Kaya
Over the last 9 months the movement has really taken to the use of "zoom" style technology to hold and host events, I dont doubt they have been really productive in addressing the many needs of the community.
One thing I have noticed is just how many of these notices are coming through now with some meetings taking place not once but multiple times to ensure everyone has access to them in their best time period.
I know as volunteers we are able to pick and choose what we do, I also know we are placing a lot of pressure on affiliates to be upto date on all these events. I raise a concern that perhaps we as a community are starting to over do these meetings and stretch volunteer resources to point of breaking or being overwhelmed. I know that as WP20 approaches these meetings are going to accelerate and put greater demands on our limited resources.
I propose that the community has a quiet period from the 14 December to 5th January where we dont hold general meetings, webinars, cafes, and strategy discussions to give people time to refresh and focus on family. Obviously some small group focused community meetings will be necessary as part of WP20 and other preparations so I'm not suggesting ruling out all meetings just asking that we remember that there is life outside of the movement we should be allowing people time to focus on as well.
I think this is a really great idea. Zoom burnout is very real, and with the extra strategy meetings held over a wide time difference, I'm finding a lot of creep into personal time is increasingly an issue for me and those I collaborate with. It's been a heavy year all around, and factoring in a collective down time would signal to everyone that we all deserve time and space to rest, as best we can.
On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 at 03:11, Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:
Kaya
Over the last 9 months the movement has really taken to the use of "zoom" style technology to hold and host events, I dont doubt they have been really productive in addressing the many needs of the community.
One thing I have noticed is just how many of these notices are coming through now with some meetings taking place not once but multiple times to ensure everyone has access to them in their best time period.
I know as volunteers we are able to pick and choose what we do, I also know we are placing a lot of pressure on affiliates to be upto date on all these events. I raise a concern that perhaps we as a community are starting to over do these meetings and stretch volunteer resources to point of breaking or being overwhelmed. I know that as WP20 approaches these meetings are going to accelerate and put greater demands on our limited resources.
I propose that the community has a quiet period from the 14 December to 5th January where we dont hold general meetings, webinars, cafes, and strategy discussions to give people time to refresh and focus on family. Obviously some small group focused community meetings will be necessary as part of WP20 and other preparations so I'm not suggesting ruling out all meetings just asking that we remember that there is life outside of the movement we should be allowing people time to focus on as well.
-- Gnangarra
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As I feel this pressure and overwhelmingness on many of us, I totally agree and support this idea.
Camelia
On Mon, Nov 16, 2020, 3:57 PM Rebecca O'Neill rebeccanineil@gmail.com wrote:
I think this is a really great idea. Zoom burnout is very real, and with the extra strategy meetings held over a wide time difference, I'm finding a lot of creep into personal time is increasingly an issue for me and those I collaborate with. It's been a heavy year all around, and factoring in a collective down time would signal to everyone that we all deserve time and space to rest, as best we can.
On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 at 03:11, Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:
Kaya
Over the last 9 months the movement has really taken to the use of "zoom" style technology to hold and host events, I dont doubt they have been really productive in addressing the many needs of the community.
One thing I have noticed is just how many of these notices are coming through now with some meetings taking place not once but multiple times to ensure everyone has access to them in their best time period.
I know as volunteers we are able to pick and choose what we do, I also know we are placing a lot of pressure on affiliates to be upto date on all these events. I raise a concern that perhaps we as a community are starting to over do these meetings and stretch volunteer resources to point of breaking or being overwhelmed. I know that as WP20 approaches these meetings are going to accelerate and put greater demands on our limited resources.
I propose that the community has a quiet period from the 14 December to 5th January where we dont hold general meetings, webinars, cafes, and strategy discussions to give people time to refresh and focus on family. Obviously some small group focused community meetings will be necessary as part of WP20 and other preparations so I'm not suggesting ruling out all meetings just asking that we remember that there is life outside of the movement we should be allowing people time to focus on as well.
-- Gnangarra
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Hello Gnangarra,
I really like your sentiment and appreciate your effort to keep the community healthy. However, we should acknowledge that with the ongoing pandemic, not everyone is able to visit their families. Over the years a lot of friendships have been formed in our community as well. Being able to collaborate with them might be a very nice feeling for many.
So as a compromise, I suggest not to enforce a complete stop for online meetings, but rather just pause the kind of meetings where important decisions are being taken. Friendly meetups, chatting cafés or co-editing sessions might be just what is needed for many to stay in a positive state of mind. As long as they don't *require* people to join because their voice would not be heard on some matter I believe online meetings are just fine.
Warm regards Jan Ainali
Den mån 16 nov. 2020 kl 04:11 skrev Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com:
Kaya
Over the last 9 months the movement has really taken to the use of "zoom" style technology to hold and host events, I dont doubt they have been really productive in addressing the many needs of the community.
One thing I have noticed is just how many of these notices are coming through now with some meetings taking place not once but multiple times to ensure everyone has access to them in their best time period.
I know as volunteers we are able to pick and choose what we do, I also know we are placing a lot of pressure on affiliates to be upto date on all these events. I raise a concern that perhaps we as a community are starting to over do these meetings and stretch volunteer resources to point of breaking or being overwhelmed. I know that as WP20 approaches these meetings are going to accelerate and put greater demands on our limited resources.
I propose that the community has a quiet period from the 14 December to 5th January where we dont hold general meetings, webinars, cafes, and strategy discussions to give people time to refresh and focus on family. Obviously some small group focused community meetings will be necessary as part of WP20 and other preparations so I'm not suggesting ruling out all meetings just asking that we remember that there is life outside of the movement we should be allowing people time to focus on as well.
-- Gnangarra
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Kaya Jan
Yes I agree, I'm not asking for an absolute ban on all meetings, just that we give pause as and where possible.
Boodarwun
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 at 00:39, Jan Ainali jan@aina.li wrote:
Hello Gnangarra,
I really like your sentiment and appreciate your effort to keep the community healthy. However, we should acknowledge that with the ongoing pandemic, not everyone is able to visit their families. Over the years a lot of friendships have been formed in our community as well. Being able to collaborate with them might be a very nice feeling for many.
So as a compromise, I suggest not to enforce a complete stop for online meetings, but rather just pause the kind of meetings where important decisions are being taken. Friendly meetups, chatting cafés or co-editing sessions might be just what is needed for many to stay in a positive state of mind. As long as they don't *require* people to join because their voice would not be heard on some matter I believe online meetings are just fine.
Warm regards Jan Ainali
Den mån 16 nov. 2020 kl 04:11 skrev Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com:
Kaya
Over the last 9 months the movement has really taken to the use of "zoom" style technology to hold and host events, I dont doubt they have been really productive in addressing the many needs of the community.
One thing I have noticed is just how many of these notices are coming through now with some meetings taking place not once but multiple times to ensure everyone has access to them in their best time period.
I know as volunteers we are able to pick and choose what we do, I also know we are placing a lot of pressure on affiliates to be upto date on all these events. I raise a concern that perhaps we as a community are starting to over do these meetings and stretch volunteer resources to point of breaking or being overwhelmed. I know that as WP20 approaches these meetings are going to accelerate and put greater demands on our limited resources.
I propose that the community has a quiet period from the 14 December to 5th January where we dont hold general meetings, webinars, cafes, and strategy discussions to give people time to refresh and focus on family. Obviously some small group focused community meetings will be necessary as part of WP20 and other preparations so I'm not suggesting ruling out all meetings just asking that we remember that there is life outside of the movement we should be allowing people time to focus on as well.
-- Gnangarra
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Perhaps a way to think about it would be to pause meetings at which decisions are being made or "official" opinions are being collected, without expecting any pauses in more socially oriented meetings. So, perhaps an embargo on most WMF-sponsored meetings, as well as formal meetings of our constituent organizations and groups including committees and perhaps even chapter/user group committees; co-editing sessions, online meetups, chatting cafes, etc that are more social in orientation and are optional participation could quite easily continue, and may even be particularly beneficial for those who are socially isolated because of the ongoing efforts to reduce the impact of the current health crisis.
In reality, I expect that there's already a plan to put many if not all WMF-sponsored meetings/sessions on hold for a several-week break starting mid-December; this is a practice that has been in place for a couple of years, and I believe the WMF maintains only a skeleton crew for at least a week during that period.
Risker/Anne
On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 at 18:46, Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:
Kaya Jan
Yes I agree, I'm not asking for an absolute ban on all meetings, just that we give pause as and where possible.
Boodarwun
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 at 00:39, Jan Ainali jan@aina.li wrote:
Hello Gnangarra,
I really like your sentiment and appreciate your effort to keep the community healthy. However, we should acknowledge that with the ongoing pandemic, not everyone is able to visit their families. Over the years a lot of friendships have been formed in our community as well. Being able to collaborate with them might be a very nice feeling for many.
So as a compromise, I suggest not to enforce a complete stop for online meetings, but rather just pause the kind of meetings where important decisions are being taken. Friendly meetups, chatting cafés or co-editing sessions might be just what is needed for many to stay in a positive state of mind. As long as they don't *require* people to join because their voice would not be heard on some matter I believe online meetings are just fine.
Warm regards Jan Ainali
Den mån 16 nov. 2020 kl 04:11 skrev Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com:
Kaya
Over the last 9 months the movement has really taken to the use of "zoom" style technology to hold and host events, I dont doubt they have been really productive in addressing the many needs of the community.
One thing I have noticed is just how many of these notices are coming through now with some meetings taking place not once but multiple times to ensure everyone has access to them in their best time period.
I know as volunteers we are able to pick and choose what we do, I also know we are placing a lot of pressure on affiliates to be upto date on all these events. I raise a concern that perhaps we as a community are starting to over do these meetings and stretch volunteer resources to point of breaking or being overwhelmed. I know that as WP20 approaches these meetings are going to accelerate and put greater demands on our limited resources.
I propose that the community has a quiet period from the 14 December to 5th January where we dont hold general meetings, webinars, cafes, and strategy discussions to give people time to refresh and focus on family. Obviously some small group focused community meetings will be necessary as part of WP20 and other preparations so I'm not suggesting ruling out all meetings just asking that we remember that there is life outside of the movement we should be allowing people time to focus on as well.
-- Gnangarra
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https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments#Upcoming_Release_Train_disru... tends to provide a good idea of when WMF vacations are, since I've never seen a public calendar of them. The last two weeks of December (starting 21 December 2020) are marked as having no deployments, so I would expect most staff to be off for those weeks.
On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 7:35 PM Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps a way to think about it would be to pause meetings at which decisions are being made or "official" opinions are being collected, without expecting any pauses in more socially oriented meetings. So, perhaps an embargo on most WMF-sponsored meetings, as well as formal meetings of our constituent organizations and groups including committees and perhaps even chapter/user group committees; co-editing sessions, online meetups, chatting cafes, etc that are more social in orientation and are optional participation could quite easily continue, and may even be particularly beneficial for those who are socially isolated because of the ongoing efforts to reduce the impact of the current health crisis.
In reality, I expect that there's already a plan to put many if not all WMF-sponsored meetings/sessions on hold for a several-week break starting mid-December; this is a practice that has been in place for a couple of years, and I believe the WMF maintains only a skeleton crew for at least a week during that period.
Risker/Anne
On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 at 18:46, Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:
Kaya Jan
Yes I agree, I'm not asking for an absolute ban on all meetings, just that we give pause as and where possible.
Boodarwun
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 at 00:39, Jan Ainali jan@aina.li wrote:
Hello Gnangarra,
I really like your sentiment and appreciate your effort to keep the community healthy. However, we should acknowledge that with the ongoing pandemic, not everyone is able to visit their families. Over the years a lot of friendships have been formed in our community as well. Being able to collaborate with them might be a very nice feeling for many.
So as a compromise, I suggest not to enforce a complete stop for online meetings, but rather just pause the kind of meetings where important decisions are being taken. Friendly meetups, chatting cafés or co-editing sessions might be just what is needed for many to stay in a positive state of mind. As long as they don't *require* people to join because their voice would not be heard on some matter I believe online meetings are just fine.
Warm regards Jan Ainali
Den mån 16 nov. 2020 kl 04:11 skrev Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com:
Kaya
Over the last 9 months the movement has really taken to the use of "zoom" style technology to hold and host events, I dont doubt they have been really productive in addressing the many needs of the community.
One thing I have noticed is just how many of these notices are coming through now with some meetings taking place not once but multiple times to ensure everyone has access to them in their best time period.
I know as volunteers we are able to pick and choose what we do, I also know we are placing a lot of pressure on affiliates to be upto date on all these events. I raise a concern that perhaps we as a community are starting to over do these meetings and stretch volunteer resources to point of breaking or being overwhelmed. I know that as WP20 approaches these meetings are going to accelerate and put greater demands on our limited resources.
I propose that the community has a quiet period from the 14 December to 5th January where we dont hold general meetings, webinars, cafes, and strategy discussions to give people time to refresh and focus on family. Obviously some small group focused community meetings will be necessary as part of WP20 and other preparations so I'm not suggesting ruling out all meetings just asking that we remember that there is life outside of the movement we should be allowing people time to focus on as well.
-- Gnangarra
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Hi folks,
Thanks for this productive thread and suggestions!
In response to the emergent consensus, I want to confirm that we have reviewed planned events across the Foundation, and as far as we are aware, there are no Wikimedia Foundation-organized "decisionmaking" virtual events or official meetings planned between December 14th and January 5th.
There may be reminders to contribute to planned ongoing surveys through the end of December, such as the Community Tech wishlist survey (voting will be open Dec 8 - December 21), but there should be no planned "real-time" events.
Of course, teas, fikas, chatting cafés, co-editing sessions, and other social events are highly encouraged if folks feel so motivated and inspired!
My wishes to you and your loved ones to stay safe and well in this truly difficult moment.
Yours, Katherine
On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 7:35 PM Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps a way to think about it would be to pause meetings at which decisions are being made or "official" opinions are being collected, without expecting any pauses in more socially oriented meetings. So, perhaps an embargo on most WMF-sponsored meetings, as well as formal meetings of our constituent organizations and groups including committees and perhaps even chapter/user group committees; co-editing sessions, online meetups, chatting cafes, etc that are more social in orientation and are optional participation could quite easily continue, and may even be particularly beneficial for those who are socially isolated because of the ongoing efforts to reduce the impact of the current health crisis.
In reality, I expect that there's already a plan to put many if not all WMF-sponsored meetings/sessions on hold for a several-week break starting mid-December; this is a practice that has been in place for a couple of years, and I believe the WMF maintains only a skeleton crew for at least a week during that period.
Risker/Anne
On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 at 18:46, Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:
Kaya Jan
Yes I agree, I'm not asking for an absolute ban on all meetings, just that we give pause as and where possible.
Boodarwun
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 at 00:39, Jan Ainali jan@aina.li wrote:
Hello Gnangarra,
I really like your sentiment and appreciate your effort to keep the community healthy. However, we should acknowledge that with the ongoing pandemic, not everyone is able to visit their families. Over the years a lot of friendships have been formed in our community as well. Being able to collaborate with them might be a very nice feeling for many.
So as a compromise, I suggest not to enforce a complete stop for online meetings, but rather just pause the kind of meetings where important decisions are being taken. Friendly meetups, chatting cafés or co-editing sessions might be just what is needed for many to stay in a positive state of mind. As long as they don't *require* people to join because their voice would not be heard on some matter I believe online meetings are just fine.
Warm regards Jan Ainali
Den mån 16 nov. 2020 kl 04:11 skrev Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com:
Kaya
Over the last 9 months the movement has really taken to the use of "zoom" style technology to hold and host events, I dont doubt they have been really productive in addressing the many needs of the community.
One thing I have noticed is just how many of these notices are coming through now with some meetings taking place not once but multiple times to ensure everyone has access to them in their best time period.
I know as volunteers we are able to pick and choose what we do, I also know we are placing a lot of pressure on affiliates to be upto date on all these events. I raise a concern that perhaps we as a community are starting to over do these meetings and stretch volunteer resources to point of breaking or being overwhelmed. I know that as WP20 approaches these meetings are going to accelerate and put greater demands on our limited resources.
I propose that the community has a quiet period from the 14 December to 5th January where we dont hold general meetings, webinars, cafes, and strategy discussions to give people time to refresh and focus on family. Obviously some small group focused community meetings will be necessary as part of WP20 and other preparations so I'm not suggesting ruling out all meetings just asking that we remember that there is life outside of the movement we should be allowing people time to focus on as well.
-- Gnangarra
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Kaya Katherine
Thank you for looking into this, my deep appreciation to everyone at the WMF for helping to keep the community both safe and healthy during these exceptional times.
Stay safe everyone Gnangarra
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 06:27, Katherine Maher kmaher@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi folks,
Thanks for this productive thread and suggestions!
In response to the emergent consensus, I want to confirm that we have reviewed planned events across the Foundation, and as far as we are aware, there are no Wikimedia Foundation-organized "decisionmaking" virtual events or official meetings planned between December 14th and January 5th.
There may be reminders to contribute to planned ongoing surveys through the end of December, such as the Community Tech wishlist survey (voting will be open Dec 8 - December 21), but there should be no planned "real-time" events.
Of course, teas, fikas, chatting cafés, co-editing sessions, and other social events are highly encouraged if folks feel so motivated and inspired!
My wishes to you and your loved ones to stay safe and well in this truly difficult moment.
Yours, Katherine
On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 7:35 PM Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps a way to think about it would be to pause meetings at which decisions are being made or "official" opinions are being collected, without expecting any pauses in more socially oriented meetings. So, perhaps an embargo on most WMF-sponsored meetings, as well as formal meetings of our constituent organizations and groups including committees and perhaps even chapter/user group committees; co-editing sessions, online meetups, chatting cafes, etc that are more social in orientation and are optional participation could quite easily continue, and may even be particularly beneficial for those who are socially isolated because of the ongoing efforts to reduce the impact of the current health crisis.
In reality, I expect that there's already a plan to put many if not all WMF-sponsored meetings/sessions on hold for a several-week break starting mid-December; this is a practice that has been in place for a couple of years, and I believe the WMF maintains only a skeleton crew for at least a week during that period.
Risker/Anne
On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 at 18:46, Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:
Kaya Jan
Yes I agree, I'm not asking for an absolute ban on all meetings, just that we give pause as and where possible.
Boodarwun
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 at 00:39, Jan Ainali jan@aina.li wrote:
Hello Gnangarra,
I really like your sentiment and appreciate your effort to keep the community healthy. However, we should acknowledge that with the ongoing pandemic, not everyone is able to visit their families. Over the years a lot of friendships have been formed in our community as well. Being able to collaborate with them might be a very nice feeling for many.
So as a compromise, I suggest not to enforce a complete stop for online meetings, but rather just pause the kind of meetings where important decisions are being taken. Friendly meetups, chatting cafés or co-editing sessions might be just what is needed for many to stay in a positive state of mind. As long as they don't *require* people to join because their voice would not be heard on some matter I believe online meetings are just fine.
Warm regards Jan Ainali
Den mån 16 nov. 2020 kl 04:11 skrev Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com:
Kaya
Over the last 9 months the movement has really taken to the use of "zoom" style technology to hold and host events, I dont doubt they have been really productive in addressing the many needs of the community.
One thing I have noticed is just how many of these notices are coming through now with some meetings taking place not once but multiple times to ensure everyone has access to them in their best time period.
I know as volunteers we are able to pick and choose what we do, I also know we are placing a lot of pressure on affiliates to be upto date on all these events. I raise a concern that perhaps we as a community are starting to over do these meetings and stretch volunteer resources to point of breaking or being overwhelmed. I know that as WP20 approaches these meetings are going to accelerate and put greater demands on our limited resources.
I propose that the community has a quiet period from the 14 December to 5th January where we dont hold general meetings, webinars, cafes, and strategy discussions to give people time to refresh and focus on family. Obviously some small group focused community meetings will be necessary as part of WP20 and other preparations so I'm not suggesting ruling out all meetings just asking that we remember that there is life outside of the movement we should be allowing people time to focus on as well.
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