Google Maps or Mapquest you may be familiar with interactive maps. We’d like to invite editors to have a conversation on how these maps might be used within articles. We've put together information on how these maps and their style works from a technical perspective <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Maps/Conversation_about_interactive_map_use> – where the data comes from, how maps are styled, how to add an interactive map, and a few example use cases. In particular we would like to focus the discussion around three key questions (open discussion outside these questions is welcome too). * What types of articles would use interactive maps? * How do these articles differ in their requirements? * Are there any classes of articles whose map styling requirement is fundamentally in conflict with other article classes, thus requiring multiple styles? If you are interested, please visit https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Maps/Conversation_about_interactive_map_use to learn more and get involved. -- Yours, Chris Koerner Community Liaison - Discovery Wikimedia Foundation

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