Wikipedia-l March 2003

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Can't log in to Meta
by Richard Grevers 19 Mar '03

19 Mar '03

The Meta-wikipedia says I don't exist, yet my login name is working fine on most pages. (Moderator, please kill the earlier variant of this message that I made from the wrong email address @dramatic.co.nz !) -- Richard Grevers

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Re: [Wikipedia-l] a suggestion
by abhio＠vsnl.net 19 Mar '03

19 Mar '03

Ray Saintonge wrote This sounds like a lot of work! Are you volunteering? :-) Ec Yup, I'm volunteering to help out, actually I'd love to!! But there are a whole lot of things that need to be decided - how do we go about it? what file format do we use to make the e-books, html will not suffice for material that needs to be published? And of course advertising the idea so that others will be interested in contributing. Could the guys running Wiki help out, by starting up such a project under its "sister projects". Please respond back if you've got more ideas.

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Meta Wikipedia says I don't exist!
by Richard Grevers 19 Mar '03

19 Mar '03

Having gone (too late) to the voting page I find that I can't log in. It works okay on the main page (apart from the usual problem of not being persistent enough). -- Richard Grevers Christchurch, NZ.

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RE: Article count: Vote result
by Daniel Mayer 19 Mar '03

19 Mar '03

>I endorse this result. > >--Jimbo Even though every one of my top choices lost I endorse this vote to. It was fair and I accept the results. --mav __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com

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DW Widow
by Daniel Mayer 19 Mar '03

19 Mar '03

>Dear Sir, > >I am the wife of David W. Thornton. I logged in to >Wikipedia.org as "Lucie" on our computer under the >User name, Black Widow . On my User Page, I clearly >posted an official notice that I was the wife of >User:DW. > >Today, after posting much hard work, I received the >following message when I tried to log in: > >Your user name or IP address has been blocked by >Maveric149. The reason given is this: Alias of DW > >You may contact Maveric149 or one of the other >administrators to discuss the block. > >Sir, I would like to point out that this person >calling him or her self Maverick149 has no proof >or the statement he made as to any alleged alias. This block was made a day after DW was banned - I had no idea you even existed at that point. >I searched your website and could find no official >legal notice stating that you ban people from >participating on your website on speculation or >that you discriminate against wives / partners / >friends / acquaintances etc. who may use our computer. /You/ were not blocked, DW was. Just look at the time and date of the block - your user account didn't even exist back then. >Please advise why you authorized this discrimination. >Sincerely yours. Christine Thornton, B.A., LL.B. Now before you throw words like "discrimination" around perhaps you can actually do a bit of homework first? In the future use the "Email this user" feature that is located on an Admin's user page to ask for a block removal. If you had visited my user page you would have seen an easy to use and find shortcut to this link. If you had visited the Admin page you also would have seen /another/ such link right next to my user name in the Admin list. If you had looked on the "IM a Wikipedian" page you would have seen my AIM nickname. The reason I'm pointing this out is that I check my email 5-10 times a day and am usually on AIM while at my home computer but I get Wikipedia-l in 10-20 email digests which can take up to 2 days to arrive in my mailbox (the IP block would probably have been lifted within an hour if you had emailed me - instead it looks like it lasted about a day). Another important piece of information would be your IP address - but I see you are editing again so everything is OK for now. Daniel Mayer (aka mav) WikiKarma http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Ramirez (new) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com

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Wikipedia unscheduled downtime over
by Brion Vibber 18 Mar '03

18 Mar '03

Wikipedia was down for almost two hours, from 8:36-10:22 UTC. There was a kernel panic related to the filesystem driver; I'm not entirely clear how this came about, but once that happens it stops liking to talk to the disk, which is obviously somewhat problematic. ;) The machine is rebooted and running smoothly again (big thanks to our very own Jason Richey!) -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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Test suite:input requested
by Lee Daniel Crocker 18 Mar '03

18 Mar '03

The test suite is coming along nicely, and I'm now to the point of just filling in each test case. There's one part I'm working on now that just reads pages, makes sure their HTML parses, and then does a few simple regular expression matches on the output. Right now it just looks for things like DOCTYPE, the META ROBOTS tag, the DIVs, and such, and looks for the absence of things like <FONT and onclick=. Help me fill out these two lists with lots of good output tests: i.e., tell me what you would expect to see on every page, and what you would not want to see on any page (preferably as a regular expression, but if you can just describe in words, I can code it). I'm copying this to the list at large, because I think non-techies will be able to help here as well. -- Lee Daniel Crocker <lee(a)piclab.com> <http://www.piclab.com/lee/> "All inventions or works of authorship original to me, herein and past, are placed irrevocably in the public domain, and may be used or modified for any purpose, without permission, attribution, or notification."--LDC

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a suggestion
by abhio＠vsnl.net 18 Mar '03

18 Mar '03

I really need to congratulate the guys who've worked their heads off on wikipedia and allowed people to share what they know best. I'm finding it really useful. But I felt that the real use of wikipedia only remains for net users and usually deal in detail on smaller topics. That would really not be enough to people who are seriously looking for stuff. Books in libraries would still be the best alternative. I felt by joining up articles from wiki that cover a certain topic and putting it together in the form of an e-book would be a great idea, with a continuity in thought and with more explanatory matter. And as and when these e-books improve in quality and content, I'm sure publishers would be keen to publish them as it helps cut on their development costs. Could the guys at wiki start something like this, it would really be useful!!

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[dwwidow2003@yahoo.com: Wikipedia]
by Jimmy Wales 18 Mar '03

18 Mar '03

----- Forwarded message from Christine Thornton <dwwidow2003(a)yahoo.com> ----- From: Christine Thornton <dwwidow2003(a)yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:27:06 -0800 (PST) To: jwales(a)bomis.com Subject: Wikipedia Dear Sir, I am the wife of David W. Thornton. I logged in to Wikipedia.org as "Lucie" on our computer under the User name, Black Widow . On my User Page, I clearly posted an official notice that I was the wife of User:DW. Today, after posting much hard work, I received the following message when I tried to log in: Your user name or IP address has been blocked by Maveric149. The reason given is this: Alias of DW You may contact Maveric149 or one of the other administrators to discuss the block. Sir, I would like to point out that this person calling him or her self Maverick149 has no proof or the statement he made as to any alleged alias. I searched your website and could find no official legal notice stating that you ban people from participating on your website on speculation or that you discriminate against wives / partners / friends / acquaintances etc. who may use our computer. Please advise why you authorized this discrimination. Sincerely yours. Christine Thornton, B.A., LL.B. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online ----- End forwarded message -----

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check in
by Stevertigo 17 Mar '03

17 Mar '03

Should there be a check-in when a logged in user edits a page? Maybe on a 5 minute timer? -SV

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