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On Saturday 28 September 2002 05:33 am, The Cunctato wrote:
> This is where you're wrong. In general, policy is decided by
editing the
> policy pages. If there's contention, then it moves to the talk pages.
> Only in the rare case where this is somehow "dangerous" (because the
> policy has sweeping and immediate consequence) or the process breaks
> down horribly does it need to go to the mailing list.
Where is this written? Policy has to be decided first before being changed.
Period. I think you are pretty much alone in your assertion that policy
can be changed unilaterally and then must be challenged if somebody
disagrees. This may seem logical to you because you are so accustomed to
confrontation (being an old Usenet guy) but for others that just want to work
in harmony under a consistent (yet evolving) set of guidelines, this is not
the way to do things.
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
Gareth wrote:
>
>No, it hasn't. The load of merciless editing has already driven away the
>valued and reasonable Julie Hoffman Kemp, and yet many of the German and
>French history pages she looked to save are still full of petty nationalists.
>Kooks 1, Wikipedia 0.
And Michael Tinkler. Kooks 2, Wikipedia 0.
kq
The Cunctator wrote;
>Waiting four minutes is not following the deletion
policy.
If the page is question was junk then there is no time
limit. And the "policy" you speak of is the "one week
rule" for listed items which you know very well that
you wrote yourself on the votes for deletion page and
I later bolded. I stated in the edit summary that I
agreed with it but that it "needed to have list
approval". I don't remember getting this approval.
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_policy_on_permanent_deletion_of_pag…
No mention here of a time period.
Here is the link to your addition to the votes for
deletion page;
http://www.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion&di…
The way I understand how to use the votes for deletion
page is to list page titles whose content has to be
moved, copyright violations and anything else there is
doubt about. Utter junk should be deleted on sight,
otherwise there would be at least a dozen page titles
added to the vote for deletions page every day.
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
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I've been working on creating a template for locator maps for use in the
element articles at http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium .
The trouble is that much of the feedback I've been getting about the locator
maps is that users' first instinct is to use the image as if it were an image
map (clicking on the position for helium for example and expecting to be
brought to that article). And the feedback I've gotten is from old-hand
Wikipedians who know our standard image behavior.
I could forgo the image and have an HTML table embeded in the element's table
but the perio HTML table is huge (15,000+ bytes of text) even without the
element names and symbols (I'm also not sure it would render correctly).
Q: Is it desirable to have image maps? Would having image maps in some places
(like the element locator maps) be confusing when they are not available in
others (such as geographic maps)?
It would be neat to have this ability but I'm not sure if it would be
desirable given our current non-standard image behavior (that is, clicking on
the image brings you to the image description page).
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
>Andre wrote:
>Well, whenever I try it, things go wrong. For example, when I try to search
>"George Bush" on OneLook, the second hit is Wikipedia. If I click on it, it
>brings me to
>"http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/George Bush", which gets interpreted as
>[[GeorgeBush]] rather than [[George Bush]].
For me, using Mozilla 1.0 or IE 5.5 for WinME, that results in http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/George%20Bush , with the space encoded as %20. What browser are you using?
Maybe there's a way to force the links to send with underlines instead of spaces, so the results will work in all browsers?
kq
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On Sun, 29 Sep 2002 15:37:28
koyaanisqatsi wrote:
>>Andre wrote:
>>Well, whenever I try it, things go wrong. For example, when I try to search
>>"George Bush" on OneLook, the second hit is Wikipedia. If I click on it, it
>>brings me to
>>"http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/George Bush", which gets interpreted as
>>[[GeorgeBush]] rather than [[George Bush]].
>
>For me, using Mozilla 1.0 or IE 5.5 for WinME, that results in http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/George%20Bush , with the space encoded as %20. What browser are you using?
>
>Maybe there's a way to force the links to send with underlines instead of spaces, so the results will work in all browsers?
>
>kq
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I have found a problem with the Wikipedia entries on Outlook: If one tries
to get a Wikipedia page with a name that is made of more than one words, it
tries to get the page with spaces instead of underscores. Could that be
improved?
Andre Engels
Vicki wrote:
>[snip] and I think more people go to such pages for
>"what happened today" than for "is it a holiday". Newspaper lists of this
>sort don't
>usually bother with holidays at all.
>
>Also, yes the holiday is celebrated every year, but it's also the
>anniversary of
>Isaac Newton's birth every year.
I also don't agree that the holidays should go at the top of the page. I'm generally not as interested in what holiday it might be as I am in more historical events such as rebellions, battles, assassinations, etc.
kq
Looking at the historical anniversary pages for days I think it would be
more logical to order them like this:
Day of the year
Holidays
Events
Births
Deaths
With holidays moved up to the second item from the last. The reason is
that the holiday is celebrated every year, so it makes more sense to have
it nearer the top so it is easier to find. You could argue that everyone
knows December 25th is Christmas, but to those who celebrate Christmas,
that is the most significant thing about that, and you would be surprised
how many people don't know that it is Christmas.
I am more then willing to start making the changes, but I would like some
comments on this first so I don't start a format war.
I posted this to
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Historical_anniversaries/Example as well
and welcome comments there.
-Jim McKeeth