It had started with Wikimedia Commons and then upload.wikimedia.org (so no images) and now Persian Wikinews and I just realized except a few number of ISPs all WM websites are blocked everywhere. Obviously analytics can give more details.
I talked with legal team in Wikimania and asked them for a direct talk or any kind of negotiation with Iranian government to make things easier but It's going worse. they lifted block on CNN once Rouhani had interview with them two years ago.
Any ideas?
Best
Hi Amir,
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
It had started with Wikimedia Commons and then upload.wikimedia.org (so no images) and now Persian Wikinews
What error do you get when you try to upload a picture? If you share couple of screen-shots, those can help, too.
Re Wikinews, can you get to Wikinews and the images inside articles don't get uploaded or you cannot get to Wikinews at all? If the latter, what is the error you're getting?
and I just realized except a few number of ISPs all WM websites are blocked everywhere. Obviously analytics can give more details.
There is an effort to collect more information about which ISPs work and which ones don't (note that in some ISPs, the bad_connection_error happens only at certain times during the day so you may want to check the ISPs you're checking in different times of the day if that is the error you see.). If you have more information, you can add them in the corresponding tea-house discussion https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%E2%80%8C%D9%BE%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%A7:%D9%82%D9%87%D9%88%D9%87%E2%80%8C%D8%AE%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%87/%D9%81%D9%86%DB%8C#.D9.88.DB.8C.DA.A9.DB.8C_.D8.A7.D9.86.D8.A8.D8.A7.D8.B1_.D9.88_.D9.85.D8.B4.DA.A9.D9.84.D8.A7.D8.AA_.D8.AF.D8.B3.D8.AA.D8.B1.D8.B3.DB.8C. I have an eye on that page.
Best, Leila
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Not all WMF websites are blocked in Iran, Till now commons is blocked and Fawikinews (starting this evening), as far as I contacted local authorities, they didn't confirm the block, they only said it might technical issue, I am still try to get more information to see what is happening
Mardetanha
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
It had started with Wikimedia Commons and then upload.wikimedia.org (so no images) and now Persian Wikinews and I just realized except a few number of ISPs all WM websites are blocked everywhere. Obviously analytics can give more details.
I talked with legal team in Wikimania and asked them for a direct talk or any kind of negotiation with Iranian government to make things easier but It's going worse. they lifted block on CNN once Rouhani had interview with them two years ago.
Any ideas?
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IIRC we used to have the alternative URL
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikinews/fa/wiki/
in order to access
but it seems that these were turned into redirects, probably when the https switch happened.
Would it be an idea to not make them redirects but return the content on the wikimedia domain, or, even better, on the wikipedia domain (and maybe any of our domains) as well?
Cheers, Denny
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Mardetanha mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Not all WMF websites are blocked in Iran, Till now commons is blocked and Fawikinews (starting this evening), as far as I contacted local authorities, they didn't confirm the block, they only said it might technical issue, I am still try to get more information to see what is happening
Mardetanha
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
It had started with Wikimedia Commons and then upload.wikimedia.org (so
no
images) and now Persian Wikinews and I just realized except a few number
of
ISPs all WM websites are blocked everywhere. Obviously analytics can give more details.
I talked with legal team in Wikimania and asked them for a direct talk or any kind of negotiation with Iranian government to make things easier but It's going worse. they lifted block on CNN once Rouhani had interview
with
them two years ago.
Any ideas?
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It seems IP of WMF wikis is being blocked so AFAIK it doesn't really depend on domain name.
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 9:32 PM Denny Vrandecic dvrandecic@wikimedia.org wrote:
IIRC we used to have the alternative URL
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikinews/fa/wiki/
in order to access
but it seems that these were turned into redirects, probably when the https switch happened.
Would it be an idea to not make them redirects but return the content on the wikimedia domain, or, even better, on the wikipedia domain (and maybe any of our domains) as well?
Cheers, Denny
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Mardetanha mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Not all WMF websites are blocked in Iran, Till now commons is blocked and Fawikinews (starting this evening), as far as I contacted local authorities, they didn't confirm the block, they only said it might technical issue, I am still try to get more information to see what is happening
Mardetanha
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
It had started with Wikimedia Commons and then upload.wikimedia.org
(so
no
images) and now Persian Wikinews and I just realized except a few
number
of
ISPs all WM websites are blocked everywhere. Obviously analytics can
give
more details.
I talked with legal team in Wikimania and asked them for a direct talk
or
any kind of negotiation with Iranian government to make things easier
but
It's going worse. they lifted block on CNN once Rouhani had interview
with
them two years ago.
Any ideas?
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Oh, thanks for the report. IP blocks suck more than DNS meddling...
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
It seems IP of WMF wikis is being blocked so AFAIK it doesn't really depend on domain name.
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 9:32 PM Denny Vrandecic dvrandecic@wikimedia.org wrote:
IIRC we used to have the alternative URL
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikinews/fa/wiki/
in order to access
but it seems that these were turned into redirects, probably when the
https
switch happened.
Would it be an idea to not make them redirects but return the content on the wikimedia domain, or, even better, on the wikipedia domain (and maybe any of our domains) as well?
Cheers, Denny
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Mardetanha mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Not all WMF websites are blocked in Iran, Till now commons is blocked
and
Fawikinews (starting this evening), as far as I contacted local authorities, they didn't confirm the block, they only said it might technical issue, I am still try to get more information to see what is happening
Mardetanha
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
It had started with Wikimedia Commons and then upload.wikimedia.org
(so
no
images) and now Persian Wikinews and I just realized except a few
number
of
ISPs all WM websites are blocked everywhere. Obviously analytics can
give
more details.
I talked with legal team in Wikimania and asked them for a direct
talk
or
any kind of negotiation with Iranian government to make things easier
but
It's going worse. they lifted block on CNN once Rouhani had interview
with
them two years ago.
Any ideas?
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A quick update: It's back but still unavailable in some ISPs.
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:24 PM Denny Vrandecic dvrandecic@wikimedia.org wrote:
Oh, thanks for the report. IP blocks suck more than DNS meddling...
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
It seems IP of WMF wikis is being blocked so AFAIK it doesn't really
depend
on domain name.
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 9:32 PM Denny Vrandecic <
dvrandecic@wikimedia.org>
wrote:
IIRC we used to have the alternative URL
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikinews/fa/wiki/
in order to access
but it seems that these were turned into redirects, probably when the
https
switch happened.
Would it be an idea to not make them redirects but return the content
on
the wikimedia domain, or, even better, on the wikipedia domain (and
maybe
any of our domains) as well?
Cheers, Denny
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Mardetanha <
mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com>
wrote:
Not all WMF websites are blocked in Iran, Till now commons is blocked
and
Fawikinews (starting this evening), as far as I contacted local authorities, they didn't confirm the block, they only said it might technical issue, I am still try to get more information to see what
is
happening
Mardetanha
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Amir Ladsgroup <ladsgroup@gmail.com
wrote:
It had started with Wikimedia Commons and then
upload.wikimedia.org
(so
no
images) and now Persian Wikinews and I just realized except a few
number
of
ISPs all WM websites are blocked everywhere. Obviously analytics
can
give
more details.
I talked with legal team in Wikimania and asked them for a direct
talk
or
any kind of negotiation with Iranian government to make things
easier
but
It's going worse. they lifted block on CNN once Rouhani had
interview
with
them two years ago.
Any ideas?
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Block depends on so many factors, depends on ISP you can see wide range of behavior, for me nothing is blocked since my ISP is IPM. This behavior is changing and that's worrying to me. Wikipedia was accessible using Irancell in Tehran but right now it's not. More worrying, upload.wikimedia.org is blocked so without proxy there is no image (except images in cache) anywhere in any wiki. People in Shiraz don't have access to any WMF wiki at all but as I said we need to check more deeply into this matter and start talking to the government or anyone useful ASAP. I will talk to some people tomorrow in a conference I will attend.
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 9:27 PM Mardetanha mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Not all WMF websites are blocked in Iran, Till now commons is blocked and Fawikinews (starting this evening), as far as I contacted local authorities, they didn't confirm the block, they only said it might technical issue, I am still try to get more information to see what is happening
Mardetanha
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
It had started with Wikimedia Commons and then upload.wikimedia.org (so
no
images) and now Persian Wikinews and I just realized except a few number
of
ISPs all WM websites are blocked everywhere. Obviously analytics can give more details.
I talked with legal team in Wikimania and asked them for a direct talk or any kind of negotiation with Iranian government to make things easier but It's going worse. they lifted block on CNN once Rouhani had interview
with
them two years ago.
Any ideas?
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