I can only speak for myself here, but I'm really not tied to my position :) If there is a clear signal from the wider community that I should step down, I will.
There aren't such signals, and FWIW I think there shouldn't be: while quite a few people (myself included) expressed disappointment with the BoT as a governing body, you are the only member to have frequently and openly shared thoughts and information with the community. FWIW, I do hope you stick around - there are turbulent times ahead.
I do suggest, however, that for us to emerge better from all this, an honest, independent and *transparent* inspection of the BoT should take place. Such an inspection needs to offer suggestions to improve Board formation and size, communication, transparency, and, well, accountability towards the Foundation *and* the community. Dariusz, I hope you stay onboard (...) and push for something like that.
One side note, directed at Pine: It's irresponsible (and *deeply* disrespectful) for anyone on this list to be calling for resignations publicly - either those of Trustees, WMF Executives or anyone else. Yes, many of us agree that change needs to happen but let's not lose sight of how a good change process needs to occur: with civility and humility, with transparency and honesty and while preserving the good values[1] that already exist in our Movement and in the Foundation.
Ido
Ido -
That was misattributed to Pine. That's a quote from my 2am Pacific time mail on this thread. The overly long one without a TLDR section at the top.
An approximate TLDR of the mail is that Lila's public statement articulates a vision and execution in progress of an intentionally destructive (to rebuild in another form) organizational shift, not an overly unusual change mechanism for tech organizations. The term of art is "breaking a few eggs".
My core argument was that a change was possibly or probably needed, and it is not clearly wrong to have done that here, but that doing so in the Wikimedia Foundation without communicating clearly what was being done and why is probably the worst possible organization to do it in. If the Board asked Lila to do that (not the change, but the destructive change without communications) it would have been a horrible error in the wider movement, a grave breach of trust.
If they did not intend that or did not understand what was happening it's a very serious communications or governance issue.
That does not mean "fire the board" but it may mean we need a board change to gain the experience, skills, and perspective to avoid doing that again.
Board and ex board hints so far are that they did not mean to do that, so it appears to be the latter case.
George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 22, 2016, at 2:18 PM, ido ivri idoivri@gmail.com wrote:
I can only speak for myself here, but I'm really not tied to my position :) If there is a clear signal from the wider community that I should step down, I will.
There aren't such signals, and FWIW I think there shouldn't be: while quite a few people (myself included) expressed disappointment with the BoT as a governing body, you are the only member to have frequently and openly shared thoughts and information with the community. FWIW, I do hope you stick around - there are turbulent times ahead.
I do suggest, however, that for us to emerge better from all this, an honest, independent and *transparent* inspection of the BoT should take place. Such an inspection needs to offer suggestions to improve Board formation and size, communication, transparency, and, well, accountability towards the Foundation *and* the community. Dariusz, I hope you stay onboard (...) and push for something like that.
One side note, directed at Pine: It's irresponsible (and *deeply* disrespectful) for anyone on this list to be calling for resignations publicly - either those of Trustees, WMF Executives or anyone else. Yes, many of us agree that change needs to happen but let's not lose sight of how a good change process needs to occur: with civility and humility, with transparency and honesty and while preserving the good values[1] that already exist in our Movement and in the Foundation.
Ido
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