Abe <arafi(a)umich.edu> said:
> How do you create a space where scholars can compete? Since the prizes in
> academia are relevance and prestige, and since relevance/presitge are
> measured by the number of people who are citing your work, Wikipedia could
> allow users to cite scholarly works in articles, and track those
> citations competitively.
You're talking about Open Access journals. A good overview is here:
http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/overview.htm
This is a good directory of Open Access journals:
http://www.doaj.org/
I'm not convinced that Wikimedia stepping into this space is good for either
Wikimedia or academic journals.
~ESP
I would like to start a Wikipedia in Lojban. Attached is the language file,
which hopefully has enough translated to start the site. Please look it over
and let me know if any other strings need to be put into or translated in it.
Language data:
Name: Lojban
Family: Loglanic (constructed logical languages)
Speakers: at least 30, in various parts of the world, including at least 6
Wikipedians
Code: jbo
Two articles on the Lojban Wiki are ready to be copied to the Lojban
Wikipedia:
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=gombesahttp://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=gambire
These are [[coelacanth]] and [[Uncaria]] respectively; the first article in
Lojban needs stuff translated from English, and the second in English needs a
taxobox.
Capitalization should be turned off in the Lojban Wikipedia, since first
letters of words are not normally capitalized in Lojban, as it is in the
Klingon Wikipedia, since 'q' and 'Q' are different letters, and in the Toki
Pona Wikipedia.
phma
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Hi,
I am currently reading the interview with Jimmy
(http://interviews.slashdot.org/interviews/04/07/28/1351230.shtml?tid=146&ti…)
and his nice answers. In particular
"One of the reasons I was excited to be asked by Roblimo to do this interview
is that the slashdot community in particular has been so generous to us in
the past."
is nice and shortly after that follows the "donate money" and "what we use the
money for" links. Following the first link I would like to suggest changing
two things:
* there still is a link to Brion Vibbers notebook fund at the very end of the
page. Don't get me wrong, Brion deserves a lot more money than he probably
gets through donations, but linking to a page which seems to be outdated
doesn't look good to me.
* the fundraising page doesn't contain information how much money we are
aiming for. A potential donator would just see that we have ~20 K$ on our
account and many probably will think "well, they probably have enough money".
Sure, there is some information on the meta page
([[m:What_we_use_the_money_for]]), but the page takes ~10 sec to load, there
is a lot of text and the information what we are aiming for is at the end of
the text.
IMHO it would make sense to add next to the current numbers that we are aiming
for 50 K$ - 100 K$ money which we would like to spend on hardware this year.
best regards,
Marco
I was cleaning up various things in Wiktionary when I ran into the link
to http://en.wiktionary.org/style-new/monobook/main.css . Admittedly I
know nothing about css files but the line near the top "Copyright
Gabriel Wicke" grabbed my attention. There is no mention that it is
being released under any free software licence. It seems to me that
this is something that should be corrected.
Ec
In Berlin, I was chatting with Tim Pritlove about the annual
Choas Communication Congress which is held in Berlin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_Communication_Congress
This event attracts 2,500 and 3,500 participants (according to
Wikipedia) and a central feature is the "hack center" which gives
access to around 600 people for whatever.
Not described in the Wikipedia article, but attested to by Tim
Pritlove, it's a rocking good time.
So, I had this idea for something we could do as a part of a drive
towards 1.0. We could get permission from a library or libraries in
some densely populated centers around the world to gain admission
during a holiday or weekend that they would normally be closed. We'd
set up a wireless broadband network and bring together as many people
as possible to work together day and night in a fun atmosphere to fact
check articles and process them for final publication in a CD-ROM,
with an eye towards print as well of course.
Since we'd be talking about en for this first round, logical cities
for this would be New York and London, with L.A. and Chicago and
Sydney also possible, if there are enough people interested to make
that happen.
We'd strive to have as many people as possible in one location, and to
attract maximum media attention to what we're doing. So the selection
of a location would involve deliberations about keeping the cost low,
both travel costs and hotel costs for participants travelling some
distance.
For example, although this is too soon, the New York Public Library
will be closed September 4 through September 6, for "Labor Day
Weekend". There are many other holidays like that one which would
provide a similar opportunity.
Imagine (go with me on this fantasy here) 1000 people working around
the clock with timeouts just to sleep and eat, for 3 full days, to
fact check, copyedit, and approve as many articles as possible.
--Jimbo
Hi,
For our proposal for the GALILIEO MASTERS competition (see
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GALILEO_Masters_2004 ) wee need some
convincing images. I doubt the jury is familiar with Wikipedia and the
Wiki concept and a good images is always better than tons of text.
Any Idea? I thought of a photo of a subnotebook or PDA showing a
Wikimedia interface and geographical information. Surely you have to
pretend a screenshot of a system we do not already have - it's a
proposal. Maybe two or three images in one are better than a single
screenshot. First somebody with a GPS device is looking for information.
Then he gets a list of articles "You are near ... read the Wikipedia
article" "You are within ..." and buttons like "increase radius", "limit
to categories ..." and/or a small map of the world or a part of it. Then
another screenshot shows how he can directly edit the article. This is
needed for the "Wow! everybody can add information!"-feeling (the Wiki
concept is only familiar to us)!.
We need some cool images untill friday. The creator of the best image
will win a lot of fame ;-)
Greetings,
Jakob
Hi, everyone. I have a suggestion, why don't we change the Wikipedia main
page?
Here is a project prepared by me. Of course I'm not an expert webmaster and
that's why it looks as it does, but I'd like you to take a look at it from a
graphic design point of view. Personally, I think it's OK and much better
than the present main page.
Of course it's in Polish now but I (or somebody else) can easily prepare an
English version and others can make their own language versions.
Greetings
Agni
www.serwis.tarnow.cc/wikip.htm
Some time ago I grabbed LanguagePt.php and translated part of it into Lojban.
This was before templates and categories, so I need to update it. I'd like to
start over with an English template, but LanguageEn.php just has an include
statement, and Language.php says not to use it as a template. What should I
use?
phma
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I've been thinking about it and reading and researching about it and
talking incessantly on IRC about it and writing on the lists about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:David_Gerard/1.0
This sets out a concise action plan for a paper Wikipedia 1.0, letting
the wiki do the work. It sets out milestones and what is needed for
them.
The main prerequisite is a rating system, the consensus for which,
over the past year, seems to have approached: rate article versions on
four or five parameters, with either a yes/no, a scale of 0-4 or a
scale of 0-10.
The key points:
* Let the wiki do the work. Harness dilettantism.
* Every action must benefit the live web version.
Please be merciless.
(btw: should this be discussed on wikien-l or wikipedia-l? I've sent
this to both places.)
- d.
Following in the footsteps of successful European Wikimeetups...
The first organized meeting of Chinese Wikipedians will be happening
in Beijing this weekend, on Sunday. Thanks to User:Mountain for
helping to organize this.
While Chinese details can be found below, with the particulars into
English in case any other English-speaking Wikipedians might be
interested. Check the web site for any last moment changes.
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E8%81%8A%E5%A4%A9#.E5.8C.97.E4.BA.A…
Date: 25 July (Sunday)
Time: 7:00pm
Venue: Room 1364, Science Faculty, Beijing University
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Andrew Lih
andrew.lih(a)gmail.com