Hi,
tomorrow muslims celebrate the 'id-l-kabir.
Is in wikipedia a page similar to
http://it.wiktionary.org/wiki/Buon_Natale_e_felice_Anno_Nuovo
where I can find wishes in the languages of wikipedia?
Thanks a lot... and Happy Eid ul Kabir to muslims.
Nino
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Hello,
Not sure exactly where to write about this.
I may have not understood something very well, if not, please explain to me.
When someone upload an image to wikicommons and place it under gfdl license, I would tend to say that re-using this image would have to follow gfdl license. We know that we do not respect well gfdl license for text, since it is very difficult to follow all authors, but for an image, it should not be a lot of problem to respect it, since there is only one author, the one who took the picture.
So, normally, to follow gfdl license, when we use the image we should 1) mention the gfdl and 2) mention the author, no ? So that anyone reusing the image would be able to follow the gfdl in turn.
What bugs me is that if I upload a picture to say the french wikipedia, it is written in the image comment that I took the picture, so I am granted the authorship of my work, and anyone using the image could either mention wikipedia or myself. But at least, he has the information available. Besides, the reader can see a description of the image.
When I upload an image on wikicommons, I can write this information over there, but this information is no more directly available to the guy using the information.
The author name is not mentionned, nor is the description. On some wikipedias, there is a sort of mention toward the description page, but to be fair, the link is not frankly visible.
Look on the english wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:ThoraThora1.JPG
Practically, if a reader comes around and want to use the picture, I am ready to say that in at least 50% of the case, either he will not see the link, or he will not care and just take the picture.
I would be glad that template makes it more obvious where the author and the description of the image is.
In other less completed wikipedias, there is no template at all. So, in effect, my authorship is gone and I cannot even complain to the guy using the picture, since he just has no idea who the author is.
http://ht.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hoggar5.jpg
I took that picture and in this case, display of the picture is to my opinion a sort of "violation" of the contract between wikipedias and its authors. Would it be possible that a standard template is set, and mandatory for any picture resources used from commons, so that even if this template is not locally translated, a basic template redirects to the proper LICENSE TERMS and information ?
Finally, I think it a bit embarassing that when I upload to commons, I have no more choice of languages. Perhaps I did not find it yet :-) Is there a way to make a comment both in french and english ? Would not it be nice that the software recognise this, and displays the french comment on the french speaking projects, while it would display the english comment by default on all other projects ?
I think this is important. I was beginning to upload many pictures on wikicommons to share them. Still, I am a bit bugged to discover that doing so sorta ripped informations which should be mandatory, imho, below the image itself.
What is people opinion on this ?
Anthere
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Hi
I'm sure I'm not the only one complaining about this, but what is actually
wrong with Wikipedia at the moment ? On the english one, you can hardly edit
at all, on the german, french and luxembourgish wikis, edits work fine at
some times of the day whereas sometimes nothing seems to work. And for the
times you actually CAN edit a page, it takes about 5-10 min until the page
is saved. Now this can't be normal and we, on the lb wiki were wondering if
there's some sort of explanation to this problem.
thx :-)
Caroline aka Briséis - lb.
I remember that the source for www.wikipedia.or is on meta somewhere, but
I didn't bookmark it and Google fails. Can someone point me to the page?
Alfio
There is a new initiative regarding software patents with the name "Thank you,
Poland!" at http://www.thankpoland.info . There are banners you can use at
http://www.thankpoland.info/banners.html . RMS' FSF/GNU already supports the
initiative by displaying a banner at http://www.gnu.org . My site also
supports "Thank you, Poland!". I suggest that you should also do that, by
placing their banner on your main page.
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NSK
http://portal.wikinerds.org
Just letting people know as soon as I noticed it,
Somebody has conducted large-scale vandalism on fj.wikipedia using an IP.
See for example http://fj.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threat (may not be
suitable for work or school).
Mark
Hello there (to David Chang and other proponents speaking Cantonese mostly),
After the détente of these days (the main focus has seemed to be drawn
to the main page of Wikipedia...) --- and I have read most of the
discussions exchanged here --- I wonder if you guys are considering how
to build up this Cantonese version. Do you have some clear plans of
which pages to be written in the first place, and how many committed
contributors are there going to be in the beginning? I'm asking this
just being conserning, because although there has been numerous messages
for or against its establishment, I myself would quite support it. I
think that except discussing about "yes, we need it" or "no, it's
abundant", maybe some concrete plan is desirable? How are you going to
write Cantonese, by which romanization program(s); autoconversion
mechanism needed or not; totally with hanzi or a mix-up with roman
letters? I'm fond of encouraging producing texts of knowledge in
"dialects" (to me, they're really languages unintelligeable with others
just as fit as Catalàn is), and hoping that maybe following Cantonese
version, there would be a Hakka version (which is spoken by 12% of the
population, but quite needs promoting in Taiwan). So I care much about
how your issue is ongoing here:)
P. S. This is my first time using this mailing list system, and any
toleration of my unintended mistakes is pleaded.
Sincerely,
Hrodeberht von MilchFlasche.
OK, I went ahead and worked some more on this (no new images to show
off, yet). But, more info and the complete data set of Bavaria at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Geo
to give you an idea of the internal workings. I'm actually using
(media)wiki syntax to denote the data, so it stays humanly readable.
And, I now read my data from my local wiki (through URL, action=raw).
Generating the half-German map takes about 2 seconds.
Tomorrow, I need to work on the parameters to call the thing. As you can
see, I can already state to draw Hamburg in red. But, I want to see the
surrounding parts of Europe in one color, Germany in another, and Berlin
in yet another one. And to draw an extra border around Germany as a
whole. This will prove tricky.
Also, for drawing parts of Europe, I need more data. And a city drawing
routine. and some rivers and lakes. And the ocean. Geez, why do I always
get myself into such a mess ;-)
Magnus
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Wikipedia went live four years ago today, on January 15, 2001.
Amazingly, this crazy project we've gotten ourselves into is still on
the web, not _completely_ filled with Pokémon stubs and crackpot rants,
and even remains free of advertisements, supported by donations and a
lot of hard work.
Presented for your pleasure:
http://nostalgia.wikipedia.org/
This is a dump of the English Wikipedia page database from December 20,
2001 -- the oldest complete copy I was able to find. It's actually
running on the current MediaWiki software, so as a conversion necessity
some pages have been altered to make links work correctly. (Due to
limitations in the original conversion script, this version may
actually contain some data which is missing or corrupted in the main
database history on en.wikipedia.org.)
You can find even older, though more fragmentary, bits of Ancient
Wikipedia using the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine:
http://web.archive.org/web/20010331173908/http://www.wikipedia.com/
Happy Editing, everybody!
- -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
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For those of you interested in automatic map generation for MediaWiki,
check out the very first screenshot of my emerging "geo" software:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Geo
Continue? Or walk away in disgust?
Magnus
