I supplied the Spanish version already; I'm quite sure it is
technically accurate, but not being a native speaker I can't say much
about its connotations or tone. I'm sure Astronomer has seen it and
didn't care to edit it, so it's probably fine.
You Wrote:
>Dear translators,
>
>We would like to solicit your help, hoping that some of you might be
>interested.
>
>On our "International Wikipedia" wikis, we have not yet translated
the
>copyright warning into the target languages. This is very important,
>because we want to do what we can to prevent people from uploading
>copyrighted content. This could be damaging to Bomis legally and
therefore
>to both Nupedia and Wikipedia.
>
>Here is the text of the warning:
>
>Please notice that all contributions to Wikipedia are considered to
be
>released under the GNU Free Documentation License. If you don't
want your
>writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then
don't hit
>submit. You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or
copied
>it from a public domain resource. DO NOT USE COPYRIGHTED WORK
WITHOUT
>PERMISSION!
>
>Here are the languages we need this in:
>http://ca.wikipedia.com/ Catalan (Catalan)
>http://zh.wikipedia.com/ Chinese (Hanyu)
>http://de.wikipedia.com/ German (Deutsch)
>http://eo.wikipedia.com/ Esperanto
>http://fr.wikipedia.com/ French (Français)
>http://he.wikipedia.com/ Hebrew (Ivrit)
>http://it.wikipedia.com/ Italian (Italiano)
>http://ja.wikipedia.com/ Japanese (Nihongo)
>http://pt.wikipedia.com/ Portuguese (Português)
>http://ru.wikipedia.com/ Russian (Russkiy)
>http://es.wikipedia.com/ Spanish (Castellano)
>http://sv.wikipedia.com/ Swedish (Svensk)]
>
>Please, send translations of this very important text to
jasonr(a)bomis.com.
>Thanks!
>
>Thanks and best regards,
>Larry Sanger
>
>[Wikipedia-l]
>To manage your subscription to this list, please go here:
>http://www.nupedia.com/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l
>0
On http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/Civil_engineering
there are two phrases that are properly wikified:
[[environmental engineering]]
[[applied mathematicians]]
But both phrases appear with double brackets *displayed* and without a
clickable question mark. What's even more bizarre to me is that the above
phrases appear alongside other such phrases that are structurally identical,
and those other phrases *are* shown with clickable question marks! For
example, this
Other parts of civil engineering include [[transportation
engineering]], [[environmental engineering]], and [[construction
management]].
is displayed like this:
Other parts of civil engineering include [transportation
engineering]?, [[environmental engineering]], and [construction
management]?.
Help?
Larry
Hello all,
What do you think ?
I am in a dilemma :
We have 'Vitamin C' and 'Ascorbic acid' that are exactly the same thing
so is it better :
1. to create entry for 'Ascorbic acid' and redirect 'Vitamin
C' entry to the page
2. to create entries for both 'Ascorbic acid' and 'Vitamin C' and from the
'Vitamin C' page, which is just a note, link to 'Ascorbic acid'
3. the other way round
It is open for debate what should be the fundamental entry -
'Ascorbic acid' is the chemical name but most people recognize the name
of 'Vitamin C'. So...
Regards,
kpj.
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Hello Wikipedians,
Do we have a list of all missed searches ordered by number top-down
somewhere ?
If not - there should be one. In this way we could see what the users
need.
BTW What do you think about user's perpective of Wikipedia ?
Now we look at it as authors. Do we have users comments ? Do we need polls
about Wikipedia development (for authors) and Wikipedia quality (for users)
?
Bye,
kpj.
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Here's an idea that I will conclude (at the end of the post) isn't such a
good idea. But it's worth thinking about.
As an extra line of links at the bottom of *every* page on *every*
Wikipedia, have this:
Read and edit an article on this topic in:
English -- Castellano -- Deutsch -- Francais -- German -- [etc.; the various
languages we have]
One simpleminded suggestion would have it that at the bottom of
http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/Foo , these links would be to, for example,
http://es.wikipedia.com/wiki/Foo and http://de.wikipedia.com/wiki/Foo , etc.
The problem of course is that "Foo" is not a word in Spanish. :-) Or if it
is, it probably means "rutabaga" or is very rude. It requires very
specialized knowledge, which cannot be automated, to know where those links
should point.
So *can* we interlink similar pages between the various international
Wikipedias, in order to foster cross-pollination? If so, how? Well, I have
an idea that requires *minimal* programmer involvement (always a plus for
overworked programmers!).
Describe the new page here.
<font size="-1">[Castellano] -- [Catalan] -- [Deutsch] -- [English] --
[Esperanto] -- [Français] -- [Hanyu] -- [Italiano] -- [Ivrit] --
[Nihongo] -- [Português] -- [Russkiy] -- [Svensk]</font>
Note, the names are given in their own languages, so the text can be used
with all new language wikis; we'd could use this same text for all the
wikis.
What I'd like to have is some commented-out instructions right before the
list of languages (and *that* would have to be translated) but I'm not sure
there is any way to write comments in wiki-markup! But, anyway, we'd have
something like this:
<!-- Please don't remove this notice! If you identify an article on another
Wikipedia on a topic that corresponds exactly to this article's topic, then,
please, won't you add the URL of that other article, so that the language
name below points to that article? -->
Even if this comment notice can be added, the one big problem with this sche
me is that people just won't go to the trouble of putting in all the links.
In fact, that's probably the case--enough that perhaps we shouldn't go to
the trouble of doing this.
But maybe I'm not thinking of something here...maybe what's needed is a new
text box with special bells and whistles, but that's not going to happen
anytime soon, I'm sure.
Anyway, so my conclusion is that we shouldn't do anything along these lines
yet (unless someone can think up something brilliant), but eventually, we
might...
Well, one idea is just to make links on the [[Foo]] page point to a
corresponding [[Foo]] page on the other wikis; then, on those other wikis,
redirect [[Foo]] to the correct word in the other language. In THAT case,
we should change the commented-out notice above.
Larry
> What do you think about web democracy in the form of online
polls ?
Ick. And double ick. I cannot imagine a voting process doing
anything but institutionalizing mediocrity. The anarchy is precisely
what makes Wikipedia effective at creating content. Why do we want
to cripple what it does best? If we want to create a product that is
clean and well-organized, let's do that too--as a separate, but
releated project, using the Wiki-created content or some subset
thereof. That's the purpose of the FDL, after all--to ensure that
the content will be usable in whatever other products we or someone
else might imagine for it.
What we might want to do is make better facilities for metadata,
including ratings and evaluations of pages by various people, then
allow users to narrow their searching and browsing to pages with
certain evaluations. But let's have each person's evaluation of each
page be recorded individually; if the criterion chosen by a viewer
is "majority approval" or some such, then that's OK for that user;
but others should be able to upgrade or downgrade articles based on
evaluations by individuals or other processes.
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Hello all,
A short question.
Are there any other CGI scripts apart from wiki.cgi on Wikipedia ?
Do you think there should be ?
It might be useful to fish in the growing pond of information.
Regards,
kpj.
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Hello all,
I might sound totally blasphemous so be patient.
Wikipedia and wiki concept is really great but the WWW is a global
Wikipedia without the end-user editing facility.
Aren't we in a cul-de-sac ?
WWW is full of brilliant pages and sites entangled in a sea of rubbish.
I doubt that we can outdo most sites, commercial or personal. Wouldn't it
be better to do a critical review of the whole web with some additions of
our own ?
Another point worth discussing is the role of a wikipedian.
In my opinion he/she is a 21st century counterpart of an 18th encyclopedist.
A knowledgeable, open-minded, rational, impartial person (not a scientist)
whose mission is to gather knowledge. Wikipedia should be a global
knowledge base rather than a collection of personal essays on subject one
can find in a normal encyclopedia.
Editorial board.
Are we for a democracy or freedom/anarchy ?
At some point when Wikipedia reaches a critical mass there should be some
democratic Editorial Board. It could even freeze some pages for some time.
If you say no to the Editorial Board some democratic rules should be set in
stone.
End point.
Can someone please tell me what's the end point/goal of Wikipedia ?
Don't tell there no end-point and this is eternal task ;-)
RDF
Wikipedia - patchy with some articles for students, some for laymen and
some for university professors ?
Or branch out into Kid's Wikipedia, Regular Wikipedia, Highbrow Wikipedia.
I am really enthusiastic about Wikipedia - I contribute regularly and am
determined to to so in future. These are just my thoughts.
Please bear in mind I have _no_ intention to spread FUD (fear, uncertainty,
doubt) about Wikipedia's functioning and goals.
I hope Wikipedia will flourish.
Best regards,
kpj.
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Stefan,
No copyright license ever restricts the rights of the original
author; it only describes which of those rights he chooses to grant
to others and under what conditions. If he chooses to grant certain
rights to others, he cannot rescind such a grant once given, but that
certainly says nothing about what he himself can or cannot do.
Anything you write is yours. Any part you choose to give to others
is usable by them under the terms of you give them. If you at some
later time want to use it for a proprietary product, you are free to
do so. If you had previously granted some rights to use the text to
others (say by publishing it under the GFDL), those people still
retain those rights to that version, but you still retain ALL rights
to that version and any subsequent ones.
FOr example, everything I write I give to the public domain. I
simply release all my rights to everyone. My work, as amended by
other Wikipedians and published there, is only licensed under the
more restrictive terms of GFDL, but that doesn't mean I can't also
publish my own work on my own site fully in the public domain (as I
intend to do). I can also sell it to a publisher if I wanted, though
I can't "take back" the versions that I've already given away. To
negotiate in good faith, I would have to disclose to a publisher that
there existed free versions of what I was selling them, and perhaps
they would ask me to rework the text so it could be copyrighted more
restrictively. I wouldn't care to do that, but I certainly could.
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Hello all,
Is there a need for tempating CGI scripts ?
A form with fields that must be completed and and textarea field with the
rest of the article.
Title
keywords
author
web links
related subjects
etc..
this might be an option like this
http://www2.wikipedia.com/wiki.cgi?action=edit&id=Porcupine&form=yes
When will we see spell-checking script that would highlight or list
suspected words ?
Regards,
kpj.
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