On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
<nemowiki(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Christophe Henner, 21/12/2012 16:43:
Well, feels weird to see french as 1st priority frankly.
That's an old proposal meant to start a discussion, it gives some criteria.
That was based on primary/secondary language users and activity of
community, from a few years ago. Chinese, French, and Spanish do still
seem to open up access to the largest communities of people around the
world when one considers [second-language readers who don't read English as
a first/second language].
Other suggestions welcome, of course.
I don't see the point of the proposal. I'm
quite sure people are able to
use Google Translate themselves, and the Translate extension already
provides machine translation features. <http://laxstrom.name/blag/**
2012/09/07/translation-memory-**all-wikimedia-wikis/<http://laxstrom.name/blag/2012/09/07/translation-memory-all-wikimedia-wikis/>
Not to mention that /reading/ a document
is not enough to actively engage
in (the discussion about) it, someone should be listening...
Right. Starting with a good human translation of a thumbnail summary, no
longer than a paragraph, is a useful standard that lot of multilingual
communities / processes use.
Then readers can know whether they should start reading the full document,
and discussing it in theiir language; others who don't want to read a poor
translation but do want to discuss the topic can engage without themselves
reading the whole thing. This scales fairly well as long as 1-2 people are
willing to read in detail or know one of the languages into which the whole
has been thoroughly translated.
SJ
PS - Every time a topic like this comes up recently, I think about how
*totally wonderful*
the recent improvements in the translation toolchain we use are and make
translation by our community vastly easier than ie was even a year ago. We
no longer have to think in terms of using Google Translate; we can start to
build our own translation memory -- or more than one in focused topic
areas.