> What's our policy with .gif? I know I'm supposed to be the
> ultimate "buck stops here" on policy issues, but I honestly forgot
> what we decided.
I don't remember that anybody had any strong feelings about it.
I'd see it the same as OGG/MP3--we'd rather have PNGs, but a GIF
is OK. I'd be likely to convert them if they were posted anyway
(although I would /not/ automatically convert MP3->OGG, because
that's a lossy transform).
>> Pierre, if you can give me that RealAudio sound you uploaded in
>> some other format (any other--wav, aiff, au, or even raw bytes),
>> I'll recode it into an Ogg so that we'll both be able to hear it.
> I have it in no other format. Do you know of a program that
> converts Real Audio into something else?
I believe WinAmp will do it if the .ra is not encrypted. But it
would be better to go to the source of the file and ask if they
have an original. They probably created the .ra from a .wav, and
that .wav will be the highest quality. (And if you don't know
where the file came from, it shouldn't be here anyway :-).
The answer to the title question is to do exactly what you're doing--
argue your case. It's quite likely that I've misunderstood a bug or
mistaken it for another.
In this case, the date the bug was entered made me think it was
entered against the test database before transition, but right after
I had restored an old dump, which would have produced symptoms
similar to those you mention. In the case of the live database,
others have answered you: the time cutoff and result count are
parallel limits. You only get the changes that meet both criteria.
If there's a way you think this might be better documented, feel free
to open a documentation bug or feature request.
>> I don't think it's appropriate to put Realaudio on Wikipedia.
>> The only sound format that is readily usable by freely-available
>> software on multiple platforms and that is compressed for Web
>> transfer is Ogg Vorbis. Especially now that they've released
>> 1.0, I see no reason to use anything else.
> Can ordinary Windows users, i.e. users who aren't into music and
> file sharing and the like, use Ogg Vorbis with relative ease?
> For example, could my mom, running Windows 2000 or Windows XP,
> click on an Ogg Vorbis sound and end up happy?
She probably doesn't have the software installed already, but it's
not that difficult. Some players like Sonique come with OGG support
out-of-the-box; others like WinAmp require you to install a plugin.
It's likely that Mozilla will add native support. I.E. will
likely always launch the external player.
But the big benefit is that unlike RA, she won't have to install
software that takes over her machine, sends her spam, and was
written by a company that has proven it can't be trusted. As
much as people complain about MS, Real.com is ten times worse.
I personally refuse to use any software from them--I value my
computer, and won't risk it. So I simply can't use RA at all.
It's a one-company format, so if I don't use their software,
there's no alternative.
I'm not quite as opposed to MP3--there are some patent problems,
but at least it's not a one-company format and there are players
for all platforms, and players are more likely to support it
without pugins. But most software supporting MP3 is also
supporting OGG these days or has promised to.
lcrocker(a)nupedia.com wrote:
>>Which reminds me: do we still want to restore the edit histories
>>from the usemod wiki days?
>
> That can certainly be done without much difficulty. Jimbo, do you
> have the old UseMod files still around somewhere?
(I sure hope so!)
It shouldn't be too hard to adapt the old convertWiki2SQL.php to talk to
the new database format; might want to double-check how it handles pages
that don't exist anymore, though. (Deletions, administrative renames
performed since January)
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
This fell off the mailing list:
lcrocker(a)nupedia.com wrote:
>>Try: [[Media:Morepork.ra|Sound of a morepork]]
>
>
> I don't think it's appropriate to put Realaudio on Wikipedia.
> The only sound format that is readily usable by freely-available
> software on multiple platforms and that is compressed for Web
> transfer is Ogg Vorbis. Especially now that they've released
> 1.0, I see no reason to use anything else.
>
> The software already semi-enforces this by accepting ".ogg"
> files without complaint while it warns about other extensions.
>
> That's also one reason I haven't chosen to document the "media:"
> feature yet--I wanted to get some consensus about its appropriate
> use, and maybe do it differently.
Someone recently uploaded that picture of two tents (or the same tent, with
and without a cover) and has not used it in an article. Should it be deleted?
phma
I'm using my normal web browser to edit Wikipedia articles, and
it wasn't really designed to be an editor. Several times I have
lost my work because either the browser crashed or the website
wasn't responding when I was done and wanted to save my article.
Real text editors or word processors have an auto-save function
that allows me to recover and continue work after a crash, so
why shouldn't a web browser? Of course I could write my article
in a real text editor, and submit it using cut-n-paste to the
browser, but I'm too lazy to switch back and forth.
If you know a web browser that supports offline writing or has an
auto-save function, please enlighten me. Do you use Emacs Wiki?
If you're using the free software Mozilla 1.x browser, you might
be interested in this new bug report/feature request by me,
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158258
--
Lars Aronsson (lars(a)aronsson.se)
tel +46-70-7891609
http://aronsson.se/http://elektrosmog.nu/http://susning.nu/
Hello,
how do we treat the Catholic Encyclopedia? (www.newadvent.org)
The articles are from a 1912 encyclopedia and should therefore be free,
but the website does claim a 1999 copyright for the online edition.
As it might be in many cases difficult to prove that someone copied from
newadvent.org, it is rather obvious if typos are preserved.
Can we use such an article as basis for copyediting?
Best regards,
jens