Wikipedia-l December 2001

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Re: Welcome messages
by Daniel Mayer 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

On Wednesday 04 September 2002 10:38 am, Helga wrote: > Hello, I am a little swamped with all the wiki list reading material and it > seems my limited email is getting overloaded. You might want to create an email filter to sort any emails with the string "Helga" in the subject into a special folder (just use the help menu of whatever email program you use and look up "filter"). Otherwise you may miss some emails that concern you. -- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)

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Re: Re: note to the militia
by Daniel Mayer 26 Aug '02

26 Aug '02

On Saturday 24 August 2002 12:01 pm, Karen wrote: > Something I wondered - how do you know who the new users to greet them? > Do you just look for user names you haven't seen before or is there some > way to identify them? I'd be happy to do the meet-and-greet but I don't > know how to do it. Well - I guess I do it the hard way and scan each edit in all Recent Changes for a 24 hour period looking for edit link user names (a dead give-a-away) and for user names I don't remember seeing before. This works for me since I pretty good reading comprehension and memory. What would be most useful is a listing of new users that can be accessed from http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Listusers. That way this job would be much easier. BTW we really /do not/ have 3498 real users -- a good many of these "users" logged in only to abuse our upload utility or for other nefarious or non-contributing reasons (I don't greet any user who hasn't contributed at all). Is there a way to get rid of many of these no-longer used user accounts Lee (just the ones that have been inactive for months and whose user pages are still edit links)? -- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)

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Re: [Wikipedia-l] wikipedia.org
by Daniel Mayer 22 Aug '02

22 Aug '02

On Monday 19 August 2002 03:41 pm, you wrote: > Can still be done later. The problem is the lack of time. If you wait to > long there are to many links to the new location of the english > wikipedia that can not be broken. If there is no fundamental objection > to put the English wikipedia at en.wikipedia.org then that must be done. > What to do whit www.wikipedia.org can wait (a littel.) > > giskart This is just silly -- we are building an encyclopedia here not an organization. There is nothing at all wrong with having the English wikipedia at wikipedia.org and have all the pages that are about the English language project be in the wikipedia namespace (or in the other languages project namespaces). As each language figures out what to call their wikipedia we can buy them domain names for that and make sure the xx.wikipedia.com domain names still work. Other than being a one-page portal to all the different language wikipedias (which the Main Page already does -- as do most of the other language main pages) I don't see any logic in using wikipedia.org for anything other than the English language wikipedia. -- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)

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Incorrect HTML encoding--something new?
by lcrocker＠nupedia.com 15 Jan '02

15 Jan '02

I'm not sure when it happened, but somewhere the main Wikipedia site started putting out HTML with: ?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"? ... !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML Basic 1.0//EN" ... None of the above is even close to the truth, and for the code to claim it is will cause many problems. The HTTP headers simply claim that the text is "HTML" and that the encoding is "ISO-8859-1", both of which are accurate and useful; this is the way UseMod has always worked and still does, so I don't know where the new stuff came from. This needs to be fixed. "Meta" is too broken now for me to check. 0

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Layout of Wikipedia pages: "Wikipedia" missing
by Axel Boldt 14 Jan '02

14 Jan '02

Should the name of HomePage be changed, I would strongly argue for "Main Page" over "Home Page". Most people think of "Home Page" as the place where the browser goes when you start it up, and others use the term as in "personal home page", i.e. where you put the pictures of your kids. Axel

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New York Times Magazine writeup
by Axel Boldt 13 Jan '02

13 Jan '02

Today's New York Times Magazine has a long list of ideas which they call "The Year in Ideas". One of those ideas is "Populist Editing", which , you guessed it, is about Wikis in general and Wikipedia in particular. Very positive writeup. http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/09/magazine/09POPULIST.html Axel

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New toys at the PHP script test site
by Magnus Manske 30 Dec '01

30 Dec '01

Here's my Christmas present for you all: New features for the PHP script to come! Probably the most important one is the "interlanguage" feature. Just for German right now, but is can be easily extended for other languages as well. I set up an example at http://wikipedia.sourceforge.net/fpw/wiki.phtml?title=Vikings where I added "[[de:Wikinger]]" to the text (it doesn't matter where the link is within the text). Now, I have the "de" namespace internally defined as a language namespace, going to the German wikipedia. The "de:" link is NOT displayed within the text, but in the article header, as you can see. The "Deutsch" link goes straight to the "Wikinger" article in the German wikipedia. This is only the first step. As I explained elsewhere, once all wikipedias are changed to the PHP script, these links can be collected automatically (say, each day or each week), and ensure all existing language versions are interlinked properly. Another toy is the "contributions" link on every user page. Try mine, for example, at http://wikipedia.sourceforge.net/fpw/wiki.phtml?title=user:Magnus_Manske. The "This user's contributions" link at the top goes to a page with a list of all articles I ever edited, according to the database. (These are only the edits I did on the test site, of course). Finally, a minor thing : On Recent Changes, all edits that were made anonymously have the IP marked in red; as most vandals don't have a user name, it might be of advantage to spot every anonymous edit easily. Don't get run over by a reindeer, (why don't we have a [[reindeer]] article on the 'pedia???) Magnus

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Send this article to your friend
by Krzysztof P. Jasiutowicz 28 Dec '01

28 Dec '01

Hello all, As suggested on meta wikipedia site it might be useful to have 'Send this article to your friend' link in footer of all Wikipedia articles (except Talk pages ?). There are two clear uses of this link : 1. invite someone to take part or take interest in Wikipedia 2. invite someone to solicit comment or review of an article It would be wise to take precautions against abuse of this feature. Limit the number of copies, log users etc Regards, kpj. -- Krzysztof P. Jasiutowicz, M.D Pierwsza Polska Wolna Encyklopedia Sieciowa - TY też możesz ją tworzyć zajrzyj na : http://wiki.rozeta.com.pl/

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Re: Wikipedia-l digest, Vol 1 #240 - 1 msg
by sgilbert＠nbnet.nb.ca 27 Dec '01

27 Dec '01

> This guy reminds me of the anti-globalization pinheads who think that > any form of commercialism is necessarily corrupt. Of course, not everyone protesting "globalization" is against all forms of commercialism... or is a pinhead. ;-) Stephen Gilbert

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Bookmarklets
by Axel Boldt 26 Dec '01

26 Dec '01

Jimbo, the bookmarklets at http://math-www.uni-paderborn.de/~axel/bookmarklet.html are in the public domain, so please put them up on the server somewhere. They both work now. Apparently, you cannot try out the Netscape one directly from the page, you first have to add it to the bookmark list. Axel

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