In a message dated 11/7/2009 11:28:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, gerard.meijssen@gmail.com writes:
Please read it as an appeal to reply to foundation-l in moderation. Please read it as an appeal to post liberally to this list as we do not have an alternative.>>
Speaking of self-moderation., a google search on Foundation-l "gerard meijssen" shows
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a& rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=7zN&num=50&q=foundation-l+%22gerard+Meijssen%22&lr=& aq=f&oq=&aqi=
33,000 pages
Is there a way to create a chart showing how many messages each poster has posted to the list? Also Gerard I think if you're going to use an argument about the value of those people who *aren't* posting, we need to know who they are. Perhaps we don't want them to post either.
Until we get some hard facts on the issue, how is any decision supposed to be able to be reached?
W.J.
There is already a statistics page, http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/Index.html skype: node.ue
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:13 AM, WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 11/7/2009 11:28:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, gerard.meijssen@gmail.com writes:
Please read it as an appeal to reply to foundation-l in moderation. Please read it as an appeal to post liberally to this list as we do not have an alternative.>>
Speaking of self-moderation., a google search on Foundation-l "gerard meijssen" shows
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&
rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=7zN&num=50&q=foundation-l+%22gerard+Meijssen%22&lr=& aq=f&oq=&aqi=http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&%0Arls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=7zN&num=50&q=foundation-l+%22gerard+Meijssen%22&lr=&%0Aaq=f&oq=&aqi=
33,000 pages
Is there a way to create a chart showing how many messages each poster has posted to the list? Also Gerard I think if you're going to use an argument about the value of those people who *aren't* posting, we need to know who they are. Perhaps we don't want them to post either.
Until we get some hard facts on the issue, how is any decision supposed to be able to be reached?
W.J.
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Hoi, If you want statistics, you do not have to google ... there are our own statistics ... http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/_PowerPosters.html I am a power poster and that often does not feel good. However, it is beside the point.
I am on a conference and it is from people who are essential to this conference that I have this information. Now if you think that you need to pass judgement on this, you have a self centred world. That is very much part of the issue. The issue is that the context of the issue IS clear from my original post. I will not damage these people by naming them. Thanks, GerardM
2009/11/8 WJhonson@aol.com
In a message dated 11/7/2009 11:28:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, gerard.meijssen@gmail.com writes:
Please read it as an appeal to reply to foundation-l in moderation. Please read it as an appeal to post liberally to this list as we do not have an alternative.>>
Speaking of self-moderation., a google search on Foundation-l "gerard meijssen" shows
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&
rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=7zN&num=50&q=foundation-l+%22gerard+Meijssen%22&lr=& aq=f&oq=&aqi=http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&%0Arls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=7zN&num=50&q=foundation-l+%22gerard+Meijssen%22&lr=&%0Aaq=f&oq=&aqi=
33,000 pages
Is there a way to create a chart showing how many messages each poster has posted to the list? Also Gerard I think if you're going to use an argument about the value of those people who *aren't* posting, we need to know who they are. Perhaps we don't want them to post either.
Until we get some hard facts on the issue, how is any decision supposed to be able to be reached?
W.J.
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Gerard may post quite a bit, but in general his posts serve a purpose. Many people on this list seem to write just to see their words, that is to say, they seem repeat information and attempt to reply to every e-mail. This is not constructive and it is not conducive to the expansion of knowledge.
To be on the Power Poster list is a bad thing for some, but it is not a shameful thing by itself certainly. If you have a lot of useful things to say, that's not so bad.
Mark
skype: node.ue
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:29 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.comwrote:
Hoi, If you want statistics, you do not have to google ... there are our own statistics ... http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/_PowerPosters.html I am a power poster and that often does not feel good. However, it is beside the point.
I am on a conference and it is from people who are essential to this conference that I have this information. Now if you think that you need to pass judgement on this, you have a self centred world. That is very much part of the issue. The issue is that the context of the issue IS clear from my original post. I will not damage these people by naming them. Thanks, GerardM
2009/11/8 WJhonson@aol.com
In a message dated 11/7/2009 11:28:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, gerard.meijssen@gmail.com writes:
Please read it as an appeal to reply to foundation-l in moderation. Please read it as an appeal to post liberally to this list as we do not have
an
alternative.>>
Speaking of self-moderation., a google search on Foundation-l "gerard meijssen" shows
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&
rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=7zN&num=50&q=foundation-l+%22gerard+Meijssen%22&lr=&
aq=f&oq=&aqi=<
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&%0A...
33,000 pages
Is there a way to create a chart showing how many messages each poster
has
posted to the list? Also Gerard I think if you're going to use an
argument
about the value of those people who *aren't* posting, we need to know who they are. Perhaps we don't want them to post either.
Until we get some hard facts on the issue, how is any decision supposed
to
be able to be reached?
W.J.
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On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 5:13 AM, WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
Is there a way to create a chart showing how many messages each poster has posted to the list? Also Gerard I think if you're going to use an argument about the value of those people who *aren't* posting, we need to know who they are. Perhaps we don't want them to post either.
who *aren't* posting?
Well... we have a language barrier which makes everyone who does not feel comfortable with their level of English do not participate as much as they wanted. (myself included)
There are also people who do not have time to read mails so long as many here like to write.
And many are tired of reading childish and sterile discussions and call this list "a useless troll's nest".
Some change is needed.
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