I'm sad to tell you that Frieda Brioschi has decided to step down from her position with the Wikimedia Board of Trustees. She informed the board of her decision over the weekend.
The board has no immediate plan to replace Frieda, so it will remain at seven members for the time being. I expect we will consider various options on whether and how to fill the vacancy at our next meeting, which is scheduled for October in San Francisco.
As was also the case with Florence, Frieda is not leaving us entirely, she will remain involved in the broader community. So on behalf of the board, I want to thank Frieda for her service to the organization, wish her the best, and look forward to future opportunities to work with her.
--Michael Snow
Not that I care, but any reason as to why that we should know about?
CM
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:21:35 -0700 From: wikipedia@verizon.net To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Foundation-l] Frieda Brioschi resigns from the Wikimedia Board of Trustees
I'm sad to tell you that Frieda Brioschi has decided to step down from her position with the Wikimedia Board of Trustees. She informed the board of her decision over the weekend.
The board has no immediate plan to replace Frieda, so it will remain at seven members for the time being. I expect we will consider various options on whether and how to fill the vacancy at our next meeting, which is scheduled for October in San Francisco.
As was also the case with Florence, Frieda is not leaving us entirely, she will remain involved in the broader community. So on behalf of the board, I want to thank Frieda for her service to the organization, wish her the best, and look forward to future opportunities to work with her.
--Michael Snow
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Christiano Moreschi wrote:
Not that I care, but any reason as to why that we should know about?
CM
On a project we all know, there is description of the membership life cycle for virtual communities
They suggest five types of trajectories amongst a learning community:
* Peripheral (i.e. Lurker) – An outside, unstructured participation
* Inbound (i.e. Novice) – Newcomer is invested in the community and heading towards full participation
* Insider (i.e. Regular) – Full committed community participant
* Boundary (i.e. Leader) – A leader, sustains membership participation and brokers interactions
* Outbound (i.e. Elder) – Process of leaving the community due to new relationships, new positions, new outlooks
That's an interesting article to read
Ant
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_community#Membership_life_cycle_for_vir...
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:21:35 -0700 From: wikipedia@verizon.net To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Foundation-l] Frieda Brioschi resigns from the Wikimedia Board of Trustees
I'm sad to tell you that Frieda Brioschi has decided to step down from her position with the Wikimedia Board of Trustees. She informed the board of her decision over the weekend.
The board has no immediate plan to replace Frieda, so it will remain at seven members for the time being. I expect we will consider various options on whether and how to fill the vacancy at our next meeting, which is scheduled for October in San Francisco.
As was also the case with Florence, Frieda is not leaving us entirely, she will remain involved in the broader community. So on behalf of the board, I want to thank Frieda for her service to the organization, wish her the best, and look forward to future opportunities to work with her.
--Michael Snow
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2008/9/9 Michael Snow wikipedia@verizon.net:
I'm sad to tell you that Frieda Brioschi has decided to step down from her position with the Wikimedia Board of Trustees. She informed the board of her decision over the weekend.
I'm sure we'll all be sad to see her go. She's served for over a year - she's done her time and I wish her well in her rehabilitation!
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Michael Snow wikipedia@verizon.net wrote: <snip>
I expect we will consider various options on whether and how to fill the vacancy at our next meeting, which is scheduled for October in San Francisco.
"various options"? well, it seems rather simple to me:
looking at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Board_of_Trustees/Restructure_Announceme... read * "Three seats elected by you, the community"
one of these now being vacant, new elections are called for imho...
all the best, oscar
I don't think it's quite that simple, Oscar.
The same announcement says: "Both the community-elected and chapter- selected seats have a duration of two years. These seats will expire in alternating years, which means that community-elected seats will be up for renewal on the July 1st 2009, 2011, and 2013, and chapter- selected seats will be up for renewal on July 1st 2010, 2012, 2014, etc."
It doesn't say anything about filling seats upon resignation or retirement.
A strict construction reading will not be helpful here, I think.
_____________________ Philippe Beaudette Tulsa, OK philippebeaudette@gmail.com
On Sep 9, 2008, at 8:33 PM, oscar van dillen wrote:
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Michael Snow wikipedia@verizon.net wrote:
<snip>
I expect we will consider various options on whether and how to fill the vacancy at our next meeting, which is scheduled for October in San Francisco.
"various options"? well, it seems rather simple to me:
looking at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Board_of_Trustees/Restructure_Announceme... read
- "Three seats elected by you, the community"
one of these now being vacant, new elections are called for imho...
all the best, oscar
-- *edito ergo sum*
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well, but i seem to recall a similar situation has occurred before?
all the best, oscar
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:52 AM, Philippe Beaudette < philippebeaudette@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think it's quite that simple, Oscar.
The same announcement says: "Both the community-elected and chapter- selected seats have a duration of two years. These seats will expire in alternating years, which means that community-elected seats will be up for renewal on the July 1st 2009, 2011, and 2013, and chapter- selected seats will be up for renewal on July 1st 2010, 2012, 2014, etc."
It doesn't say anything about filling seats upon resignation or retirement.
A strict construction reading will not be helpful here, I think.
Philippe Beaudette Tulsa, OK philippebeaudette@gmail.com
On Sep 9, 2008, at 8:33 PM, oscar van dillen wrote:
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Michael Snow wikipedia@verizon.net wrote:
<snip>
I expect we will consider various options on whether and how to fill the vacancy at our next meeting, which is scheduled for October in San Francisco.
"various options"? well, it seems rather simple to me:
looking at
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Board_of_Trustees/Restructure_Announceme...
read
- "Three seats elected by you, the community"
one of these now being vacant, new elections are called for imho...
all the best, oscar
-- *edito ergo sum*
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On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 10:06 PM, oscar van dillen < oscarvandillen@wikimedia.org> wrote:
well, but i seem to recall a similar situation has occurred before?
all the best, oscar
In July 2006, Angela Beesley resigned from her position. Elections were held in September 2006, and the winner (Erik Möller) served out the rest of Angela's term, standing for re-election 8 months later.
In October 2007, Michael Davis resigned. His was not a community position, and he was effectively replaced by Domas Mituzas in February 2008.
In December 2007, Erik Möller resigned. His position was filled by the Board in February 2008; they chose Michael Snow, who had run in the previous Board elections and finished 25 votes (~0.6%) short of a seat.
For a case like this, where elections will be held in June 2009 anyway, I don't mind the Board choosing either to temporarily fill the seat with a community member, or leave it vacant. I think if someone were to resign just a few months into their term, an off-year election might be worth considering, but there's no reason to hurry into an election. Precedent seems to be that if the term is close to expiring, it's merely filled (Erik's seat), but if the term has a year or so left, an off-year election has been held (Angela's seat)
If we were to hold an election, it wouldn't give the new board member much time in their seat. Looking at prior elections, the fastest we could conceivably get a new election completed by is probably mid-to-late November, with the winner being certified at the November/December meeting, and attending their first Board meeting in January 2009.
seeing now that the timing is actually between the first and third case you mention, i understand your point.
thanks and grtz, oscar
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:26 AM, Ral315 wiki.ral315@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 10:06 PM, oscar van dillen < oscarvandillen@wikimedia.org> wrote:
well, but i seem to recall a similar situation has occurred before?
all the best, oscar
In July 2006, Angela Beesley resigned from her position. Elections were held in September 2006, and the winner (Erik Möller) served out the rest of Angela's term, standing for re-election 8 months later.
In October 2007, Michael Davis resigned. His was not a community position, and he was effectively replaced by Domas Mituzas in February 2008.
In December 2007, Erik Möller resigned. His position was filled by the Board in February 2008; they chose Michael Snow, who had run in the previous Board elections and finished 25 votes (~0.6%) short of a seat.
For a case like this, where elections will be held in June 2009 anyway, I don't mind the Board choosing either to temporarily fill the seat with a community member, or leave it vacant. I think if someone were to resign just a few months into their term, an off-year election might be worth considering, but there's no reason to hurry into an election. Precedent seems to be that if the term is close to expiring, it's merely filled (Erik's seat), but if the term has a year or so left, an off-year election has been held (Angela's seat)
If we were to hold an election, it wouldn't give the new board member much time in their seat. Looking at prior elections, the fastest we could conceivably get a new election completed by is probably mid-to-late November, with the winner being certified at the November/December meeting, and attending their first Board meeting in January 2009.
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On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Philippe Beaudette philippebeaudette@gmail.com wrote:
It doesn't say anything about filling seats upon resignation or retirement.
Methinks something so basic ought to be provided for somewhere, if it is not already.
2008/9/10 Stephen Bain stephen.bain@gmail.com:
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Philippe Beaudette philippebeaudette@gmail.com wrote:
It doesn't say anything about filling seats upon resignation or retirement.
Methinks something so basic ought to be provided for somewhere, if it is not already.
I'd always assumed the board would fill empty seats until the next election - if it doesn't actually say that anywhere, it should. I don't see much point holding a by-election, it's a lot of hassle for a few months on the board.
Stephen Bain wrote:
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Philippe Beaudette philippebeaudette@gmail.com wrote:
It doesn't say anything about filling seats upon resignation or retirement.
Methinks something so basic ought to be provided for somewhere, if it is not already.
Like in the basic governing document of the organization, the bylaws. Which indicate that the board has always had the power to fill vacancies. As was mentioned, in the past it has taken several different approaches to this, depending on the circumstances. Since we haven't yet seriously discussed what to do with this one, I didn't want to presume anything, hence "various options".
--Michael Snow
Leaving the community even less able to express themselves to the board is certainly far less helpful. I too support immediate (as immediate as something that requires planning can be) elections.
-Dan On Sep 9, 2008, at 9:52 PM, Philippe Beaudette wrote:
I don't think it's quite that simple, Oscar.
The same announcement says: "Both the community-elected and chapter- selected seats have a duration of two years. These seats will expire in alternating years, which means that community-elected seats will be up for renewal on the July 1st 2009, 2011, and 2013, and chapter- selected seats will be up for renewal on July 1st 2010, 2012, 2014, etc."
It doesn't say anything about filling seats upon resignation or retirement.
A strict construction reading will not be helpful here, I think.
Philippe Beaudette Tulsa, OK philippebeaudette@gmail.com
On Sep 9, 2008, at 8:33 PM, oscar van dillen wrote:
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Michael Snow wikipedia@verizon.net wrote:
<snip>
I expect we will consider various options on whether and how to fill the vacancy at our next meeting, which is scheduled for October in San Francisco.
"various options"? well, it seems rather simple to me:
looking at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Board_of_Trustees/Restructure_Announceme... read
- "Three seats elected by you, the community"
one of these now being vacant, new elections are called for imho...
all the best, oscar
-- *edito ergo sum*
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Dear all, my delay in writing this email is one of the reason of my resignation. I decided to step down from the board for essentially two kinds of reasons: personal and related to the position. Personal: since July 07 (when I was elected) I changed first city then job, and my new job is very time consuming. I couldn't take part in the last two "physical" board meetings (one was during Wikimania!) and sometimes to IRC meeting too. A small advise to future candidate: please consider that a 3 days meeting often needs 2 additional days of travel.. Related to the position: I have the strong sensation that I spent a lot of time in concluding nothing, as I wrote in my email to the board, I was totally unable to find my dimension and a way to cooperate with all the members. I still don't know which is exactely the role of a WMF board member: donation? budget? audit? I'm strongly interested in project, chapter.. perhaps I was unavalaible when these points were in discussion.
So.. I thought it was more honest leaving my seat to someone else.
Frieda ___________________________________________ http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Frieda
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Frieda Brioschi ubifrieda@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all, my delay in writing this email is one of the reason of my resignation. I decided to step down from the board for essentially two kinds of reasons: personal and related to the position. Personal: since July 07 (when I was elected) I changed first city then job, and my new job is very time consuming. I couldn't take part in the last two "physical" board meetings (one was during Wikimania!) and sometimes to IRC meeting too. A small advise to future candidate: please consider that a 3 days meeting often needs 2 additional days of travel.. Related to the position: I have the strong sensation that I spent a lot of time in concluding nothing, as I wrote in my email to the board, I was totally unable to find my dimension and a way to cooperate with all the members. I still don't know which is exactely the role of a WMF board member: donation? budget? audit? I'm strongly interested in project, chapter.. perhaps I was unavalaible when these points were in discussion.
So.. I thought it was more honest leaving my seat to someone else.
Frieda
Frieda,
Thank you for the thoughtful and honest explanation.
All the best,
Sydney
on 9/14/08 1:23 PM, Frieda Brioschi at ubifrieda@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all, my delay in writing this email is one of the reason of my resignation. I decided to step down from the board for essentially two kinds of reasons: personal and related to the position. Personal: since July 07 (when I was elected) I changed first city then job, and my new job is very time consuming. I couldn't take part in the last two "physical" board meetings (one was during Wikimania!) and sometimes to IRC meeting too. A small advise to future candidate: please consider that a 3 days meeting often needs 2 additional days of travel.. Related to the position: I have the strong sensation that I spent a lot of time in concluding nothing, as I wrote in my email to the board, I was totally unable to find my dimension and a way to cooperate with all the members. I still don't know which is exactely the role of a WMF board member: donation? budget? audit? I'm strongly interested in project, chapter.. perhaps I was unavalaible when these points were in discussion.
So.. I thought it was more honest leaving my seat to someone else.
Frieda
Thank you for this, Frieda. I wish you well.
Be healthy,
Marc Riddell
Thank you.
I assume that this is the full story, and Kelly Martin's posts to http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=20323 are so much irresponsible scuttlebutt I should just ignore?
CM
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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:23:42 +0200 From: ubifrieda@gmail.com To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Frieda Brioschi resigns from the Wikimedia Board of Trustees
Dear all, my delay in writing this email is one of the reason of my resignation. I decided to step down from the board for essentially two kinds of reasons: personal and related to the position. Personal: since July 07 (when I was elected) I changed first city then job, and my new job is very time consuming. I couldn't take part in the last two "physical" board meetings (one was during Wikimania!) and sometimes to IRC meeting too. A small advise to future candidate: please consider that a 3 days meeting often needs 2 additional days of travel.. Related to the position: I have the strong sensation that I spent a lot of time in concluding nothing, as I wrote in my email to the board, I was totally unable to find my dimension and a way to cooperate with all the members. I still don't know which is exactely the role of a WMF board member: donation? budget? audit? I'm strongly interested in project, chapter.. perhaps I was unavalaible when these points were in discussion.
So.. I thought it was more honest leaving my seat to someone else.
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On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Christiano Moreschi < moreschiwikiman@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Thank you.
I assume that this is the full story, and Kelly Martin's posts to http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=20323 are so much irresponsible scuttlebutt I should just ignore?
That crazy Kelly Martin, always trying to create trouble. Kicking out the "modest" and "frugal" Jimmy Wales and putting the "disgruntled" "troll" Danny on the board? It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so blasphemous.
hmm, thanks for the link. It's always nice to have a good laugh.
Lodewijk
2008/9/14 Christiano Moreschi moreschiwikiman@hotmail.co.uk
Thank you.
I assume that this is the full story, and Kelly Martin's posts to http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=20323 are so much irresponsible scuttlebutt I should just ignore?
CM
Odi profanum vulgus et arceo.
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:23:42 +0200 From: ubifrieda@gmail.com To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Frieda Brioschi resigns from the Wikimedia
Board of Trustees
Dear all, my delay in writing this email is one of the reason of my resignation. I decided to step down from the board for essentially two kinds of reasons: personal and related to the position. Personal: since July 07 (when I was elected) I changed first city then job, and my new job is very time consuming. I couldn't take part in the last two "physical" board meetings (one was during Wikimania!) and sometimes to IRC meeting too. A small advise to future candidate: please consider that a 3 days meeting often needs 2 additional days of travel.. Related to the position: I have the strong sensation that I spent a lot of time in concluding nothing, as I wrote in my email to the board, I was totally unable to find my dimension and a way to cooperate with all the members. I still don't know which is exactely the role of a WMF board member: donation? budget? audit? I'm strongly interested in project, chapter.. perhaps I was unavalaible when these points were in discussion.
So.. I thought it was more honest leaving my seat to someone else.
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