Hi everyone,
We’re in week 4 of community conversations about the movement strategy recommendations. Thank you to everyone who has already taken part. The community conversations will continue until Friday, February 21 - you can get involved on Meta[1] in Arabic, English, French, German, Hindi, Spanish, and Portuguese, strategize with your community or organization, or send the core team your feedback to strategy2030@wikimedia.org.
This current round of community conversations is the last opportunity to suggest improvements to the recommendations. They will be finalized before the end of March, and then published for the movement to understand them, reflect on what they mean in their project, local, or thematic context, and move into implementation.
== Movement feedback: what happens next == All feedback is being collected, reviewed and analyzed on an ongoing basis. Here are the next steps after February 21:
* Week commencing February 24: the core team will summarize all the feedback received in a report. You are welcome to continue commenting and discussing during this time, but the discussions will not be as closely facilitated and documented.
* Week commencing March 2: the core team will publish the above report on Meta to give the movement an opportunity to review the content and give feedback as to whether it accurately reflects their input. The closing date for this is March 6. This summary report will then be finalized and published.
In mid-March, the feedback from the Board of Trustees, movement conversations and reviewers' input will be considered in the creation of the final, improved set of recommendations. A rationale for things that have not been considered will be provided, too. Our aim is to have the recommendations finalized and published in late March. More about the actual integration work coming soon.
== Video and podcast about our work; one-pager == Members of the core team - Tanveer Hasan, Information and Knowledge Liaison, and Mehrdad Pourzaki, Information and Knowledge Manager - recently held a presentation about all the recommendations at the Wikimedia Foundation All Hands. They provide a quick, concise overview of every recommendation and also some insight into how each was developed. Video of the presentation [2] and the presentation slides [3] are now on Commons.
Jan Ainali has interviewed me for his podcast Wikipedia Podden. I’m speaking with him about the past, present and future of movement strategy[4].
The one-pager created by Andrew Lih (User:Fuzheado) has been very popular. Again, a big thank you to Andrew for putting this together. In addition to Arabic, English, and Hindi versions, it is now also available in Farsi [5, 6].
== Meeting notes from the office hours == We have published a condensed summary of the meeting notes [7] from the office hours that were held by the core team on Thursday, January 30. The notes provide an overview of the key points and questions that were raised during the two calls as well as summaries of the responses.
== Do you have further questions? == Members of the core team will join the upcoming Wikimedia Café on February 15 [8], which will focus on the movement strategy recommendations. The Wikimedia Café is a community-led meeting hosted by User:Pine and User:Bluerasberry, and we are happy to take part and help answer any questions people may have about the recommendations. Additionally, if you are looking for more information about any of the above topics or about the movement strategy in general, take a look at our FAQ section [9].
Happy weekend, Nicole
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen... [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_movement_strategy_recommen... [3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Movement_Strategy_at_WM... [4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WP_72_-_Wikimedia_2030,_a_strategy_i... [5] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:One-page_overview_of_the_first_versi... [6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D9%85%D9%84%D8%AE%D9%91%D8%B5_%D8%A... [7] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Reports/... [8] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Caf%C3%A9 [9] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Frequent...
Thanks for this great plan of action or policy designed to achieve a major or overall aim - regarding the sum of all knowledge. I enjoyed your podcast - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WP_72_-_Wikimedia_2030,_a_strategy_i... - in particular. (Seems like in the 'united states of whatebber' per your Twitter photo, Nicole - https://twitter.com/antischokke - that tactics, by way of comparison, have been very significant thus far in the Wikimedia movement).
(In that CC-4 MIT OCW-centric wiki World University & School donated itself to Wikidata in 2015, and received WUaS Miraheze MediaWiki in 2017 as a consequence, am curious if WUaS would be considered an affiliate per these email addressees above, or what?)
I have questions relating mostly to "the sum of all knowledge" goal of Wikipedia -
epistemology questions - How does or will Wikimedia / Wikipedia / Wikidata approach academic knowledge, eg in the ~32 departments in MIT OCW, for example, in particular, in this strategizing - and per information technology as a new aspect of knowledge generation?
linguistic questions - How will Wikidata approach its ~300 languages in becoming a platform for academic linguistic departments, and regarding the sum of all knowledge (and eventually all 7,111 known living languages)? ... and also regarding the Wikidata lexicographical project.
questions, brainstorming and knowledge-wise, about 'ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy' as a new social science and STEM method ... how could Wikipedians and others begin to develop this wiki project in the Wikidata / Wikimedia ecosystem?
questions about planning for all 7.5 billion people in first 300 languages, and then in all 7,111 known living languages, as Wikipedia wiki editors, curators, knowledge generators? It seems that these potentially 7.5 billion people on the planet earth are most remarkable as generators of "the sum of knowledge." How is Wikipedia planning for all these 'knowledge generators'?
Thanks, Scott (see blog 'label' regarding 'ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy' in this blog - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/02/keyhole-sand-dollar-agenda-and-mi... )
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:44 AM Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hi everyone,
We’re in week 4 of community conversations about the movement strategy recommendations. Thank you to everyone who has already taken part. The community conversations will continue until Friday, February 21 - you can get involved on Meta[1] in Arabic, English, French, German, Hindi, Spanish, and Portuguese, strategize with your community or organization, or send the core team your feedback to strategy2030@wikimedia.org.
This current round of community conversations is the last opportunity to suggest improvements to the recommendations. They will be finalized before the end of March, and then published for the movement to understand them, reflect on what they mean in their project, local, or thematic context, and move into implementation.
== Movement feedback: what happens next == All feedback is being collected, reviewed and analyzed on an ongoing basis. Here are the next steps after February 21:
- Week commencing February 24: the core team will summarize all the
feedback received in a report. You are welcome to continue commenting and discussing during this time, but the discussions will not be as closely facilitated and documented.
- Week commencing March 2: the core team will publish the above report
on Meta to give the movement an opportunity to review the content and give feedback as to whether it accurately reflects their input. The closing date for this is March 6. This summary report will then be finalized and published.
In mid-March, the feedback from the Board of Trustees, movement conversations and reviewers' input will be considered in the creation of the final, improved set of recommendations. A rationale for things that have not been considered will be provided, too. Our aim is to have the recommendations finalized and published in late March. More about the actual integration work coming soon.
== Video and podcast about our work; one-pager == Members of the core team - Tanveer Hasan, Information and Knowledge Liaison, and Mehrdad Pourzaki, Information and Knowledge Manager - recently held a presentation about all the recommendations at the Wikimedia Foundation All Hands. They provide a quick, concise overview of every recommendation and also some insight into how each was developed. Video of the presentation [2] and the presentation slides [3] are now on Commons.
Jan Ainali has interviewed me for his podcast Wikipedia Podden. I’m speaking with him about the past, present and future of movement strategy[4].
The one-pager created by Andrew Lih (User:Fuzheado) has been very popular. Again, a big thank you to Andrew for putting this together. In addition to Arabic, English, and Hindi versions, it is now also available in Farsi [5, 6].
== Meeting notes from the office hours == We have published a condensed summary of the meeting notes [7] from the office hours that were held by the core team on Thursday, January 30. The notes provide an overview of the key points and questions that were raised during the two calls as well as summaries of the responses.
== Do you have further questions? == Members of the core team will join the upcoming Wikimedia Café on February 15 [8], which will focus on the movement strategy recommendations. The Wikimedia Café is a community-led meeting hosted by User:Pine and User:Bluerasberry, and we are happy to take part and help answer any questions people may have about the recommendations. Additionally, if you are looking for more information about any of the above topics or about the movement strategy in general, take a look at our FAQ section [9].
Happy weekend, Nicole
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen... [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_movement_strategy_recommen... [3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Movement_Strategy_at_WM... [4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WP_72_-_Wikimedia_2030,_a_strategy_i... [5] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:One-page_overview_of_the_first_versi... [6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D9%85%D9%84%D8%AE%D9%91%D8%B5_%D8%A... [7] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Reports/... [8] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Caf%C3%A9 [9] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Frequent...
-- Nicole Ebber Leiterin Internationale Beziehungen Program Manager Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 https://wikimedia.de
Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der Menschheit teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei! https://spenden.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
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Hello Nicole,
The second video seems to be incomplete. There are, for example, several jump cuts, e.g., at 05:07, 11:08, 17:08, 22:31, etc. At 11:14 the presenters invite questions or comments, and at 41:32 someone is clearly being called upon to offer one, but they are not shown in the video. Could you please provide a link to the entire video without cuts, including any questions or comments and the responses to them?
Todd
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 10:45 AM Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hi everyone,
We’re in week 4 of community conversations about the movement strategy recommendations. Thank you to everyone who has already taken part. The community conversations will continue until Friday, February 21 - you can get involved on Meta[1] in Arabic, English, French, German, Hindi, Spanish, and Portuguese, strategize with your community or organization, or send the core team your feedback to strategy2030@wikimedia.org.
This current round of community conversations is the last opportunity to suggest improvements to the recommendations. They will be finalized before the end of March, and then published for the movement to understand them, reflect on what they mean in their project, local, or thematic context, and move into implementation.
== Movement feedback: what happens next == All feedback is being collected, reviewed and analyzed on an ongoing basis. Here are the next steps after February 21:
- Week commencing February 24: the core team will summarize all the
feedback received in a report. You are welcome to continue commenting and discussing during this time, but the discussions will not be as closely facilitated and documented.
- Week commencing March 2: the core team will publish the above report
on Meta to give the movement an opportunity to review the content and give feedback as to whether it accurately reflects their input. The closing date for this is March 6. This summary report will then be finalized and published.
In mid-March, the feedback from the Board of Trustees, movement conversations and reviewers' input will be considered in the creation of the final, improved set of recommendations. A rationale for things that have not been considered will be provided, too. Our aim is to have the recommendations finalized and published in late March. More about the actual integration work coming soon.
== Video and podcast about our work; one-pager == Members of the core team - Tanveer Hasan, Information and Knowledge Liaison, and Mehrdad Pourzaki, Information and Knowledge Manager - recently held a presentation about all the recommendations at the Wikimedia Foundation All Hands. They provide a quick, concise overview of every recommendation and also some insight into how each was developed. Video of the presentation [2] and the presentation slides [3] are now on Commons.
Jan Ainali has interviewed me for his podcast Wikipedia Podden. I’m speaking with him about the past, present and future of movement strategy[4].
The one-pager created by Andrew Lih (User:Fuzheado) has been very popular. Again, a big thank you to Andrew for putting this together. In addition to Arabic, English, and Hindi versions, it is now also available in Farsi [5, 6].
== Meeting notes from the office hours == We have published a condensed summary of the meeting notes [7] from the office hours that were held by the core team on Thursday, January 30. The notes provide an overview of the key points and questions that were raised during the two calls as well as summaries of the responses.
== Do you have further questions? == Members of the core team will join the upcoming Wikimedia Café on February 15 [8], which will focus on the movement strategy recommendations. The Wikimedia Café is a community-led meeting hosted by User:Pine and User:Bluerasberry, and we are happy to take part and help answer any questions people may have about the recommendations. Additionally, if you are looking for more information about any of the above topics or about the movement strategy in general, take a look at our FAQ section [9].
Happy weekend, Nicole
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen... [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_movement_strategy_recommen... [3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Movement_Strategy_at_WM... [4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WP_72_-_Wikimedia_2030,_a_strategy_i... [5] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:One-page_overview_of_the_first_versi... [6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D9%85%D9%84%D8%AE%D9%91%D8%B5_%D8%A... [7] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Reports/... [8] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Caf%C3%A9 [9] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Frequent...
-- Nicole Ebber Leiterin Internationale Beziehungen Program Manager Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 https://wikimedia.de
Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der Menschheit teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei! https://spenden.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
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Hello Todd,
Thanks for your question. The video is indeed incomplete. We cut if for the viewer's comfort, as the original version is ~60 mins long, and has questions and interaction with the audience at All Hands. Our main objective for this video was to focus on conveying the broad context and content of each recommendation in a quick and accessible way, without putting too much emphasis on specific recommendations or details.
We'll look into whether the dialogues offer additional clarity. We might also have to identify those who have asked the questions and get their consent to publish. That can take a couple of days, so please stay tuned.
Best wishes, Nicole
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 21:25, Todd Allen toddmallen@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Nicole,
The second video seems to be incomplete. There are, for example, several jump cuts, e.g., at 05:07, 11:08, 17:08, 22:31, etc. At 11:14 the presenters invite questions or comments, and at 41:32 someone is clearly being called upon to offer one, but they are not shown in the video. Could you please provide a link to the entire video without cuts, including any questions or comments and the responses to them?
Todd
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 10:45 AM Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hi everyone,
We’re in week 4 of community conversations about the movement strategy recommendations. Thank you to everyone who has already taken part. The community conversations will continue until Friday, February 21 - you can get involved on Meta[1] in Arabic, English, French, German, Hindi, Spanish, and Portuguese, strategize with your community or organization, or send the core team your feedback to strategy2030@wikimedia.org.
This current round of community conversations is the last opportunity to suggest improvements to the recommendations. They will be finalized before the end of March, and then published for the movement to understand them, reflect on what they mean in their project, local, or thematic context, and move into implementation.
== Movement feedback: what happens next == All feedback is being collected, reviewed and analyzed on an ongoing basis. Here are the next steps after February 21:
- Week commencing February 24: the core team will summarize all the
feedback received in a report. You are welcome to continue commenting and discussing during this time, but the discussions will not be as closely facilitated and documented.
- Week commencing March 2: the core team will publish the above report
on Meta to give the movement an opportunity to review the content and give feedback as to whether it accurately reflects their input. The closing date for this is March 6. This summary report will then be finalized and published.
In mid-March, the feedback from the Board of Trustees, movement conversations and reviewers' input will be considered in the creation of the final, improved set of recommendations. A rationale for things that have not been considered will be provided, too. Our aim is to have the recommendations finalized and published in late March. More about the actual integration work coming soon.
== Video and podcast about our work; one-pager == Members of the core team - Tanveer Hasan, Information and Knowledge Liaison, and Mehrdad Pourzaki, Information and Knowledge Manager - recently held a presentation about all the recommendations at the Wikimedia Foundation All Hands. They provide a quick, concise overview of every recommendation and also some insight into how each was developed. Video of the presentation [2] and the presentation slides [3] are now on Commons.
Jan Ainali has interviewed me for his podcast Wikipedia Podden. I’m speaking with him about the past, present and future of movement strategy[4].
The one-pager created by Andrew Lih (User:Fuzheado) has been very popular. Again, a big thank you to Andrew for putting this together. In addition to Arabic, English, and Hindi versions, it is now also available in Farsi [5, 6].
== Meeting notes from the office hours == We have published a condensed summary of the meeting notes [7] from the office hours that were held by the core team on Thursday, January 30. The notes provide an overview of the key points and questions that were raised during the two calls as well as summaries of the responses.
== Do you have further questions? == Members of the core team will join the upcoming Wikimedia Café on February 15 [8], which will focus on the movement strategy recommendations. The Wikimedia Café is a community-led meeting hosted by User:Pine and User:Bluerasberry, and we are happy to take part and help answer any questions people may have about the recommendations. Additionally, if you are looking for more information about any of the above topics or about the movement strategy in general, take a look at our FAQ section [9].
Happy weekend, Nicole
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen... [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_movement_strategy_recommen... [3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Movement_Strategy_at_WM... [4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WP_72_-_Wikimedia_2030,_a_strategy_i... [5] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:One-page_overview_of_the_first_versi... [6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D9%85%D9%84%D8%AE%D9%91%D8%B5_%D8%A... [7] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Reports/... [8] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Caf%C3%A9 [9] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Frequent...
-- Nicole Ebber Leiterin Internationale Beziehungen Program Manager Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 https://wikimedia.de
Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der Menschheit teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei! https://spenden.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
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Hello again,
I now realised that none of the participants in the audience was aware of us recording them, and that we aren't able to identify them to ask for their consent. We are not going to release the full video, but are of course happy to answer potential questions and create more clarity where needed.
Best wishes, Nicole
On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 11:30, Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hello Todd,
Thanks for your question. The video is indeed incomplete. We cut if for the viewer's comfort, as the original version is ~60 mins long, and has questions and interaction with the audience at All Hands. Our main objective for this video was to focus on conveying the broad context and content of each recommendation in a quick and accessible way, without putting too much emphasis on specific recommendations or details.
We'll look into whether the dialogues offer additional clarity. We might also have to identify those who have asked the questions and get their consent to publish. That can take a couple of days, so please stay tuned.
Best wishes, Nicole
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 21:25, Todd Allen toddmallen@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Nicole,
The second video seems to be incomplete. There are, for example, several jump cuts, e.g., at 05:07, 11:08, 17:08, 22:31, etc. At 11:14 the presenters invite questions or comments, and at 41:32 someone is clearly being called upon to offer one, but they are not shown in the video. Could you please provide a link to the entire video without cuts, including any questions or comments and the responses to them?
Todd
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 10:45 AM Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hi everyone,
We’re in week 4 of community conversations about the movement strategy recommendations. Thank you to everyone who has already taken part. The community conversations will continue until Friday, February 21 - you can get involved on Meta[1] in Arabic, English, French, German, Hindi, Spanish, and Portuguese, strategize with your community or organization, or send the core team your feedback to strategy2030@wikimedia.org.
This current round of community conversations is the last opportunity to suggest improvements to the recommendations. They will be finalized before the end of March, and then published for the movement to understand them, reflect on what they mean in their project, local, or thematic context, and move into implementation.
== Movement feedback: what happens next == All feedback is being collected, reviewed and analyzed on an ongoing basis. Here are the next steps after February 21:
- Week commencing February 24: the core team will summarize all the
feedback received in a report. You are welcome to continue commenting and discussing during this time, but the discussions will not be as closely facilitated and documented.
- Week commencing March 2: the core team will publish the above report
on Meta to give the movement an opportunity to review the content and give feedback as to whether it accurately reflects their input. The closing date for this is March 6. This summary report will then be finalized and published.
In mid-March, the feedback from the Board of Trustees, movement conversations and reviewers' input will be considered in the creation of the final, improved set of recommendations. A rationale for things that have not been considered will be provided, too. Our aim is to have the recommendations finalized and published in late March. More about the actual integration work coming soon.
== Video and podcast about our work; one-pager == Members of the core team - Tanveer Hasan, Information and Knowledge Liaison, and Mehrdad Pourzaki, Information and Knowledge Manager - recently held a presentation about all the recommendations at the Wikimedia Foundation All Hands. They provide a quick, concise overview of every recommendation and also some insight into how each was developed. Video of the presentation [2] and the presentation slides [3] are now on Commons.
Jan Ainali has interviewed me for his podcast Wikipedia Podden. I’m speaking with him about the past, present and future of movement strategy[4].
The one-pager created by Andrew Lih (User:Fuzheado) has been very popular. Again, a big thank you to Andrew for putting this together. In addition to Arabic, English, and Hindi versions, it is now also available in Farsi [5, 6].
== Meeting notes from the office hours == We have published a condensed summary of the meeting notes [7] from the office hours that were held by the core team on Thursday, January 30. The notes provide an overview of the key points and questions that were raised during the two calls as well as summaries of the responses.
== Do you have further questions? == Members of the core team will join the upcoming Wikimedia Café on February 15 [8], which will focus on the movement strategy recommendations. The Wikimedia Café is a community-led meeting hosted by User:Pine and User:Bluerasberry, and we are happy to take part and help answer any questions people may have about the recommendations. Additionally, if you are looking for more information about any of the above topics or about the movement strategy in general, take a look at our FAQ section [9].
Happy weekend, Nicole
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen... [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_movement_strategy_recommen... [3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Movement_Strategy_at_WM... [4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WP_72_-_Wikimedia_2030,_a_strategy_i... [5] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:One-page_overview_of_the_first_versi... [6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D9%85%D9%84%D8%AE%D9%91%D8%B5_%D8%A... [7] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Reports/... [8] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Caf%C3%A9 [9] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Frequent...
-- Nicole Ebber Leiterin Internationale Beziehungen Program Manager Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 https://wikimedia.de
Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der Menschheit teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei! https://spenden.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
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Nicole,
While I appreciate you taking the time to respond, this is exactly why we distrust this kind of backchanneling. If you have something to say, you say it publicly, open to criticism and dispute. You don't say it in a "salon" or a "survey" or anything else insulated from that. On Wikimedia projects, we do things in full public view.
Todd
On Tue, Feb 18, 2020, 10:14 AM Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hello again,
I now realised that none of the participants in the audience was aware of us recording them, and that we aren't able to identify them to ask for their consent. We are not going to release the full video, but are of course happy to answer potential questions and create more clarity where needed.
Best wishes, Nicole
On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 11:30, Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hello Todd,
Thanks for your question. The video is indeed incomplete. We cut if for the viewer's comfort, as the original version is ~60 mins long, and has questions and interaction with the audience at All Hands. Our main objective for this video was to focus on conveying the broad context and content of each recommendation in a quick and accessible way, without putting too much emphasis on specific recommendations or details.
We'll look into whether the dialogues offer additional clarity. We might also have to identify those who have asked the questions and get their consent to publish. That can take a couple of days, so please stay tuned.
Best wishes, Nicole
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 21:25, Todd Allen toddmallen@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Nicole,
The second video seems to be incomplete. There are, for example,
several
jump cuts, e.g., at 05:07, 11:08, 17:08, 22:31, etc. At 11:14 the presenters invite questions or comments, and at 41:32 someone is
clearly
being called upon to offer one, but they are not shown in the video.
Could
you please provide a link to the entire video without cuts, including
any
questions or comments and the responses to them?
Todd
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 10:45 AM Nicole Ebber <
nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de>
wrote:
Hi everyone,
We’re in week 4 of community conversations about the movement
strategy
recommendations. Thank you to everyone who has already taken part.
The
community conversations will continue until Friday, February 21 - you can get involved on Meta[1] in Arabic, English, French, German,
Hindi,
Spanish, and Portuguese, strategize with your community or organization, or send the core team your feedback to strategy2030@wikimedia.org.
This current round of community conversations is the last opportunity to suggest improvements to the recommendations. They will be
finalized
before the end of March, and then published for the movement to understand them, reflect on what they mean in their project, local,
or
thematic context, and move into implementation.
== Movement feedback: what happens next == All feedback is being collected, reviewed and analyzed on an ongoing basis. Here are the next steps after February 21:
- Week commencing February 24: the core team will summarize all the
feedback received in a report. You are welcome to continue commenting and discussing during this time, but the discussions will not be as closely facilitated and documented.
- Week commencing March 2: the core team will publish the above
report
on Meta to give the movement an opportunity to review the content and give feedback as to whether it accurately reflects their input. The closing date for this is March 6. This summary report will then be finalized and published.
In mid-March, the feedback from the Board of Trustees, movement conversations and reviewers' input will be considered in the creation of the final, improved set of recommendations. A rationale for things that have not been considered will be provided, too. Our aim is to have the recommendations finalized and published in late March. More about the actual integration work coming soon.
== Video and podcast about our work; one-pager == Members of the core team - Tanveer Hasan, Information and Knowledge Liaison, and Mehrdad Pourzaki, Information and Knowledge Manager - recently held a presentation about all the recommendations at the Wikimedia Foundation All Hands. They provide a quick, concise
overview
of every recommendation and also some insight into how each was developed. Video of the presentation [2] and the presentation slides [3] are now on Commons.
Jan Ainali has interviewed me for his podcast Wikipedia Podden. I’m speaking with him about the past, present and future of movement strategy[4].
The one-pager created by Andrew Lih (User:Fuzheado) has been very popular. Again, a big thank you to Andrew for putting this together. In addition to Arabic, English, and Hindi versions, it is now also available in Farsi [5, 6].
== Meeting notes from the office hours == We have published a condensed summary of the meeting notes [7] from the office hours that were held by the core team on Thursday, January 30. The notes provide an overview of the key points and questions
that
were raised during the two calls as well as summaries of the responses.
== Do you have further questions? == Members of the core team will join the upcoming Wikimedia Café on February 15 [8], which will focus on the movement strategy recommendations. The Wikimedia Café is a community-led meeting hosted by User:Pine and User:Bluerasberry, and we are happy to take part and help answer any questions people may have about the recommendations. Additionally, if you are looking for more information about any of
the
above topics or about the movement strategy in general, take a look
at
our FAQ section [9].
Happy weekend, Nicole
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen...
[2]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_movement_strategy_recommen...
[3]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Movement_Strategy_at_WM...
[4]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WP_72_-_Wikimedia_2030,_a_strategy_i...
[5]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:One-page_overview_of_the_first_versi...
[6]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D9%85%D9%84%D8%AE%D9%91%D8%B5_%D8%A...
[7]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Reports/...
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Frequent...
-- Nicole Ebber Leiterin Internationale Beziehungen Program Manager Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 https://wikimedia.de
Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der Menschheit teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei! https://spenden.wikimedia.de
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Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der Menschheit teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei! https://spenden.wikimedia.de
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-- Nicole Ebber Leiterin Internationale Beziehungen Program Manager Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 https://wikimedia.de
Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der Menschheit teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei! https://spenden.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
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Hi Todd,
I'm not sure how your comment about "backchanneling" is applicable to a recording made in public. Please express your views in a good-faith and respectful manner.
On Wikimedia projects, we do things in full public view.
To prove your point, please link to the log of the irc channels and the admin back-channels to start with.
Aron
On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 19:21, Todd Allen toddmallen@gmail.com wrote:
Nicole,
While I appreciate you taking the time to respond, this is exactly why we distrust this kind of backchanneling. If you have something to say, you say it publicly, open to criticism and dispute. You don't say it in a "salon" or a "survey" or anything else insulated from that. On Wikimedia projects, we do things in full public view.
Todd
On Tue, Feb 18, 2020, 10:14 AM Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hello again,
I now realised that none of the participants in the audience was aware of us recording them, and that we aren't able to identify them to ask for their consent. We are not going to release the full video, but are of course happy to answer potential questions and create more clarity where needed.
Best wishes, Nicole
On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 11:30, Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hello Todd,
Thanks for your question. The video is indeed incomplete. We cut if for the viewer's comfort, as the original version is ~60 mins long, and has questions and interaction with the audience at All Hands. Our main objective for this video was to focus on conveying the broad context and content of each recommendation in a quick and accessible way, without putting too much emphasis on specific recommendations or details.
We'll look into whether the dialogues offer additional clarity. We might also have to identify those who have asked the questions and get their consent to publish. That can take a couple of days, so please stay tuned.
Best wishes, Nicole
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 21:25, Todd Allen toddmallen@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Nicole,
The second video seems to be incomplete. There are, for example,
several
jump cuts, e.g., at 05:07, 11:08, 17:08, 22:31, etc. At 11:14 the presenters invite questions or comments, and at 41:32 someone is
clearly
being called upon to offer one, but they are not shown in the video.
Could
you please provide a link to the entire video without cuts, including
any
questions or comments and the responses to them?
Todd
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 10:45 AM Nicole Ebber <
nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de>
wrote:
Hi everyone,
We’re in week 4 of community conversations about the movement
strategy
recommendations. Thank you to everyone who has already taken part.
The
community conversations will continue until Friday, February 21 -
you
can get involved on Meta[1] in Arabic, English, French, German,
Hindi,
Spanish, and Portuguese, strategize with your community or organization, or send the core team your feedback to strategy2030@wikimedia.org.
This current round of community conversations is the last
opportunity
to suggest improvements to the recommendations. They will be
finalized
before the end of March, and then published for the movement to understand them, reflect on what they mean in their project, local,
or
thematic context, and move into implementation.
== Movement feedback: what happens next == All feedback is being collected, reviewed and analyzed on an
ongoing
basis. Here are the next steps after February 21:
- Week commencing February 24: the core team will summarize all the
feedback received in a report. You are welcome to continue
commenting
and discussing during this time, but the discussions will not be as closely facilitated and documented.
- Week commencing March 2: the core team will publish the above
report
on Meta to give the movement an opportunity to review the content
and
give feedback as to whether it accurately reflects their input. The closing date for this is March 6. This summary report will then be finalized and published.
In mid-March, the feedback from the Board of Trustees, movement conversations and reviewers' input will be considered in the
creation
of the final, improved set of recommendations. A rationale for
things
that have not been considered will be provided, too. Our aim is to have the recommendations finalized and published in late March.
More
about the actual integration work coming soon.
== Video and podcast about our work; one-pager == Members of the core team - Tanveer Hasan, Information and Knowledge Liaison, and Mehrdad Pourzaki, Information and Knowledge Manager - recently held a presentation about all the recommendations at the Wikimedia Foundation All Hands. They provide a quick, concise
overview
of every recommendation and also some insight into how each was developed. Video of the presentation [2] and the presentation
slides
[3] are now on Commons.
Jan Ainali has interviewed me for his podcast Wikipedia Podden. I’m speaking with him about the past, present and future of movement strategy[4].
The one-pager created by Andrew Lih (User:Fuzheado) has been very popular. Again, a big thank you to Andrew for putting this
together.
In addition to Arabic, English, and Hindi versions, it is now also available in Farsi [5, 6].
== Meeting notes from the office hours == We have published a condensed summary of the meeting notes [7] from the office hours that were held by the core team on Thursday,
January
- The notes provide an overview of the key points and questions
that
were raised during the two calls as well as summaries of the responses.
== Do you have further questions? == Members of the core team will join the upcoming Wikimedia Café on February 15 [8], which will focus on the movement strategy recommendations. The Wikimedia Café is a community-led meeting
hosted
by User:Pine and User:Bluerasberry, and we are happy to take part
and
help answer any questions people may have about the
recommendations.
Additionally, if you are looking for more information about any of
the
above topics or about the movement strategy in general, take a look
at
our FAQ section [9].
Happy weekend, Nicole
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen...
[2]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_movement_strategy_recommen...
[3]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Movement_Strategy_at_WM...
[4]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WP_72_-_Wikimedia_2030,_a_strategy_i...
[5]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:One-page_overview_of_the_first_versi...
[6]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D9%85%D9%84%D8%AE%D9%91%D8%B5_%D8%A...
[7]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Reports/...
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Frequent...
-- Nicole Ebber Leiterin Internationale Beziehungen Program Manager Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 https://wikimedia.de
Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der Menschheit teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei! https://spenden.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens
e.
V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
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Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der Menschheit teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei! https://spenden.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
-- Nicole Ebber Leiterin Internationale Beziehungen Program Manager Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 https://wikimedia.de
Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der Menschheit teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei! https://spenden.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
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Hi,
The IRC channels where public, on-topic discussions are held usually have public logging, like #wikimedia-office. And regardless of the channel, discussions within them have no bearing on onwiki actions. In other words, binding decisions cannot be made solely on IRC. That is very different with a movement strategy discussion.
Regards, Vermont
On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 13:32 Aron Manning aronmanning5@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Todd,
I'm not sure how your comment about "backchanneling" is applicable to a recording made in public. Please express your views in a good-faith and respectful manner.
On Wikimedia projects, we do things in full public view.
To prove your point, please link to the log of the irc channels and the admin back-channels to start with.
Aron
On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 19:21, Todd Allen toddmallen@gmail.com wrote:
Nicole,
While I appreciate you taking the time to respond, this is exactly why we distrust this kind of backchanneling. If you have something to say, you
say
it publicly, open to criticism and dispute. You don't say it in a "salon" or a "survey" or anything else insulated from that. On Wikimedia
projects,
we do things in full public view.
Todd
On Tue, Feb 18, 2020, 10:14 AM Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hello again,
I now realised that none of the participants in the audience was aware of us recording them, and that we aren't able to identify them to ask for their consent. We are not going to release the full video, but are of course happy to answer potential questions and create more clarity where needed.
Best wishes, Nicole
On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 11:30, Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hello Todd,
Thanks for your question. The video is indeed incomplete. We cut if for the viewer's comfort, as the original version is ~60 mins long, and has questions and interaction with the audience at All Hands. Our main objective for this video was to focus on conveying the broad context and content of each recommendation in a quick and accessible way, without putting too much emphasis on specific recommendations or details.
We'll look into whether the dialogues offer additional clarity. We might also have to identify those who have asked the questions and
get
their consent to publish. That can take a couple of days, so please stay tuned.
Best wishes, Nicole
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 21:25, Todd Allen toddmallen@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello Nicole,
The second video seems to be incomplete. There are, for example,
several
jump cuts, e.g., at 05:07, 11:08, 17:08, 22:31, etc. At 11:14 the presenters invite questions or comments, and at 41:32 someone is
clearly
being called upon to offer one, but they are not shown in the
video.
Could
you please provide a link to the entire video without cuts,
including
any
questions or comments and the responses to them?
Todd
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 10:45 AM Nicole Ebber <
nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de>
wrote:
Hi everyone,
We’re in week 4 of community conversations about the movement
strategy
recommendations. Thank you to everyone who has already taken
part.
The
community conversations will continue until Friday, February 21 -
you
can get involved on Meta[1] in Arabic, English, French, German,
Hindi,
Spanish, and Portuguese, strategize with your community or organization, or send the core team your feedback to strategy2030@wikimedia.org.
This current round of community conversations is the last
opportunity
to suggest improvements to the recommendations. They will be
finalized
before the end of March, and then published for the movement to understand them, reflect on what they mean in their project,
local,
or
thematic context, and move into implementation.
== Movement feedback: what happens next == All feedback is being collected, reviewed and analyzed on an
ongoing
basis. Here are the next steps after February 21:
- Week commencing February 24: the core team will summarize all
the
feedback received in a report. You are welcome to continue
commenting
and discussing during this time, but the discussions will not be
as
closely facilitated and documented.
- Week commencing March 2: the core team will publish the above
report
on Meta to give the movement an opportunity to review the content
and
give feedback as to whether it accurately reflects their input.
The
closing date for this is March 6. This summary report will then
be
finalized and published.
In mid-March, the feedback from the Board of Trustees, movement conversations and reviewers' input will be considered in the
creation
of the final, improved set of recommendations. A rationale for
things
that have not been considered will be provided, too. Our aim is
to
have the recommendations finalized and published in late March.
More
about the actual integration work coming soon.
== Video and podcast about our work; one-pager == Members of the core team - Tanveer Hasan, Information and
Knowledge
Liaison, and Mehrdad Pourzaki, Information and Knowledge Manager
recently held a presentation about all the recommendations at the Wikimedia Foundation All Hands. They provide a quick, concise
overview
of every recommendation and also some insight into how each was developed. Video of the presentation [2] and the presentation
slides
[3] are now on Commons.
Jan Ainali has interviewed me for his podcast Wikipedia Podden.
I’m
speaking with him about the past, present and future of movement strategy[4].
The one-pager created by Andrew Lih (User:Fuzheado) has been very popular. Again, a big thank you to Andrew for putting this
together.
In addition to Arabic, English, and Hindi versions, it is now
also
available in Farsi [5, 6].
== Meeting notes from the office hours == We have published a condensed summary of the meeting notes [7]
from
the office hours that were held by the core team on Thursday,
January
- The notes provide an overview of the key points and questions
that
were raised during the two calls as well as summaries of the responses.
== Do you have further questions? == Members of the core team will join the upcoming Wikimedia Café on February 15 [8], which will focus on the movement strategy recommendations. The Wikimedia Café is a community-led meeting
hosted
by User:Pine and User:Bluerasberry, and we are happy to take part
and
help answer any questions people may have about the
recommendations.
Additionally, if you are looking for more information about any
of
the
above topics or about the movement strategy in general, take a
look
at
our FAQ section [9].
Happy weekend, Nicole
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen...
[2]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_movement_strategy_recommen...
[3]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Movement_Strategy_at_WM...
[4]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WP_72_-_Wikimedia_2030,_a_strategy_i...
[5]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:One-page_overview_of_the_first_versi...
[6]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D9%85%D9%84%D8%AE%D9%91%D8%B5_%D8%A...
[7]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Reports/...
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Frequent...
-- Nicole Ebber Leiterin Internationale Beziehungen Program Manager Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963
Berlin
Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 https://wikimedia.de
Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der Menschheit teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei! https://spenden.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens
e.
V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
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I'm fine with people having some private discussions. The more formal the discussion is, and the more public the implications of the discussions are, then the more I think that the discussions should be public with the exception of discussions involving information which there is a strong reason to keep confidential such as certain types of banking information or information which would de-anonymize an individual good faith contributor to the Wikimedia projects who has not consented to having their identity published. Binding policy decisions which are mare through RfCs should have the final RfCs be public, although private discussions about the RfCs are fine so long as they don't involve canvassing or meatpuppetry.
I'm fine with what Nicole's publication of the video in its current form, and I'm thankful that we got the video at all. She wasn't required to publish any of it, although I think that publishing it was a good idea and is beneficial.
There are legal issues involved with recording people without their knowledge, and these laws vary by jurisdiction. I generally don't encourage people to record video and/or audio of meetings without the knowledge of everyone who is participating, especially if they have not researched the relevant local laws. As a courtesy, even if recording video and/or audio of people without their knowledge is legally allowed, I usually encourage notification of people who will be recorded and giving them a chance to opt out.
I don't like those either. I tend to ignore email unless there's a very good reason for private communication. If not, well, post a message on my talk page.
The recording is incomplete. A complete recording would be the raw video of the session without cuts or edits, and with everyone there aware they're being recorded and knowing anything they say is open to public scrutiny.
The video here failed in that. Every meeting regarding Wikimedia strategy should be recorded, and the uncut video made available to the public. No backchanneling, no secrecy, no "Oh they didn't know!". They didn't have to know to be legally allowed to publish, nor is their permission required.
Todd
Todd
On Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 11:32 AM Aron Manning aronmanning5@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Todd,
I'm not sure how your comment about "backchanneling" is applicable to a recording made in public. Please express your views in a good-faith and respectful manner.
On Wikimedia projects, we do things in full public view.
To prove your point, please link to the log of the irc channels and the admin back-channels to start with.
Aron
On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 19:21, Todd Allen toddmallen@gmail.com wrote:
Nicole,
While I appreciate you taking the time to respond, this is exactly why we distrust this kind of backchanneling. If you have something to say, you
say
it publicly, open to criticism and dispute. You don't say it in a "salon" or a "survey" or anything else insulated from that. On Wikimedia
projects,
we do things in full public view.
Todd
On Tue, Feb 18, 2020, 10:14 AM Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hello again,
I now realised that none of the participants in the audience was aware of us recording them, and that we aren't able to identify them to ask for their consent. We are not going to release the full video, but are of course happy to answer potential questions and create more clarity where needed.
Best wishes, Nicole
On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 11:30, Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hello Todd,
Thanks for your question. The video is indeed incomplete. We cut if for the viewer's comfort, as the original version is ~60 mins long, and has questions and interaction with the audience at All Hands. Our main objective for this video was to focus on conveying the broad context and content of each recommendation in a quick and accessible way, without putting too much emphasis on specific recommendations or details.
We'll look into whether the dialogues offer additional clarity. We might also have to identify those who have asked the questions and
get
their consent to publish. That can take a couple of days, so please stay tuned.
Best wishes, Nicole
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 21:25, Todd Allen toddmallen@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello Nicole,
The second video seems to be incomplete. There are, for example,
several
jump cuts, e.g., at 05:07, 11:08, 17:08, 22:31, etc. At 11:14 the presenters invite questions or comments, and at 41:32 someone is
clearly
being called upon to offer one, but they are not shown in the
video.
Could
you please provide a link to the entire video without cuts,
including
any
questions or comments and the responses to them?
Todd
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 10:45 AM Nicole Ebber <
nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de>
wrote:
Hi everyone,
We’re in week 4 of community conversations about the movement
strategy
recommendations. Thank you to everyone who has already taken
part.
The
community conversations will continue until Friday, February 21 -
you
can get involved on Meta[1] in Arabic, English, French, German,
Hindi,
Spanish, and Portuguese, strategize with your community or organization, or send the core team your feedback to strategy2030@wikimedia.org.
This current round of community conversations is the last
opportunity
to suggest improvements to the recommendations. They will be
finalized
before the end of March, and then published for the movement to understand them, reflect on what they mean in their project,
local,
or
thematic context, and move into implementation.
== Movement feedback: what happens next == All feedback is being collected, reviewed and analyzed on an
ongoing
basis. Here are the next steps after February 21:
- Week commencing February 24: the core team will summarize all
the
feedback received in a report. You are welcome to continue
commenting
and discussing during this time, but the discussions will not be
as
closely facilitated and documented.
- Week commencing March 2: the core team will publish the above
report
on Meta to give the movement an opportunity to review the content
and
give feedback as to whether it accurately reflects their input.
The
closing date for this is March 6. This summary report will then
be
finalized and published.
In mid-March, the feedback from the Board of Trustees, movement conversations and reviewers' input will be considered in the
creation
of the final, improved set of recommendations. A rationale for
things
that have not been considered will be provided, too. Our aim is
to
have the recommendations finalized and published in late March.
More
about the actual integration work coming soon.
== Video and podcast about our work; one-pager == Members of the core team - Tanveer Hasan, Information and
Knowledge
Liaison, and Mehrdad Pourzaki, Information and Knowledge Manager
recently held a presentation about all the recommendations at the Wikimedia Foundation All Hands. They provide a quick, concise
overview
of every recommendation and also some insight into how each was developed. Video of the presentation [2] and the presentation
slides
[3] are now on Commons.
Jan Ainali has interviewed me for his podcast Wikipedia Podden.
I’m
speaking with him about the past, present and future of movement strategy[4].
The one-pager created by Andrew Lih (User:Fuzheado) has been very popular. Again, a big thank you to Andrew for putting this
together.
In addition to Arabic, English, and Hindi versions, it is now
also
available in Farsi [5, 6].
== Meeting notes from the office hours == We have published a condensed summary of the meeting notes [7]
from
the office hours that were held by the core team on Thursday,
January
- The notes provide an overview of the key points and questions
that
were raised during the two calls as well as summaries of the responses.
== Do you have further questions? == Members of the core team will join the upcoming Wikimedia Café on February 15 [8], which will focus on the movement strategy recommendations. The Wikimedia Café is a community-led meeting
hosted
by User:Pine and User:Bluerasberry, and we are happy to take part
and
help answer any questions people may have about the
recommendations.
Additionally, if you are looking for more information about any
of
the
above topics or about the movement strategy in general, take a
look
at
our FAQ section [9].
Happy weekend, Nicole
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen...
[2]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_movement_strategy_recommen...
[3]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Movement_Strategy_at_WM...
[4]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WP_72_-_Wikimedia_2030,_a_strategy_i...
[5]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:One-page_overview_of_the_first_versi...
[6]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D9%85%D9%84%D8%AE%D9%91%D8%B5_%D8%A...
[7]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Reports/...
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Frequent...
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Hello,
A brief note to say thanks to Mehrdad and Rupika for their support of the January and/or February Wikimedia Café events. Also, thanks to volunteers who have been involved in the strategy process for their participation, thanks to User:Fuzheado for the one page summary of the strategy recommendations, and thanks to Nicole for the updates in the February 14th email.
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