Wikipedia-l July 2008

wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org

33 participants
14 discussions

Re: [Wikipedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Implementing the Babel extension
by Casey Brown 02 Jul '08

02 Jul '08

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 2:36 AM, Niklas Laxström <niklas.laxstrom(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 02/07/2008, Casey Brown <cbrown1023.ml(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> We try to use very few with our system on Meta-Wiki. >> <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:User_language> > > It is still using one per language, which means hundreds of them. Now, > which is easier: copying hundreds of templates periodically, or > installing an extension that can be updated the normal way. Especially > for wikies outside of WMF which do not use many bots, if any. You still aren't understanding me... I'm *love* the idea of an extension to do this, I would rather we install it/one with the best features first (especially if it's Wikimedia-wide). > >> >> One of my main problems with the babel extension is that I don't think >> it gets rid of the *huge* number of categories that need to be created >> (otherwise you have ugly redlinks). > > There is already a switch to have less categories, requested by me for > example. What comes to creating the category pages... this is the > first time I see anyone bringing it up. $wgBabelUseMainCategories A boolean (true or false) indicating whether main categories featuring all users who specify a level for that language should be added to a xx category; defaults to true. How are they added to the category? Ordered by ability, then alphabetically... or just alphabetically? > >> The system on Meta-Wiki greatly >> reduces the number of categories, but I've been told that the >> extension's developer was completely against any changes to the >> extension (I didn't hear it directly from him). > > It looks like you are spreading FUD about the extension AND the > developer without checkking the facts first. I would be offended if I > were the developer in question. > > -- > Niklas Laxström > Please check *your* fact first. :-) I am *for* the extension, I just wish it were tweaked to be more efficient. I'm surprised no one is yelling "enwiki-centric" because the levels were in-fact based off of enwiki... Furthermore, I put the information in parenthesis *so* he wouldn't be offended, I have no reason to believe that what I told was incorrect considering I heard it from a pretty reputable source. -- Casey Brown Cbrown1023 --- Note: This e-mail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails sent to this address will probably get lost.

1 0

Implementing the Babel extension
by Gerard Meijssen 02 Jul '08

02 Jul '08

Hoi. The Babel templates are widely used on the Wikimedia Foundation's wikis. Implementing them is a lot of work; you need more then 1000 templates just to cover the languages that the Wikimedia Foundation supports in its projects. Several Wikis have templates to support additional languages. For the bigger projects this is no longer an issue as the templates have already been created, but for many of the smaller projects getting the Babel information implemented is a lot of work. It would be great if the time could be saved to do something that is really useful like writing articles. At Betawiki we have been working hard to create a Babel extension. The great news of an extension is, that there is no need to do anything but implement the extension. We currently think that the software is at a state where we would like to invite the last comments leading to the implementation on all the WMF wikis. Thanks, Gerard

4 5

New static HTML dumps available
by Tim Starling 02 Jul '08

02 Jul '08

New static HTML dumps of all Wikipedia editions are now available: http://static.wikipedia.org/ Altogether, the dumps are 650GB uncompressed, 40GB compressed. I think a reasonable next step for this project would be to write filter scripts that take a compressed dump, reduce the article count in some way, and then recompress it, possibly in a different format. For instance, we could have a "most popular 4GB" of the English Wikipedia, based on page view statistics, recompressed as an SQLite database. -- Tim Starling

1 0

Re: [Wikipedia-l] [Foundation-l] Implementing the Babel extension
by Gerard Meijssen 01 Jul '08

01 Jul '08

Hoi, Like any extension, the Babel extension has its documentation on the Mediawiki.org website :) The extension is in use on Betawiki itself, yes we eat our own dogfood :) We are happy with its functionality, it is configurable.. As to comments or discussion, there is already a page on Meta.. there has also been a lot of discussion so far has been largely on IRC. Thanks, GerardM http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Babel http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Babel_extension On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:38 PM, effe iets anders <effeietsanders(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Gerard, > > thanks for asking for comments. Where can we find the > proposal/explanation/code and where to put those comments? :) > > BR, Lodewijk > > 2008/7/1 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>: > > Hoi. > > The Babel templates are widely used on the Wikimedia Foundation's wikis. > > Implementing them is a lot of work; you need more then 1000 templates > just > > to cover the languages that the Wikimedia Foundation supports in its > > projects. Several Wikis have templates to support additional languages. > For > > the bigger projects this is no longer an issue as the templates have > already > > been created, but for many of the smaller projects getting the Babel > > information implemented is a lot of work. It would be great if the time > > could be saved to do something that is really useful like writing > articles. > > > > At Betawiki we have been working hard to create a Babel extension. The > great > > news of an extension is, that there is no need to do anything but > implement > > the extension. We currently think that the software is at a state where > we > > would like to invite the last comments leading to the implementation on > all > > the WMF wikis. > > > > Thanks, > > Gerard > > _______________________________________________ > > foundation-l mailing list > > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >

1 0

2024

2023

2022

2021

2020

2019

2018

2017

2016

2015

2014

2013

2012

2011

2010

2009

2008

2007

2006

2005

2004

2003

2002

2001

Wikipedia-l July 2008