[Foundation-l] Elections in the pontic wikipedia - Wikimedia-l

Huib Laurens

27 Jan 27 Jan

3:38 p.m.

Hello, why should a wiki have a bureaucrat before it is created? A lot of small wikis doesn't have a crat and stewards will do the job. The same for admins, why not keep the test admins. I don't see why it is important to have admins before a wiki is created or has a comnunety. Best regards, -- Leave nothing but footprints, take nothing but pictures http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:SterkeBak

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Philippe|Wiki

4:13 p.m.

While we can always learn from best practices, I firmly believe it's best to leave local governance to local communities. If they want to have admins and crats, and have set up an election system with appropriate controls and a system of checks and balances, good for them. __________________ Philippe|Wiki philippe.wiki(a)gmail.com [[en:User:Philippe]] On Jan 27, 2009, at 9:38 AM, Huib Laurens wrote:

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Hello, why should a wiki have a bureaucrat before it is created? A lot of small wikis doesn't have a crat and stewards will do the job. The same for admins, why not keep the test admins. I don't see why it is important to have admins before a wiki is created or has a comnunety. Best regards, -- Leave nothing but footprints, take nothing but pictures http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:SterkeBak _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

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Dan Rosenthal

7:22 p.m.

This indeed. Good for them for dealing with these issues in advance rather than waiting until the need for a crat is critical. -Dan On Jan 27, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Muhammad Alsebaey wrote:

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+1 on them having their own crat and admins since they were approved, what possible harm could that have? they can always self-correct as the community gets bigger is the choices are not optimum. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Philippe|Wiki <philippe.wiki(a)gmail.com

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While we can always learn from best practices, I firmly believe it's best to leave local governance to local communities. If they want to have admins and crats, and have set up an election system with appropriate controls and a system of checks and balances, good for them. __________________ Philippe|Wiki philippe.wiki(a)gmail.com [[en:User:Philippe]] On Jan 27, 2009, at 9:38 AM, Huib Laurens wrote:

Hello, why should a wiki have a bureaucrat before it is created? A lot of small wikis doesn't have a crat and stewards will do the job. The same for admins, why not keep the test admins. I don't see why it is important to have admins before a wiki is created or has a comnunety. Best regards, -- Leave nothing but footprints, take nothing but pictures http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:SterkeBak _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

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Ziko van Dijk

10:07 p.m.

Sorry, I only later saw that the pontic Wikipedia is still not created. It would be not good to have non created Wikipedias in the list of Tell Us. Kind regards Ziko 2009/1/27 Zaharias Diakonikolaou <zadiak1993(a)gmail.com>

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Hello, The previous week, we the pontic wikipedia community arranged a meeting in our channel in IRC chat. There we thought that we should make elections in order to be prepared for the creation of the wiki and so we decided who would be the candidates for administrators and that we should also have a buro because we wanted to handle our issues on our own so we decided our candidate for bureacracy as well. P.S. As I saw that there has been a misunderstanding in what I said before we will ask for nomination AFTER the wiki will be created. Best wishes, ZaDiak 2009/1/27 Zaharias Diakonikolaou <zadiak1993(a)gmail.com>

The pontic wikipedia (which has been approved but it hasn't been created yet) is running elections to vote its admins and bureaucrats. This is

done

as a preparation for our creation, in order to be ready for the moment

when

we can finally start for real. Everyone who would like to vote is welcome to do so. The vote page is

http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/pnt/%CE%92%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%B9%CF%80%C…

Best wishes, ZaDiak

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