Karl Eichwalder:
>I as a regular user feel be punished. Or say it in
>different words: it's a sad story that I cannot help
>fixing bad edits without three extra clicks.
If you want to help fix vandal edits real easy then become a sysop. Our only
real criteria is that a person known enough not to be a vandal and isn't
likely to abuse sysop powers. I hereby nominate you.
But we cannot let any random user have this ability; Vandals /will/ use it to
constantly revert every edit by users that show up in Recent Changes.
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
I love Erik's logo that includes Wikification: [[ O ]]. I must say it's very
symbolic and realistic.
Re: Eric's points
1) Making those words intentionally hard-to-see seems suspicious somehow.
You have no idea how many times I tried to stick my eyeballs in front of the
screens in various WPs just to read them. Of course, all attempts failed.
2) Agreed. It's not representative. To be honest, I have not heard of
Hobbes before I came to WP. Not to undermine his importance, but his
philosophy is not just mentioned and definitely not taught in most Taiwanese
and Canadian schools.
3) Definitely, speaking from a Chinese WPian's point-of-view.
Re: Eric's recommendations
* I oppose alphabet letter used as the logo (OK in subtitle/captions/title,
however). It's too regional.
* Humans are not good, because their physical characteristics are too
obviously identifiable with an ethnicity.
* Non-human creature is good.
* Books are good.
I really would like to see Wikifcation symbols used. Maybe not black beside
yellow, though! ;-)
Menchi Zh-En
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Hi all
has anyone ever considered overlaying Wikipedia with a kind of ontology as offered by e.g. Roget's Thesaurus or, even better: OpenCyc? I personally guess that this would boost Wikipedia's usefulness enormously.
Regards
Hallo
hat schon mal jemand darueber nachgedacht, ob oder wie man Wikipedia nicht mit einer Ontologie, wie sie in Thesauri zu finden ist, oder public domain wie in OpenCyc? Ich vermute, dass der Nutzwert von Wikipedia dadurch einen immensen Schub erfahren wuerde.
Gruessle
kku
Maybe it's just my imagination, but it seems that some of the
traditional encyclopedias are taking notice of Wikipedia. For
example, Encyclopedia.com (which uses the Columbia Concise
Encyclopedia) now has a "Today in History" front page. Births,
deaths and events listed with links to appropriate articles. They
also list "Top Searches", which wasn't there before.
The Encyclopaedia Brittanica has as its HTML title: "the online
encyclopedia you can trust." Is that a reference to that nasty wiki
encyclopedia where anyone can add content?
As Wikipedia becomes more well known in the mainstream, the
established players may stop ignoring us and go on a direct
offensive. That should be interesting.
- Stephen Gilbert
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Since the Chinese Wikipedia began over half a year ago, we have lacked any
sort of administrator. Brion VIBBER has been kindly helping us with
programming problems, but since he can't read Chinese characters, he is
unable to help us do the dirty work of cleaning up after vandalistic acts.
As we currently only have just over 200 articles, there is not much to
vandal on yet, but occasionally, repetitive vandals (mostly Anons, some
registered) grace us with annoying visits. Moreover, 2 or 3 bothersome
nonsensical (purposeful or experimental) "articles" occur daily, usually as
new articles, or worse, as additions or total replacements.
As the number of the articles increase (and it is swiftly), among other
things, more unpleasantness -- some of which we have experienced -- will
surely arrive, unfortunately. We would like to be ready for that approaching
time whose front. Discussions between existing contributors led to the
recommendation of the following five candidates, who, based on their past
actions and communications, are all deemed responsible, objective, and
therefore qualified to be Wikipedia administrators:
* Formulax of Shanghai and Singapore (966 edits since November 2002):
Biographies, philosophy, art history, international relations, etc.
* Lorenzarius of Hong Kong (569 ed. since February 2002): Mainlander
administrations (especially provincial-level), meta-documents, etc.
* Menchi of Canada and Taiwan (472 ed. since February 2002): North American
societies, overseas Chinese, Korean studies, etc.
And two impressively gung ho newbies:
* Samuel of Canton (656 ed. since May 2002): language, education, zoology,
pathology, geography, mathematics, European societies, etc.
* Shizhao of Beijing (831 ed. since May 2002): mineralogy, classical
literature, pre-modern technology, chemistry, etc.
Together, the five above made about 60% of all existing edits on the Chinese
Wikipedia.
The potential administrators represent a variety of interest, and not the
bias of a particular ideology or region or ancestry:
* Two of the above contributors use traditional Chinese, three simplified.
* Two overseas, three "internal".
* Two are raised in Cantonese environment, two Mandarin, one Wu.
* Four are bilingual in English, one Russian. Tertiary languages include
French, Spanish and German.
* Several have been active in the English Wikipedia, such as Menchi, the
63rd most active contributor there.
The last two contributors are admittedly new, but their extensive work
should show their ability and personality.
None of us know each other personally, so these nominations were based
purely on professional understanding. There are additional good writers, but
they have not yet demonstrated an overwhelming enthusiasm or a desire to
maintain the program and protect it from vandal destruction, so they were
not included in the final list above.
We would like to improve this young project and help it grow. In order to do
that, we should be able to serve the cause of Wikipedia easier and faster.
And we believe that administratorship can allow us to achieve that goal.
-- Menchi
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Some time ago it was proposed to develop trees from the Wikipedia Main
Page, so that one could identify categories based on their propinquity
to main page topics. So for instance, [[highway]] which is linked from
[[transport]] would be classified as [[category:transport]] (pages
could of course have multiple categories, with degrees of separation
from the various main page articles noted, some cut off (number of
degrees away > 5 perhaps, would be used). (e.g. [[category:blah,
degrees:2]]
This function would be automated (or semi-automated), which some may
say is not sufficiently wiki; on the other hand, it would allow us to
come up with a first cut classification for 130000 articles, which will
take a bit of time by hand.
I believe this was done for [[philosophy]]. See [[List of philosophical
topics]]
What is the status of [[Wikipedia:Category experiment]]
David Levinson
Ok, I don't understand this one bit. Searching google
for "tamilsex" brings back as #15 result:
Redaktante Tamilsex actress babilona
Priskribu la novan pagxon cxiloke. Resumo: Bonvolu
noti, ke cxiu kontribuajxo al
la Vikipedio estu konsiderata eldonita laux la GNU
Free Documentation License. ...
test-eo.wikipedia.com/wiki/
tamilsex+actress+babilona&action=edit - 6k - Cached -
Similar pages
Ok, now I'm definitely making this page a redirect to
"About this page"... or perhaps we should write an
article in Esperanto about Tamilsex? uhhhh...
Confused,
Chuck
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I, Ilyanep (on wikipedia), would like to requests Sysop privelages.
For many reasons can you trust me to be a sysop.
1. Check my contributions, which you will find to all be positive
2. Check my time here, I've familiarized myself with the wikipedia, and
know this place like the back of my hand
3. You've probably seen me around
So, if you don't like anything about me, then what?