Hi Romaine,
Having bots that list tasks that need doing is a great way to get things done. But you need to think carefully who you target this work at. We do have bots that tell editors when they've linked an article to a disambiguation page, there is some logic in that as the person who added the information is more likely to understand it and know which other article it really should be added to. But for general gnomish work like categorisation adding wikilinks and now migrating to wikidata, better I suggest to create some category and try to recruit gnomes to do that work en masse. Someone who creates a few dozen articles might not fancy learning about wikidata, but a gnome who specialises in it might do many times that amount of migration.
Remember the essence of crowd sourcing is to get lots of people to take on the parts of the task that they want to do.
WSC
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 12:04:58 -0700 From: Raymond Leonard raymond.f.leonard.jr@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Wikidata mailing list wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next step in the development Message-ID: <CAOTiT=NSKvRDjkKtN8ydDUavwC=uPb5= C3yWZeQ-rNQek6iaMQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Often I see or make additions to articles & then see hidden categories like Official Website not in Wikidata or Coordinates not in Wikidata, or the Authority Control data is in Wikidata but it has an LCCN parameter added in the template in Wikipedia. Are there any semi-automated tools that would facilitate moving such data into Wikidata when we encounter these things? How can we improve the workflow to aid the transfer of this data?
Yours, Peaceray
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Romaine Wiki romaine.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I think it is time for the next step in the Wikidata development: a
better
integration in Wikipedia and her sisterprojects.
Every day thousands of articles are created, and many of those are not added to Wikidata, even while often an item about this subject exists. Users forget to add a newly created article to Wikidata as there is no stimulus at all. The next step in Wikidata development is that after the creation of an article, users get a message (pop-up, or screen, etc) in what they are asked to add the article/category to Wikidata. In the first stage this can be just a pop-up with a message. But it would be better if this can be a message + some help to do this, so that users can stay in Wikipedia (or another project), without having to go to Wikidata.
A further step that can be developed after is the suggestion of
properties
(if missing), like instance of, and based on this entry further
properties.
This will make sure that there is a better integration of Wikipedia and
her
sister projects with Wikidata through this workflow.
For this I created a Phabricator task at: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117070
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Hi,
We have tried it, but didn't work as in a small community this isn't doable.
Romaine
2015-10-29 21:59 GMT+01:00 WereSpielChequers werespielchequers@gmail.com:
Hi Romaine,
Having bots that list tasks that need doing is a great way to get things done. But you need to think carefully who you target this work at. We do have bots that tell editors when they've linked an article to a disambiguation page, there is some logic in that as the person who added the information is more likely to understand it and know which other article it really should be added to. But for general gnomish work like categorisation adding wikilinks and now migrating to wikidata, better I suggest to create some category and try to recruit gnomes to do that work en masse. Someone who creates a few dozen articles might not fancy learning about wikidata, but a gnome who specialises in it might do many times that amount of migration.
Remember the essence of crowd sourcing is to get lots of people to take on the parts of the task that they want to do.
WSC
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 12:04:58 -0700 From: Raymond Leonard raymond.f.leonard.jr@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Wikidata mailing list wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next step in the development Message-ID: <CAOTiT=NSKvRDjkKtN8ydDUavwC=uPb5= C3yWZeQ-rNQek6iaMQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Often I see or make additions to articles & then see hidden categories
like
Official Website not in Wikidata or Coordinates not in Wikidata, or the Authority Control data is in Wikidata but it has an LCCN parameter added
in
the template in Wikipedia. Are there any semi-automated tools that would facilitate moving such data into Wikidata when we encounter these things? How can we improve the workflow to aid the transfer of this data?
Yours, Peaceray
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Romaine Wiki romaine.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I think it is time for the next step in the Wikidata development: a
better
integration in Wikipedia and her sisterprojects.
Every day thousands of articles are created, and many of those are not added to Wikidata, even while often an item about this subject exists. Users forget to add a newly created article to Wikidata as there is no stimulus at all. The next step in Wikidata development is that after
the
creation of an article, users get a message (pop-up, or screen, etc) in what they are asked to add the article/category to Wikidata. In the
first
stage this can be just a pop-up with a message. But it would be better
if
this can be a message + some help to do this, so that users can stay in Wikipedia (or another project), without having to go to Wikidata.
A further step that can be developed after is the suggestion of
properties
(if missing), like instance of, and based on this entry further
properties.
This will make sure that there is a better integration of Wikipedia and
her
sister projects with Wikidata through this workflow.
For this I created a Phabricator task at: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117070
Thanks! Romaine _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:
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