What I understood from the discussion. Two guys oppose it. They gave their reasons. Two
are in favour and both are administrators.
I think why the other people didn't talk much was because the few arguments that are
in Urdu literally made
it like everyone who is working on urdu wikipedia is not against Qur'an and if you are
not against Qur'an
then you shouldn't have any problem with this Sitenotice, and as long someone who
doesn't like Qur'an
is not part of the community, this should go on. The final point is that as no one is
getting angered
therefore this promotion of Islam should continue. This point was made on 8th of July.
After this there
is no discussion, and I think it is assumed that it is fine with everyone, therefore
continue
with this practice.
I can see why people didn't reply much. If you make this issue religious, like in
favour
or oppose of Qur'an then obviously people will be reluctant. I think the sitenotice
should
be removed. There is simply no point in it at all.
--heema
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From: Sean Whitton <sean(a)silentflame.com>
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l(a)wikimedia.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 5:57:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Quran in Sitenotice
You're absolutely right, the discussion should be raised over there,
and it appears that it already has. However, I don't quite understand
the comments of Heema - when you say that the discussion is over and
the decision has been made, do you mean that there was an overwhelming
argument or that someone with a level of authority stepped in? The
latter seems unlikely because theoretically there isn't anyone except
the board of a local arbcom that could do that, afaik. Could you
clarify this, please?
On 13/07/06, Robert Scott Horning <robert_horning(a)netzero.net> wrote:
Sean Whitton wrote:
In response to this I would say that #2 is the
most important pillar,
something which Jimbo used to quote on his userpage (this seems to
have gone now). I would agree with him because a projects as wide
reaching as the foundation's cannot prosper without this. We need to
keep things as open and accessible as possible and only through NPOV
can we encourage people to get involved. If I was a non-Muslim speaker
of Urdu, I can imagine being concerned that the site was heavily
orientated in that direction, which is not the idea. Referring to #1,
it's an encyclopedia and the only purpose of having different
languages is to allow others to read and edit, not to make any other
divisions.
But are you a non-Muslim speaker of Urdu who has complained and dealt
with this locally on the project? I'm not suggesting that you shouldn't
raise concerns, but a knee jerk reaction is also not called for if there
is a place to address this within the Urdu Wikipedia and getting active
users from within that project to deal with the issue. I just havn't
see what steps are being done from within the community to address the
issue. If you have tried to deal with this issue and admins are being
belligerant in keeping this sitenotice up, that would be a completely
different issue altogether. Even then, we are only getting one side of
this issue and assuming bad-faith.
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Robert Scott Horning
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