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Amir Ladsgroup

30 Sep 2015 30 Sep '15

6:03 p.m.

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Leila Zia

30 Sep 30 Sep

6:29 p.m.

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Hi Amir, On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Amir Ladsgroup <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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It had started with Wikimedia Commons and then upload.wikimedia.org (so no images) and now Persian Wikinews

What error do you get when you try to upload a picture? If you share couple of screen-shots, those can help, too. Re Wikinews, can you get to Wikinews and the images inside articles don't get uploaded or you cannot get to Wikinews at all? If the latter, what is the error you're getting?

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and I just realized except a few number of ISPs all WM websites are blocked everywhere. Obviously analytics can give more details.

There is an effort to collect more information about which ISPs work and which ones don't (note that in some ISPs, the bad_connection_error happens only at certain times during the day so you may want to check the ISPs you're checking in different times of the day if that is the error you see.). If you have more information, you can add them in the corresponding tea-house discussion <https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%E2%80%8C%D9%BE%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%A7:%D9%82%D9%87%D9%88%D9%87%E2%80%8C%D8%AE%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%87/%D9%81%D9%86%DB%8C#.D9.88.DB.8C.DA.A9.DB.8C_.D8.A7.D9.86.D8.A8.D8.A7.D8.B1_.D9.88_.D9.85.D8.B4.DA.A9.D9.84.D8.A7.D8.AA_.D8.AF.D8.B3.D8.AA.D8.B1.D8.B3.DB.8C>. I have an eye on that page. Best, Leila

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Mardetanha

6:34 p.m.

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Not all WMF websites are blocked in Iran, Till now commons is blocked and Fawikinews (starting this evening), as far as I contacted local authorities, they didn't confirm the block, they only said it might technical issue, I am still try to get more information to see what is happening Mardetanha On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Amir Ladsgroup <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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It had started with Wikimedia Commons and then upload.wikimedia.org (so no images) and now Persian Wikinews and I just realized except a few number of ISPs all WM websites are blocked everywhere. Obviously analytics can give more details. I talked with legal team in Wikimania and asked them for a direct talk or any kind of negotiation with Iranian government to make things easier but It's going worse. they lifted block on CNN once Rouhani had interview with them two years ago. Any ideas? Best _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

Denny Vrandecic

7:02 p.m.

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IIRC we used to have the alternative URL https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikinews/fa/wiki/ in order to access https://fa.wikinews.org/wiki but it seems that these were turned into redirects, probably when the https switch happened. Would it be an idea to not make them redirects but return the content on the wikimedia domain, or, even better, on the wikipedia domain (and maybe any of our domains) as well? Cheers, Denny On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Mardetanha <mardetanha.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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It had started with Wikimedia Commons and then upload.wikimedia.org (so

images) and now Persian Wikinews and I just realized except a few number

ISPs all WM websites are blocked everywhere. Obviously analytics can give more details. I talked with legal team in Wikimania and asked them for a direct talk or any kind of negotiation with Iranian government to make things easier but It's going worse. they lifted block on CNN once Rouhani had interview

with

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Amir Ladsgroup

7:10 p.m.

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Block depends on so many factors, depends on ISP you can see wide range of behavior, for me nothing is blocked since my ISP is IPM. This behavior is changing and that's worrying to me. Wikipedia was accessible using Irancell in Tehran but right now it's not. More worrying, upload.wikimedia.org is blocked so without proxy there is no image (except images in cache) anywhere in any wiki. People in Shiraz don't have access to any WMF wiki at all but as I said we need to check more deeply into this matter and start talking to the government or anyone useful ASAP. I will talk to some people tomorrow in a conference I will attend. On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 9:27 PM Mardetanha <mardetanha.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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It had started with Wikimedia Commons and then upload.wikimedia.org (so

images) and now Persian Wikinews and I just realized except a few number

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Amir Ladsgroup

7:12 p.m.

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It seems IP of WMF wikis is being blocked so AFAIK it doesn't really depend on domain name. On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 9:32 PM Denny Vrandecic <dvrandecic(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

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(so

no > images) and now Persian Wikinews and I just realized except a few

number

of > ISPs all WM websites are blocked everywhere. Obviously analytics can

give

> more details. > > I talked with legal team in Wikimania and asked them for a direct talk

> any kind of negotiation with Iranian government to make things easier

but

It's going worse. they lifted block on CNN once Rouhani had interview

with

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Denny Vrandecic

7:54 p.m.

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Oh, thanks for the report. IP blocks suck more than DNS meddling... On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Amir Ladsgroup <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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It seems IP of WMF wikis is being blocked so AFAIK it doesn't really depend on domain name. On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 9:32 PM Denny Vrandecic <dvrandecic(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

https

switch happened. Would it be an idea to not make them redirects but return the content on the wikimedia domain, or, even better, on the wikipedia domain (and maybe any of our domains) as well? Cheers, Denny On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Mardetanha <mardetanha.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Not all WMF websites are blocked in Iran, Till now commons is blocked

and

Fawikinews (starting this evening), as far as I contacted local authorities, they didn't confirm the block, they only said it might technical issue, I am still try to get more information to see what is happening Mardetanha On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Amir Ladsgroup <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote: > It had started with Wikimedia Commons and then upload.wikimedia.org

(so

no > images) and now Persian Wikinews and I just realized except a few

number

of > ISPs all WM websites are blocked everywhere. Obviously analytics can

give > > more details. > > > > I talked with legal team in Wikimania and asked them for a direct

talk

> any kind of negotiation with Iranian government to make things easier

but > > It's going worse. they lifted block on CNN once Rouhani had interview > with > > them two years ago. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Best > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe:

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Amir Ladsgroup

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9:28 p.m.

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A quick update: It's back but still unavailable in some ISPs. On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:24 PM Denny Vrandecic <dvrandecic(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

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Oh, thanks for the report. IP blocks suck more than DNS meddling... On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Amir Ladsgroup <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote:

It seems IP of WMF wikis is being blocked so AFAIK it doesn't really

depend

on domain name. On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 9:32 PM Denny Vrandecic <

dvrandecic(a)wikimedia.org>

wrote:

https > switch happened. > > Would it be an idea to not make them redirects but return the content

> the wikimedia domain, or, even better, on the wikipedia domain (and

maybe

> any of our domains) as well? > > Cheers, > Denny > > > > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Mardetanha <

mardetanha.wiki(a)gmail.com>

wrote: > Not all WMF websites are blocked in Iran, Till now commons is blocked

and > > Fawikinews (starting this evening), as far as I contacted local > > authorities, they didn't confirm the block, they only said it might > > technical issue, I am still try to get more information to see what

> happening > > > Mardetanha > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Amir Ladsgroup <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com

> > wrote: > > > > > It had started with Wikimedia Commons and then

upload.wikimedia.org

> (so > > no > > > images) and now Persian Wikinews and I just realized except a few > number > > of > > > ISPs all WM websites are blocked everywhere. Obviously analytics

can

give > > more details. > > > > I talked with legal team in Wikimania and asked them for a direct

talk > or > > > any kind of negotiation with Iranian government to make things

easier

> but > > > It's going worse. they lifted block on CNN once Rouhani had

interview

> with > > them two years ago. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Best > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe:

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