Wikipedia-l February 2007

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Check out the Wikipedia Documentary!!
by WikiDoc 26 Feb '07

26 Feb '07

Doc fans! The makers of "24 hours on craigslist" have a new project: "Truth in Numbers: The Wikipedia Story", a documentary chronicling the rise and controversy behind the world's most popular encyclopedia. While producer Michael Ferris Gibson ('24 hours on craigslist') and Oscar-nominated filmmaker Sam Green ('The Weather Underground') helm the production from San Francisco, you can check out the crew's continuing video podcasts from the road and other information about the film here: www.wikidocumentary.org As Wikipedia is a global phenomenon-- recently becoming one of the top ten websites in the world-- director Nic Hill ('Piece by Piece') is currently traveling the planet with the crew of Underdog Productions, interviewing Wikipedians and experts on free digital knowledge. If you know any wikiheads he should interview give him a hollar at nic(a)underdogproductions.com Best of all, the film's website is actually itself a wiki for the production (currently hosted at Wikia and maintained by the good folks at Object Adjective); feel free to contribute ideas, interviewee suggestions, locations, even your own audio and video to the production! In the spirit of free information, this is a non-profit project; so take comfort in knowing that your contributions will go the worthy cause of exploring one of the most important phenomena of our time! -WikiDoc

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nl.wikipedia introduces wikipedia:Wikicity
by Walter van Kalken 25 Feb '07

25 Feb '07

<sarcastic mode on> http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikistad Because of 2nd life's big succes the Dutch wikipedia brings to you Wikicity. A place where you can buy your wikihouse, designed by wikiarchitects build with wikimoney, by wikiconstructors, build with wikisand on the foundations costs. It is a place ruled by christians as a mosque was immediately wikistroyed after it was erected before the muezzin could say its wikiprayers. Also prominent wikidweller Osama Wiki Laden's wikihouse was immediately evicted by the wikipubers ruling wikicity. Next they will start laying wikirails for the Wikitrams and Wikitrains and muliple cities are planned. Also wikivillages and wikivilla's are planned and wikicanals and wikistreams will be dug. This will all be done from the real money paid by our real donators who expect an effort to build a real encyclopedia. Not a place where we try to copy 2nd life or any other site with as a purpose building a community. A bit of fun is fine. But this proposal makes fun the aim! Waerth

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Intellectuals relationship visualization
by Parker Conrad 22 Feb '07

22 Feb '07

Hi -- someone posted a link to a neat tool a while back, and I'm trying to track it down again. It was a webapp that used wikipedia to visualize influence relationships between different intellectuals -- so you could, for example, trace the paths of influence from Plato to Kant. Is there anyone who could email with the link to this application? Thanks, /prc

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Re: [Wikipedia-l] [Foundation-l] How to edit wikipedia when stupid mods block all Thai ip addresses
by Walter van Kalken 19 Feb '07

19 Feb '07

The issue has been raised over 10 times and everytime it is happening again. I want someone to toss some heads finally ot I will want all my 1000 + articles I wrote deleted as I cannot edit them anymore. Waerth >The Foundation is deliberately restrained from managing the community >and content of Wikimedia projects. This separation exists for many >reasons. You should raise this issue with the community of the Dutch >Wikipedia. > >Walter van Kalken wrote: > > >>I am getting extremely impatient with RonaldB he seems to have a fetish >>for blocking Thai IP addresses on the Dutch wikipedia and he doesn't >>answerd emails send to him. I cannot even edit when I am logged in, not >>from a friends computer which uses a different provider. Is it the >>wikimedia foundations goal to block me?? >> >>The last two weeks I have found the IP adresses of my provider >>constantly blocked, pre-emptively by RonaldB without any sign of >>vandalism by those IP adresses. Wikipedia can be editted by anyone? Not >>by me! >> >>Waerth >> >>_______________________________________________ >>foundation-l mailing list >>foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >foundation-l mailing list >foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > >

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all of my edits are copyrightviolations
by Walter van Kalken 18 Feb '07

18 Feb '07

All of my edits are a copyrightviolation of books in my posession. All texts were literally copied and because of that all of my edits on wikipedia and pictures I added should be removed immediately as they are in violation of the GFDL. Also all of my sources seem to be non reputable and non trustworthy so many falsehoods consist in these edits. Since I am blocked from editting the mistakes myself the foundation should do better and delete all of my edits. Waerth/Walter

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Re: [Wikipedia-l] [Foundation-l] One week later and I am still blocked, nobody is doing a fucking thing
by Walter van Kalken 18 Feb '07

18 Feb '07

>>Fuck everyone with their stupid advices about being nice. I am leaving. >> >>Fuck the board for putting this stupid block all proxies in effect and >>refusing to do anything. >> >> > >You're welcome. > > > I am happy to see that as the chairwoman of the foundation you take your responsibility for foundationpolicies which keep editors blocked so seriously. I had expected better from you. Wikipedia:Anyone can edit .......yes as long as you do not life outside of the western countries in a country where ISP's force you into proxies. And the foundation in it's arrogance doesn't give rats ass. Oh how noble. What is worse me ranting or the foundation not caring? Waerth

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precisions about the recent WMF "fair use" decision
by David Monniaux 15 Feb '07

15 Feb '07

Kat Walsh said: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Import… " There are some works, primarily historically important photographs and significant modern artworks, that we can not realistically expect to be released under a free content license, but that are hard to discuss in an educational context without including the media itself. " I do agree that there are various kinds of important situations that, in order to be properly discussed in an educational fashion, need a photograph (or at least, omitting one reduces significantly the interest of the article). To me, these include, among others: * recent works of art * military operations and hardware * spacecraft (this list is non exhaustive, I'm just taking examples). In all the cases in the above list, we can include written descriptions (this is what people used to do before it was easy to reprint pictures). However, having images is profitable. Also, in all those cases, there is little hope that we should get "free" photographs, simply because of we will not obtain an authorization from the artist or because our photographers will not be allowed to photograph inside the museum, or inside a war theater, or a spacecraft. The usual answer (at least on these mailing-list) on such cases is that we should delete the pictures, and it's the fault of the artist or the organizations that could have authorized some free pictures if we don't have pictures in the article about their activities. In a sense, that makes sense: we're effectively devoting some free space to describe what they do, so they should be graceful and give us a photograph. Now, it seems (but I may be mistaken, and this is why I'm asking for precisions) that we may carve an exemption for "significant modern artworks". I suspect that the adjective "significant" was added so as to exclude all the album covers and other "pop culture" artwork, and that what is meant is that we should have, say, photographs of Picasso's Guernica and similar works. To me, this is troubling. An article discussing a painting on Wikipedia is, in effect, free advertisement for a number of people: * the museum owning the painting, because it attracts visitors * the artist's family, in countries with a _droit de suite_ (this is a clause in EU law that says that under some circumstances and within a limited period of time, the artist or its heirs obtain a little share of the resale price of the works of the artist). These people can authorize free pictures. Thus, I'm puzzled: it seems that we're doing a favor to museums and the heirs of various "modern artists", and supporting the speculation that declares that certain works are more "significant" than others, without any support from the people whose work we promote. As an example, I remember processing some emails on behalf of the Foundation: some artist wanted us to carry pictures of his work, but at the same time didn't want to give a free license. In short, he wanted us to give them free promotion without giving something back. (I'm unsure whether this artist would be considered "significant", but he apparently considered himself to be so.) I would thus be glad if we could have some clarification about the extent of this exemption for fair use, and why we seem to give 'carte blanche' for "significant modern art".

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Re: [Wikipedia-l] How to edit wikipedia when stupid mods block all Thai ip addresses
by Michael Snow 14 Feb '07

14 Feb '07

Walter van Kalken wrote: > Read Thai fora and websites over Thailand. It will not work. providers > do not care as there are just a few foreigners suffering from this. > Most Thais only visit Thai websites. The Thai Wikipedia has just over 19,000 articles, and according to Alexa, wikipedia.org is the 15th-most-popular website in Thailand. Even with the standard caveats about Alexa data, that can't all be Thai expatriates elsewhere and only foreigners in Thailand. --Michael Snow

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How to edit wikipedia when stupid mods block all Thai ip addresses
by Walter van Kalken 13 Feb '07

13 Feb '07

I am getting extremely impatient with RonaldB he seems to have a fetish for blocking Thai IP addresses on the Dutch wikipedia and he doesn't answerd emails send to him. I cannot even edit when I am logged in, not from a friends computer which uses a different provider. Is it the wikimedia foundations goal to block me?? The last two weeks I have found the IP adresses of my provider constantly blocked, pre-emptively by RonaldB without any sign of vandalism by those IP adresses. Wikipedia can be editted by anyone? Not by me! Waerth

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es.wikipedia reaches 200.000 (new milestone)
by Platonides 10 Feb '07

10 Feb '07

es.wikipedia has reached at 22:19:58 10/02/2007 200.000 articles.

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