>Speaking of which, can we get rid of the "auto-wikification" button?
>It's definitely featuritis: very prominent, highly confusing, and of
>minimal utility.
...and undocumented. I agree, this button should go. At best, it could
be a user preference option (default: off).
Axel
I've noticed a few things changing in the last few days, the error
messages for one. :( Maybe someone here can tell me something about
them?
I had my settings set to show up unmade links in red which made it easy
to notice them and to see what needs making, and now they're back to
blue with a question mark even though I have 'red links' selected in my
options. Has that bit of scripting been disabled/removed or is something
weird going on?
Also, what does the new menu option in the sidebar mean? 'Vote for this
page'. Vote for this page for what?
The 'talk' option seems to show up as a blue link on all pages now
whether ther's anything on the page or not. Clicking a few links the
entry consisted of the standard 'describe the new page here' only it's
been saved as page content instead of just appearing in the edit window.
Finally, a new option has been added to the edit window 'automatically
wikify' but when I tried it to see what it did it didn't seem to do
anything... is it enabled? And what is it MEANT to do in an ideal world?
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> We need an upload space where people who care & have the time
> can test new features on an active (but unpublicized) site before
> the features go live...
I have the wikipedia software (and my in-progress reorg of it)
running on my own site; the few changes I made I tested myself,
but before I do anything major I'm sure I will point everyone
to my site and let them bang on it. I'm also open to the idea
of using my server as a general test area, and I'm willing to
give accounts to some of the developers if that would help.
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On every article I've looked at on the English
Wikipedia, there is now NO link to the Talk page of
articles. I'm using the standard skin. Please fix
this SOON!
Thank you,
Chuck
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Hm.... last I looked, there were links to talk, but no links back.
And ... I'm sure you've had your share of complaints, but--is there anything that can be done to bring the site up to a reasonable speed? Please?
thanks,
kq
You Wrote:
>On every article I've looked at on the English
>Wikipedia, there is now NO link to the Talk page of
>articles. I'm using the standard skin. Please fix
>this SOON!
>
>Thank you,
>Chuck
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Whatever the case, the fact is Wikipedia is hard to use. This one
relatively simple solution.
Ian Monroe
http://ian.webhop.org
On Wed, 8 May 2002, Jimmy Wales jwales(a)bomis.com XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX wrote:
> Ian wrote:
> > There needs to a series of mirrors to show static pages, and wikipedia.com
> > only used for Recent Changes and editing.
> > [snip]
> While I'm sympathetic to this in the long run, I'm not convinced that
> this is the real problem. We're not seeing anything like the levels
> of traffic that should be difficult for a single server to handle. We're
> just not using our resources wisely.
>
> --Jimbo
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There needs to a series of mirrors to show static pages, and wikipedia.com
only used for Recent Changes and editing. Their would still be a lot of
load on wikipedia.com but not as much, and if you just have to look
something up it would be easier. The mirrors could update about once or
twice a day.
School ends on the 24th, hopefully I'll be able to implement it this
summer. It would just need something to automatically produce static pages
which the mirrors would somehow be informed of what to download or it
could all be bziped up, whatever. I'll try to make it in as seperate files
as possible so it doesn't have to actually be implemented until its ready
and wanted.
Ian Monroe
http://ian.webhop.org
On Wed, 8 May 2002, kband(a)www.llamacom.com XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX wrote:
> =?iso-8859-1?q?Chuck=20Smith?= wrote:
> >
> > Improving performance on English server: when the
> > server reaches a certain threshhold of activity could
> > we replace the text of all the Special pages with:
> >
> > "This page is currently inaccessible because of the
> > immensive amount of traffic we're getting. Wikipedia
> > is just too popular."
>
> Removing Recent Changes functionality removes most of the
> functionality for me as an editor...taking it down would be almost as
> bad as the current molasses we're in.
>
> A much better suggestion would be to fix the code. My completely
> unhelpful suspicion is that it's PHP's fault. But I'm a perl bigot, so
> take it for what it's worth. I'm just not surprised we're having
> problems.
>
> --tc
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> A much better suggestion would be to fix the code. My
> completely unhelpful suspicion is that it's PHP's fault.
> But I'm a perl bigot, so take it for what it's worth. I'm
> just not surprised we're having problems.
Right suggestion, wrong reason. I rather suspected PHP
as well, but now that I've lived and breathed the code for
a week or so, I'm quite statisfied that PHP is more than
fast enough. The present code, on the other hand, with all
due respect and admiration for Magnus's tireless efforts,
is a mess. It has no architecture or design to speak of,
and does lots of unnecessary work, including many redundant
database fetches.
I'm working on it. I'll release working snapshots of my
version as I complete things that the other developers can
test, but I'd also like to see our develop-test-install
process cleaned up before we jump headlong into anything.
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=?iso-8859-1?q?Chuck=20Smith?= wrote:
>
> Improving performance on English server: when the
> server reaches a certain threshhold of activity could
> we replace the text of all the Special pages with:
>
> "This page is currently inaccessible because of the
> immensive amount of traffic we're getting. Wikipedia
> is just too popular."
Removing Recent Changes functionality removes most of the
functionality for me as an editor...taking it down would be almost as
bad as the current molasses we're in.
A much better suggestion would be to fix the code. My completely
unhelpful suspicion is that it's PHP's fault. But I'm a perl bigot, so
take it for what it's worth. I'm just not surprised we're having
problems.
--tc