Wikipedia-l December 2008

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Re: [Wikipedia-l] UK Censorship
by DESLIPPE, MICHAEL CIV DCMA CIV DFAS 10 Dec '08

10 Dec '08

For the purpose of this argument, there is not a difference. The soverign can choose when and how its will is exercised without ever implying acceptance. There are cases in contract law and civil law where that may by true, but it is never true in criminal law. ---Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: wikipedia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org <wikipedia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> To: wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Tue Dec 09 12:17:42 2008 Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] UK Censorship 2008/12/9 DESLIPPE, MICHAEL CIV DCMA CIV DFAS <MICHAEL.DESLIPPE(a)dfas.mil>: > Have you ever exceeded the speed limit in your automobile and not been charged? Does that mean it's OK? There is a difference between not being caught and the police knowing something is going on and choosing not to do anything about it. _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l

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EFF post regarding the censorship
by Judson Dunn 09 Dec '08

09 Dec '08

Nice quote by the EFF: "...the community of Wikipedia editors is if anything the more legitimate, reliable and grown-up adjudicator of which images are appropriate subject matter for an encyclopedia. And the block on the editing of Wikipedia by a large portion of the English population just highlights the dangers of deleterious unintended consequences once we travel down the low road of Internet censorship." http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2008/12/internet-censors-must-be-accountable-t… Judson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cohesion

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Re: [Wikipedia-l] UK Censorship
by DESLIPPE, MICHAEL CIV DCMA CIV DFAS 09 Dec '08

09 Dec '08

Have you ever exceeded the speed limit in your automobile and not been charged? Does that mean it's OK? ---Mike ------Original Message------ From: David Gerard To: wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org ReplyTo: wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Dec 9, 2008 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] UK Censorship 2008/12/9 Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com>: > 2008/12/9 Anthony <wikimail(a)inbox.org>: >> Furthermore, I >> don't see how you can state unequivocally that "no-one has ever been charged >> with any offence regarding this image". The image clearly is illegal in >> certain middle-eastern countries, isn't it? > I'll concede that point and withdraw the overly generalised remark. > No-one has been charged in either the US or the UK, which are the two > jurisdictions relevant to this discussion. There are no known reports of such. If Anthony believes there are, perhaps he should cite them. - d. _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l

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THANDTHANKS
by Jocla 09 Dec '08

09 Dec '08

THANKS MY FRIENDS FOR YOUR BULLETINS . En 2009 se conmemora mundialmente el NACIMIENTO DE LUIS BRAILLE. HONREMOS CON FE, ENTUSIASMO , AMOR Y GRATITUD AL CIEGO MÁS GENIAL DE TODOS LOS TIEMPOS. ÉL SACÓ A SUS HERMANOS DE INFORTUNIO DE LA PREHISTORIA, IDEANDO EL MARAVILLOSO CÓDIGO DE LOS SEIS PUNTOSque significaron cultura, aprendizaje , trabajo y redención para una minoría excluida del saber y del progreso . Gracias a él unas manos pueden leer lo que otras escriben.benditas sean su obra y su < < memoria!

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Re: [Wikipedia-l] UK censorship
by techman224 07 Dec '08

07 Dec '08

On 7-Dec-08, at 1:50 PM, Andrew Gray wrote: > 2008/12/7 techman224 <techman224(a)yahoo.ca>: > >> http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/British_ISPs_restrict_access_to_Wikipedia_amid_… >> >> "Wikinews has also learned that some ISPs have blocked customers from >> accessing some Wikimedia websites including the free, online >> encyclopedia, >> Wikipedia, altogether." >> >> Yes there is. > > I note that there's no corroboration provided for this, and no > expansion of the remarks. > > I suspect that this is related to what Gregory mentions below - the > weird stuff they're doing with traffic seems to be leading to a high > failure rate for pageviews, but this is a mark of ineptitude not of > intent. > > -- > - Andrew Gray > andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk Wikinews has been talking about it, it might only be a few users in the UK and not everyone. http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Talk:British_ISPs_restrict_access_to_Wikipedia_… Techman224

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UK censorship
by techman224 07 Dec '08

07 Dec '08

It's too bad the UK is censoring Wikipedia. I'm just shocked to see an English Country that's fully developed to censor Wikipedia. It is like the "China" problem turing into the "UK" problem. I hope that the UK would stop this so everyone can go on with their lives on wikipedia. Techman224

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