I am writing to ask about promoting (and to promote) the 'MetaBase'
project http://BioDatabase.Org - a MediaWiki run "database of biological
databases". This is a 'non-foundation' project run under the 'BioWiki'
collection of BioPedias - http://BiO.CC
I am not sure if this is the correct list to contact (and apologies if
it isn't), but I am interested in information regarding the promotion
of MediaWiki based projects. Like any user contributed resource, the
site needs contributors to be worth anything. I would like to find out
about where and how to try to attract users, and to ask members of
this list if they are interested in looking at this project.
I will be promoting the project to biologists via the 'bioinformatics
bulletin board' run at http://Bioinformatics.Org but the project
really needs people who know MediaWiki inside out, have experience
with working on large community projects, and who are willing to help
out with this kind of work.
Any suggestions on how to better promote this project are very welcome!
The Turkish Wikipedia has no article on Armenian Genocide.
However, unlike all the other 38 Wikipedias which have articles
on the "Armenian Genocide", it has an article on "Claims of
an Armenian Genocide".
I'm sure that if German Wikipedia had "Holocaust" redirect to
"Claims of a Holocaust", there'd be an outcry, but why doesn't the
same thing happen about this article on Turkish Wikipedia?
Actually, this is incorrect and anachronistic. Despite Werfel's "Musa Dagh"
or the contemporary report by US Ambassador Morgenthau about massacres, the
events in Turkey were never described specifically as "genocide" until after
World War II. In fact, the term "genocide" was only coined in 1943 (by Rafael
Lemkin) and only gained popular currency during the Nuremberg Trials. Of
course, this is no attempt to denigrate the tragedy of the Armenian people, but
it was not described as genocide at the time, simply because the term did not
As for being the earliest instance of genocide in the 20th century, that is
also incorrect. That title should probably go to the massacre of the Herero
and Nama in German Southwest Africa in 1904. Some 50-90 percent of the
population was killed. And why is the 20th century a starting point? If we are going
to use the term in its broader sense, it could probably be applied to the
massacre of the Albigensians in 1209 (“Kill them all. God will recognise His
own."), or the 1763 killing of Native Americans by Jeffrey Amherst by giving
them gifts of blankets infected with smallpox (see [[Pontiac's Rebellion]] for
The point is that "genocide" is a very loaded term. Use it carefully.
In a message dated 7/14/2007 9:06:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
On 7/14/07, Ronald Chmara <ron(a)opus1.com> wrote:
> On Jul 13, 2007, at 8:15 PM, Steven Walling wrote:
> > Actually Bop, I'm not sure if all wiki articles reflect this, but the
> > Armenian Genocide was aboslutely the first event described as a
> > genocide.
> 
i know the several emmy awards winning BBC documentary WORLD WAR I produced
by carl byker claims it in exactly these words.
it has been published on dvd in 2006
*edito ergo sum*
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I've noticed a few times over the past weeks that a talk page of a
deleted page has also been deleted, for no special reason.
This includes pages with an edit history that were prodded or
speedied, or ones that were useful and informative but not notable, or
ones that were the subject of a contentious AfD.
These discussions about an article -- including about its deletion and
notability -- should be preserved just as deletion discussions are.
They will be useful if the article returns later, if others try to
determine whether it should have been deleted, and are a record of
discussions about knowledge by people who cared about the topic.
Where should they be preserved? Right now deletion guidelines on
en:wp allow for *speedy deletion* of any talk page that has no article
page, unless "It contains deletion discussion that is not logged
elsewhere"... I'm not sure where that guideline came from, since
there are certainly pages that have gone through a "Delete and rewrite
from scratch" where the intent is for an article to be written and the
talk page [pre-deletion, related to article content, standards of
research, interesting sources, and the like] is a part of that. If
the original talk page isn't the right place to keep this non-deletion
information, where should it go?
The official policy about starting new Wikipedias is here:
I don't know much about your language so I don't know if it has any chance
of being granted a separate wiki, but in any case the first steps would be
to read the proposal policy, find a bunch of Valencian speakers who are
willing to work with you on the project and try to fulfill the requirements
Best of luck.
On 05/07/07, wikipedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org <
> Hi all there,
> I want to create a new version of Wikipedia in my mother language,
> Valencian, but I don't know how to do it. I've searched for my language
> and I haven't found it. Anybody can help me? I've a lot of friends
> anxious for writing in our language.
> Thank you very much and sorry about my english......
> Best regards,