Aside from the whole idea of a neutrality policy that thinks Wikipedia wasn't neutral on either Climate Change or Covid19, and a board that is 60% founders votes rather than the 9% of the WMF. Justapedia doesn't want breaking news of anything that has happened in the last 7 days. https://justapedia.org/wiki/Justapedia:Justapedia_Foundation#About
My prediction is that if the site does get any traction, and there are millions of antivaxxers and climate change deniers who might well prefer it to Wikipedia, the 7 day thing will bite them hard.
When famous people die, Wikipedia gets extra visitors to those pages. If Justapedia had been around at the time of Michael Jackson's death, or of Osama Bin Laden's, this policy alone would have led to conflict, or been quickly abandoned. Here in the UK there will be a General Election in the next 17 months, a large number of Wikipedia articles will be updated very quickly with the results, probably including a new Prime minister. If Justapedia is still around for the next UK General Election, and if it has taken even 1% of Wikipedia's audience and community, then either this policy will be abandoned or the people who enforce it will have to revert loads of edits by newbies. Justapedia may not want "thought police" and may aspire to be collegial "The Justapedia Foundation firmly believes in maintaining a collegial environment for our volunteers" https://justapedia.org/wiki/Justapedia:Justapedia_Foundation#Community but this policy alone will make them a non collegial place, even if they succeed in recruiting a community of people who share their views on Climate Change and Covid19.
I'm aware that there are deep tensions within our community, and not just between the on and off wiki components. I wasn't surprised to see a new fork come forth, and if the intent, remit and design had been different then I might well have created an account there and at the least had a foot in both camps. As it is, I can't see Justapedia becoming something I would like to donate my time to. But then I doubt they'd want me anyway given that I accept the science on Climate Change and Covid19..
WSC
Message: 7 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 12:00:44 +0100 From: David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Launch of Justapedia To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: < CAJ0tu1E48S9LLt-GUPhkPs0dRyiRNLeeeN0fAPESLqKCj7DsJw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
what do you expect from an encyclopedia founded by world-famous communist Jimmy Wales
-d.
On Tue, 12 Sept 2023 at 08:52, Vi to vituzzu.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Indeed Venn diagrams are a left-wing-woke-cancel-culture propaganda.
Vito
Il giorno mar 12 set 2023 alle ore 08:15 Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
galder158@hotmail.com> ha scritto:
The logo is quite funny. According to that Information + Disinformation
= Facts. It might be that they don't know what a Venn diagram is, or simply that they actually think that.
Don't worry, this is just one more project that will fall into oblivion.
Galder ________________________________ From: Lauren Worden laurenworden89@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 12:42 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Launch of Justapedia
The only specific and non-contradictory complaints about Wikipedia bias I can find on https://justapedia.org/wiki/Justapedia:Justapedia_Foundation are climate change and COVID-19, which are areas in which I think Wikipedia excels. The complaints about politics go in both directions.
Perhaps Atsme can clarify?
-LW
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 3:18 PM Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk
wrote:
On Sun, 10 Sept 2023, 14:31 Rey Bueno via Wikimedia-l, <
wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
Justapedia
It's laughable, as the logo [1] that (inadvertently,?) shows
"disinformation" and "lies" being given equal weight with "information" in determining "truth" suggests.
But this [2] hints at the darker underbelly:
"The Editorial Review Board (ERB) [...] will make binding decisions
regarding the retention and rejection of article content, as well as serve to resolve content disputes, and notability issues... ERB members are required to have a high level, native understanding of written English"
Besides, there are alarming rumors I saw in Y Combinator [...]
Oh, please. Do better than that.
[1] https://justapedia.org/wiki/File:Hands-circ-sifts-sources-Sm.png
[2] https://justapedia.org/wiki/Justapedia:Editorial_Review_Board
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