Dear all,
I want to share with you the next steps of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees about the Brand Project.
Originally the Board meeting dedicated to the brand project was supposed to happen no earlier than October. The expected outcome from the project were the recommendations on what the rebranding should look like - from changing fonts/logos to renaming. And if there is going to be a renaming - to what. Of course, the Board’s role is not in approving a change in fonts, but if a recommendation to rename was to be made - the Board’s role would have been to make a decision on that recommendation. The timeline has now been changed, and the renaming part of rebranding will be discussed in our August meeting.
Moreover, the Board will meet in early July to receive a briefing about the project and talk about the process between June 2018 - June 2020. The consolidated materials on what the brand project team has been working on for a while now will be presented to the Board, and these materials are also going to be posted publicly. The more-strategic conversation is planned for the August meeting. Time to prepare the materials is needed, and the ongoing conversations need to be summarised, so the Board can have an in-depth discussion about this, before making any kind of decision.
We would like to continue with the survey [1] - we have discussed the possibility of technical changes to the survey with an additional option like “no renaming is needed” (not the exact words, mind you), but with more than 700 respondents it is not methodologically sound to change the survey now. Staff have confirmed to the Board that responses to the survey will not be calculated as support for a change. The survey was only designed to collect feedback on the possible renaming options, not as a yes/no vote on whether to adopt them.
Thus the timeline on rebranding for the next 6-7 weeks is as follows:
* Early July - special Board meeting with the Brand project team to review and discuss the process so far, and for the Board members to receive the briefing on discussions happening;
* July - consolidated materials prepared for the July meeting will be posted publicly after the meeting;
* August 5th - the Board meeting on renaming part of the rebranding, not about the process. The Board will make the decision about whether to stop, pause, or continue the work on this, within the framework of a discussion on strategic goals, tensions and tradeoffs, and potential next steps.
* August (after the meeting) - the Board statement on the next steps about the Brand project.
I also want to acknowledge receiving the Community open letter on renaming [2] that was posted this week. Thank you for this statement on the position of those of you who signed. I know there are other perspectives, and that some would agree with it who have not signed it, and that there are also some who would not agree. We expect that the Board meetings and communication after them will address the concerns raised in the letter.
Stay safe, antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv Acting Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
[1] https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_9G2dN7P0T7gPqpD
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming
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Greetings, The timeline is pretty clear. Glad to know about the special board meeting in early July. Other than the open letter there was a straw poll also: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_movemen... The early July briefing, I hope that will be presenting all the aspects and opinions.
Thanks User:Titodutta
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 at 04:57, Nataliia Tymkiv ntymkiv@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dear all,
I want to share with you the next steps of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees about the Brand Project.
Originally the Board meeting dedicated to the brand project was supposed to happen no earlier than October. The expected outcome from the project were the recommendations on what the rebranding should look like - from changing fonts/logos to renaming. And if there is going to be a renaming - to what. Of course, the Board’s role is not in approving a change in fonts, but if a recommendation to rename was to be made - the Board’s role would have been to make a decision on that recommendation. The timeline has now been changed, and the renaming part of rebranding will be discussed in our August meeting.
Moreover, the Board will meet in early July to receive a briefing about the project and talk about the process between June 2018 - June 2020. The consolidated materials on what the brand project team has been working on for a while now will be presented to the Board, and these materials are also going to be posted publicly. The more-strategic conversation is planned for the August meeting. Time to prepare the materials is needed, and the ongoing conversations need to be summarised, so the Board can have an in-depth discussion about this, before making any kind of decision.
We would like to continue with the survey [1] - we have discussed the possibility of technical changes to the survey with an additional option like “no renaming is needed” (not the exact words, mind you), but with more than 700 respondents it is not methodologically sound to change the survey now. Staff have confirmed to the Board that responses to the survey will not be calculated as support for a change. The survey was only designed to collect feedback on the possible renaming options, not as a yes/no vote on whether to adopt them.
Thus the timeline on rebranding for the next 6-7 weeks is as follows:
- Early July - special Board meeting with the Brand project team to review
and discuss the process so far, and for the Board members to receive the briefing on discussions happening;
- July - consolidated materials prepared for the July meeting will be
posted publicly after the meeting;
- August 5th - the Board meeting on renaming part of the rebranding, not
about the process. The Board will make the decision about whether to stop, pause, or continue the work on this, within the framework of a discussion on strategic goals, tensions and tradeoffs, and potential next steps.
- August (after the meeting) - the Board statement on the next steps about
the Brand project.
I also want to acknowledge receiving the Community open letter on renaming [2] that was posted this week. Thank you for this statement on the position of those of you who signed. I know there are other perspectives, and that some would agree with it who have not signed it, and that there are also some who would not agree. We expect that the Board meetings and communication after them will address the concerns raised in the letter.
Stay safe, antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv Acting Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
[1] https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_9G2dN7P0T7gPqpD
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming
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Dear all,
We want to confirm that the Brand Project team has been directed by the Board to develop new branding options and to evaluate those options with communities. We invite your perspectives.
We are asking that you continue to participate in the process which includes completing the survey, available in 7 languages.[1] Your participation in this survey will not be calculated as support for a change.
We have been alerted to the Community open letter on renaming. We will take that information into the process.
The Board will consider all the options, including the option to do nothing, and make a decision at their August meeting.
-
Zack & the Brand Project team
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_movemen...
On Friday, June 26, 2020, Tito Dutta trulytito@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings, The timeline is pretty clear. Glad to know about the special board meeting in early July. Other than the open letter there was a straw poll also: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_ brands/2030_movement_brand_project/Community_feedback_and_straw_poll The early July briefing, I hope that will be presenting all the aspects and opinions.
Thanks User:Titodutta
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 at 04:57, Nataliia Tymkiv ntymkiv@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dear all,
I want to share with you the next steps of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees about the Brand Project.
Originally the Board meeting dedicated to the brand project was supposed
to
happen no earlier than October. The expected outcome from the project
were
the recommendations on what the rebranding should look like - from
changing
fonts/logos to renaming. And if there is going to be a renaming - to
what.
Of course, the Board’s role is not in approving a change in fonts, but
if a
recommendation to rename was to be made - the Board’s role would have
been
to make a decision on that recommendation. The timeline has now been changed, and the renaming part of rebranding will be discussed in our August meeting.
Moreover, the Board will meet in early July to receive a briefing about
the
project and talk about the process between June 2018 - June 2020. The consolidated materials on what the brand project team has been working on for a while now will be presented to the Board, and these materials are also going to be posted publicly. The more-strategic conversation is planned for the August meeting. Time to prepare the materials is needed, and the ongoing conversations need to be summarised, so the Board can
have
an in-depth discussion about this, before making any kind of decision.
We would like to continue with the survey [1] - we have discussed the possibility of technical changes to the survey with an additional option like “no renaming is needed” (not the exact words, mind you), but with
more
than 700 respondents it is not methodologically sound to change the
survey
now. Staff have confirmed to the Board that responses to the survey will not be calculated as support for a change. The survey was only designed
to
collect feedback on the possible renaming options, not as a yes/no vote
on
whether to adopt them.
Thus the timeline on rebranding for the next 6-7 weeks is as follows:
- Early July - special Board meeting with the Brand project team to
review
and discuss the process so far, and for the Board members to receive the briefing on discussions happening;
- July - consolidated materials prepared for the July meeting will be
posted publicly after the meeting;
- August 5th - the Board meeting on renaming part of the rebranding, not
about the process. The Board will make the decision about whether to
stop,
pause, or continue the work on this, within the framework of a discussion on strategic goals, tensions and tradeoffs, and potential next steps.
- August (after the meeting) - the Board statement on the next steps
about
the Brand project.
I also want to acknowledge receiving the Community open letter on
renaming
[2] that was posted this week. Thank you for this statement on the
position
of those of you who signed. I know there are other perspectives, and that some would agree with it who have not signed it, and that there are also some who would not agree. We expect that the Board meetings and communication after them will address the concerns raised in the letter.
Stay safe, antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv Acting Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
[1] https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_9G2dN7P0T7gPqpD
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming
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That is a really poorly designed survey unless it has been changed since I last saw it. Cheers, Peter
-----Original Message----- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Zack McCune Sent: 27 June 2020 02:37 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board update on Branding: next steps
Dear all,
We want to confirm that the Brand Project team has been directed by the Board to develop new branding options and to evaluate those options with communities. We invite your perspectives.
We are asking that you continue to participate in the process which includes completing the survey, available in 7 languages.[1] Your participation in this survey will not be calculated as support for a change.
We have been alerted to the Community open letter on renaming. We will take that information into the process.
The Board will consider all the options, including the option to do nothing, and make a decision at their August meeting.
-
Zack & the Brand Project team
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_movemen...
On Friday, June 26, 2020, Tito Dutta trulytito@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings, The timeline is pretty clear. Glad to know about the special board meeting in early July. Other than the open letter there was a straw poll also: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_ brands/2030_movement_brand_project/Community_feedback_and_straw_poll The early July briefing, I hope that will be presenting all the aspects and opinions.
Thanks User:Titodutta
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 at 04:57, Nataliia Tymkiv ntymkiv@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dear all,
I want to share with you the next steps of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees about the Brand Project.
Originally the Board meeting dedicated to the brand project was supposed
to
happen no earlier than October. The expected outcome from the project
were
the recommendations on what the rebranding should look like - from
changing
fonts/logos to renaming. And if there is going to be a renaming - to
what.
Of course, the Board’s role is not in approving a change in fonts, but
if a
recommendation to rename was to be made - the Board’s role would have
been
to make a decision on that recommendation. The timeline has now been changed, and the renaming part of rebranding will be discussed in our August meeting.
Moreover, the Board will meet in early July to receive a briefing about
the
project and talk about the process between June 2018 - June 2020. The consolidated materials on what the brand project team has been working on for a while now will be presented to the Board, and these materials are also going to be posted publicly. The more-strategic conversation is planned for the August meeting. Time to prepare the materials is needed, and the ongoing conversations need to be summarised, so the Board can
have
an in-depth discussion about this, before making any kind of decision.
We would like to continue with the survey [1] - we have discussed the possibility of technical changes to the survey with an additional option like “no renaming is needed” (not the exact words, mind you), but with
more
than 700 respondents it is not methodologically sound to change the
survey
now. Staff have confirmed to the Board that responses to the survey will not be calculated as support for a change. The survey was only designed
to
collect feedback on the possible renaming options, not as a yes/no vote
on
whether to adopt them.
Thus the timeline on rebranding for the next 6-7 weeks is as follows:
- Early July - special Board meeting with the Brand project team to
review
and discuss the process so far, and for the Board members to receive the briefing on discussions happening;
- July - consolidated materials prepared for the July meeting will be
posted publicly after the meeting;
- August 5th - the Board meeting on renaming part of the rebranding, not
about the process. The Board will make the decision about whether to
stop,
pause, or continue the work on this, within the framework of a discussion on strategic goals, tensions and tradeoffs, and potential next steps.
- August (after the meeting) - the Board statement on the next steps
about
the Brand project.
I also want to acknowledge receiving the Community open letter on
renaming
[2] that was posted this week. Thank you for this statement on the
position
of those of you who signed. I know there are other perspectives, and that some would agree with it who have not signed it, and that there are also some who would not agree. We expect that the Board meetings and communication after them will address the concerns raised in the letter.
Stay safe, antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv Acting Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
[1] https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_9G2dN7P0T7gPqpD
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming
*NOTICE: You may have received this message outside of your normal
working
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Question about the timeline: will the community's opinions be ignored at the July or at the August meeting? Or is this considered a continual process? This information would help people with their planning.
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 8:37 PM Zack McCune zmccune@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dear all,
We want to confirm that the Brand Project team has been directed by the Board to develop new branding options and to evaluate those options with communities. We invite your perspectives.
We are asking that you continue to participate in the process which includes completing the survey, available in 7 languages.[1] Your participation in this survey will not be calculated as support for a change.
We have been alerted to the Community open letter on renaming. We will take that information into the process.
The Board will consider all the options, including the option to do nothing, and make a decision at their August meeting.
Zack & the Brand Project team
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_movemen...
On Friday, June 26, 2020, Tito Dutta trulytito@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings, The timeline is pretty clear. Glad to know about the special board
meeting
in early July. Other than the open letter there was a straw poll also: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_ brands/2030_movement_brand_project/Community_feedback_and_straw_poll The early July briefing, I hope that will be presenting all the aspects
and
opinions.
Thanks User:Titodutta
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 at 04:57, Nataliia Tymkiv ntymkiv@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dear all,
I want to share with you the next steps of the Wikimedia Foundation
Board
of Trustees about the Brand Project.
Originally the Board meeting dedicated to the brand project was
supposed
to
happen no earlier than October. The expected outcome from the project
were
the recommendations on what the rebranding should look like - from
changing
fonts/logos to renaming. And if there is going to be a renaming - to
what.
Of course, the Board’s role is not in approving a change in fonts, but
if a
recommendation to rename was to be made - the Board’s role would have
been
to make a decision on that recommendation. The timeline has now been changed, and the renaming part of rebranding will be discussed in our August meeting.
Moreover, the Board will meet in early July to receive a briefing about
the
project and talk about the process between June 2018 - June 2020. The consolidated materials on what the brand project team has been working
on
for a while now will be presented to the Board, and these materials are also going to be posted publicly. The more-strategic conversation is planned for the August meeting. Time to prepare the materials is
needed,
and the ongoing conversations need to be summarised, so the Board can
have
an in-depth discussion about this, before making any kind of decision.
We would like to continue with the survey [1] - we have discussed the possibility of technical changes to the survey with an additional
option
like “no renaming is needed” (not the exact words, mind you), but with
more
than 700 respondents it is not methodologically sound to change the
survey
now. Staff have confirmed to the Board that responses to the survey
will
not be calculated as support for a change. The survey was only designed
to
collect feedback on the possible renaming options, not as a yes/no vote
on
whether to adopt them.
Thus the timeline on rebranding for the next 6-7 weeks is as follows:
- Early July - special Board meeting with the Brand project team to
review
and discuss the process so far, and for the Board members to receive
the
briefing on discussions happening;
- July - consolidated materials prepared for the July meeting will be
posted publicly after the meeting;
- August 5th - the Board meeting on renaming part of the rebranding,
not
about the process. The Board will make the decision about whether to
stop,
pause, or continue the work on this, within the framework of a
discussion
on strategic goals, tensions and tradeoffs, and potential next steps.
- August (after the meeting) - the Board statement on the next steps
about
the Brand project.
I also want to acknowledge receiving the Community open letter on
renaming
[2] that was posted this week. Thank you for this statement on the
position
of those of you who signed. I know there are other perspectives, and
that
some would agree with it who have not signed it, and that there are
also
some who would not agree. We expect that the Board meetings and communication after them will address the concerns raised in the
letter.
Stay safe, antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv Acting Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
[1] https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_9G2dN7P0T7gPqpD
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming
*NOTICE: You may have received this message outside of your normal
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So far it has been an ongoing process. No obvious reason to expect a change. Cheers, P
-----Original Message----- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Dan Szymborski Sent: 28 June 2020 18:13 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board update on Branding: next steps
Question about the timeline: will the community's opinions be ignored at the July or at the August meeting? Or is this considered a continual process? This information would help people with their planning.
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 8:37 PM Zack McCune zmccune@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dear all,
We want to confirm that the Brand Project team has been directed by the Board to develop new branding options and to evaluate those options with communities. We invite your perspectives.
We are asking that you continue to participate in the process which includes completing the survey, available in 7 languages.[1] Your participation in this survey will not be calculated as support for a change.
We have been alerted to the Community open letter on renaming. We will take that information into the process.
The Board will consider all the options, including the option to do nothing, and make a decision at their August meeting.
Zack & the Brand Project team
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_movemen...
On Friday, June 26, 2020, Tito Dutta trulytito@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings, The timeline is pretty clear. Glad to know about the special board
meeting
in early July. Other than the open letter there was a straw poll also: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_ brands/2030_movement_brand_project/Community_feedback_and_straw_poll The early July briefing, I hope that will be presenting all the aspects
and
opinions.
Thanks User:Titodutta
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 at 04:57, Nataliia Tymkiv ntymkiv@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dear all,
I want to share with you the next steps of the Wikimedia Foundation
Board
of Trustees about the Brand Project.
Originally the Board meeting dedicated to the brand project was
supposed
to
happen no earlier than October. The expected outcome from the project
were
the recommendations on what the rebranding should look like - from
changing
fonts/logos to renaming. And if there is going to be a renaming - to
what.
Of course, the Board’s role is not in approving a change in fonts, but
if a
recommendation to rename was to be made - the Board’s role would have
been
to make a decision on that recommendation. The timeline has now been changed, and the renaming part of rebranding will be discussed in our August meeting.
Moreover, the Board will meet in early July to receive a briefing about
the
project and talk about the process between June 2018 - June 2020. The consolidated materials on what the brand project team has been working
on
for a while now will be presented to the Board, and these materials are also going to be posted publicly. The more-strategic conversation is planned for the August meeting. Time to prepare the materials is
needed,
and the ongoing conversations need to be summarised, so the Board can
have
an in-depth discussion about this, before making any kind of decision.
We would like to continue with the survey [1] - we have discussed the possibility of technical changes to the survey with an additional
option
like “no renaming is needed” (not the exact words, mind you), but with
more
than 700 respondents it is not methodologically sound to change the
survey
now. Staff have confirmed to the Board that responses to the survey
will
not be calculated as support for a change. The survey was only designed
to
collect feedback on the possible renaming options, not as a yes/no vote
on
whether to adopt them.
Thus the timeline on rebranding for the next 6-7 weeks is as follows:
- Early July - special Board meeting with the Brand project team to
review
and discuss the process so far, and for the Board members to receive
the
briefing on discussions happening;
- July - consolidated materials prepared for the July meeting will be
posted publicly after the meeting;
- August 5th - the Board meeting on renaming part of the rebranding,
not
about the process. The Board will make the decision about whether to
stop,
pause, or continue the work on this, within the framework of a
discussion
on strategic goals, tensions and tradeoffs, and potential next steps.
- August (after the meeting) - the Board statement on the next steps
about
the Brand project.
I also want to acknowledge receiving the Community open letter on
renaming
[2] that was posted this week. Thank you for this statement on the
position
of those of you who signed. I know there are other perspectives, and
that
some would agree with it who have not signed it, and that there are
also
some who would not agree. We expect that the Board meetings and communication after them will address the concerns raised in the
letter.
Stay safe, antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv Acting Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
[1] https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_9G2dN7P0T7gPqpD
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming
*NOTICE: You may have received this message outside of your normal
working
hours/days, as I usually can work more as a volunteer during weekend.
You
should not feel obligated to answer it during your days off. Thank you
in
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Hi Zack,
I filled out a survey request for "The Wiki Foundation".
Some of the text of the survey indicated that the legal department thought that there could be a problem with that possibility, but didn't say why, so I asked for the source for the claim I quoted in the survey.
How many questions (or, if it's easier '?' question marks) are currently in the responses to your survey questions? Would you please publish them along with your answers?
Best regards, Jim
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 5:37 PM Zack McCune zmccune@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dear all,
We want to confirm that the Brand Project team has been directed by the Board to develop new branding options and to evaluate those options with communities. We invite your perspectives.
We are asking that you continue to participate in the process which includes completing the survey, available in 7 languages.[1] Your participation in this survey will not be calculated as support for a change.
We have been alerted to the Community open letter on renaming. We will take that information into the process.
The Board will consider all the options, including the option to do nothing, and make a decision at their August meeting.
Zack & the Brand Project team
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_movemen...
On Friday, June 26, 2020, Tito Dutta trulytito@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings, The timeline is pretty clear. Glad to know about the special board
meeting
in early July. Other than the open letter there was a straw poll also: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_ brands/2030_movement_brand_project/Community_feedback_and_straw_poll The early July briefing, I hope that will be presenting all the aspects
and
opinions.
Thanks User:Titodutta
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 at 04:57, Nataliia Tymkiv ntymkiv@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dear all,
I want to share with you the next steps of the Wikimedia Foundation
Board
of Trustees about the Brand Project.
Originally the Board meeting dedicated to the brand project was
supposed
to
happen no earlier than October. The expected outcome from the project
were
the recommendations on what the rebranding should look like - from
changing
fonts/logos to renaming. And if there is going to be a renaming - to
what.
Of course, the Board’s role is not in approving a change in fonts, but
if a
recommendation to rename was to be made - the Board’s role would have
been
to make a decision on that recommendation. The timeline has now been changed, and the renaming part of rebranding will be discussed in our August meeting.
Moreover, the Board will meet in early July to receive a briefing about
the
project and talk about the process between June 2018 - June 2020. The consolidated materials on what the brand project team has been working
on
for a while now will be presented to the Board, and these materials are also going to be posted publicly. The more-strategic conversation is planned for the August meeting. Time to prepare the materials is
needed,
and the ongoing conversations need to be summarised, so the Board can
have
an in-depth discussion about this, before making any kind of decision.
We would like to continue with the survey [1] - we have discussed the possibility of technical changes to the survey with an additional
option
like “no renaming is needed” (not the exact words, mind you), but with
more
than 700 respondents it is not methodologically sound to change the
survey
now. Staff have confirmed to the Board that responses to the survey
will
not be calculated as support for a change. The survey was only designed
to
collect feedback on the possible renaming options, not as a yes/no vote
on
whether to adopt them.
Thus the timeline on rebranding for the next 6-7 weeks is as follows:
- Early July - special Board meeting with the Brand project team to
review
and discuss the process so far, and for the Board members to receive
the
briefing on discussions happening;
- July - consolidated materials prepared for the July meeting will be
posted publicly after the meeting;
- August 5th - the Board meeting on renaming part of the rebranding,
not
about the process. The Board will make the decision about whether to
stop,
pause, or continue the work on this, within the framework of a
discussion
on strategic goals, tensions and tradeoffs, and potential next steps.
- August (after the meeting) - the Board statement on the next steps
about
the Brand project.
I also want to acknowledge receiving the Community open letter on
renaming
[2] that was posted this week. Thank you for this statement on the
position
of those of you who signed. I know there are other perspectives, and
that
some would agree with it who have not signed it, and that there are
also
some who would not agree. We expect that the Board meetings and communication after them will address the concerns raised in the
letter.
Stay safe, antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv Acting Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
[1] https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_9G2dN7P0T7gPqpD
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming
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It is not methodologically sound to continue using a survey which is unfit for purpose, regardless of how many people have responded. It is ethically questionable to continue using a survey which simply does not allow for the possibility of being completely wrong when this possibility has been brought up so many times by so many interested and affected parties. Cheers, Peter
-----Original Message----- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Nataliia Tymkiv Sent: 27 June 2020 01:27 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Board update on Branding: next steps
Dear all,
I want to share with you the next steps of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees about the Brand Project.
Originally the Board meeting dedicated to the brand project was supposed to happen no earlier than October. The expected outcome from the project were the recommendations on what the rebranding should look like - from changing fonts/logos to renaming. And if there is going to be a renaming - to what. Of course, the Board’s role is not in approving a change in fonts, but if a recommendation to rename was to be made - the Board’s role would have been to make a decision on that recommendation. The timeline has now been changed, and the renaming part of rebranding will be discussed in our August meeting.
Moreover, the Board will meet in early July to receive a briefing about the project and talk about the process between June 2018 - June 2020. The consolidated materials on what the brand project team has been working on for a while now will be presented to the Board, and these materials are also going to be posted publicly. The more-strategic conversation is planned for the August meeting. Time to prepare the materials is needed, and the ongoing conversations need to be summarised, so the Board can have an in-depth discussion about this, before making any kind of decision.
We would like to continue with the survey [1] - we have discussed the possibility of technical changes to the survey with an additional option like “no renaming is needed” (not the exact words, mind you), but with more than 700 respondents it is not methodologically sound to change the survey now. Staff have confirmed to the Board that responses to the survey will not be calculated as support for a change. The survey was only designed to collect feedback on the possible renaming options, not as a yes/no vote on whether to adopt them.
Thus the timeline on rebranding for the next 6-7 weeks is as follows:
* Early July - special Board meeting with the Brand project team to review and discuss the process so far, and for the Board members to receive the briefing on discussions happening;
* July - consolidated materials prepared for the July meeting will be posted publicly after the meeting;
* August 5th - the Board meeting on renaming part of the rebranding, not about the process. The Board will make the decision about whether to stop, pause, or continue the work on this, within the framework of a discussion on strategic goals, tensions and tradeoffs, and potential next steps.
* August (after the meeting) - the Board statement on the next steps about the Brand project.
I also want to acknowledge receiving the Community open letter on renaming [2] that was posted this week. Thank you for this statement on the position of those of you who signed. I know there are other perspectives, and that some would agree with it who have not signed it, and that there are also some who would not agree. We expect that the Board meetings and communication after them will address the concerns raised in the letter.
Stay safe, antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv Acting Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
[1] https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_9G2dN7P0T7gPqpD
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming
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A survey in which the board's decision cannot possibly be disputed sounds like a perfect fit rather than an unfit one.
On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 10:35 AM Peter Southwood < peter.southwood@telkomsa.net> wrote:
It is not methodologically sound to continue using a survey which is unfit for purpose, regardless of how many people have responded. It is ethically questionable to continue using a survey which simply does not allow for the possibility of being completely wrong when this possibility has been brought up so many times by so many interested and affected parties. Cheers, Peter
-----Original Message----- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Nataliia Tymkiv Sent: 27 June 2020 01:27 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Board update on Branding: next steps
Dear all,
I want to share with you the next steps of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees about the Brand Project.
Originally the Board meeting dedicated to the brand project was supposed to happen no earlier than October. The expected outcome from the project were the recommendations on what the rebranding should look like - from changing fonts/logos to renaming. And if there is going to be a renaming - to what. Of course, the Board’s role is not in approving a change in fonts, but if a recommendation to rename was to be made - the Board’s role would have been to make a decision on that recommendation. The timeline has now been changed, and the renaming part of rebranding will be discussed in our August meeting.
Moreover, the Board will meet in early July to receive a briefing about the project and talk about the process between June 2018 - June 2020. The consolidated materials on what the brand project team has been working on for a while now will be presented to the Board, and these materials are also going to be posted publicly. The more-strategic conversation is planned for the August meeting. Time to prepare the materials is needed, and the ongoing conversations need to be summarised, so the Board can have an in-depth discussion about this, before making any kind of decision.
We would like to continue with the survey [1] - we have discussed the possibility of technical changes to the survey with an additional option like “no renaming is needed” (not the exact words, mind you), but with more than 700 respondents it is not methodologically sound to change the survey now. Staff have confirmed to the Board that responses to the survey will not be calculated as support for a change. The survey was only designed to collect feedback on the possible renaming options, not as a yes/no vote on whether to adopt them.
Thus the timeline on rebranding for the next 6-7 weeks is as follows:
- Early July - special Board meeting with the Brand project team to review
and discuss the process so far, and for the Board members to receive the briefing on discussions happening;
- July - consolidated materials prepared for the July meeting will be
posted publicly after the meeting;
- August 5th - the Board meeting on renaming part of the rebranding, not
about the process. The Board will make the decision about whether to stop, pause, or continue the work on this, within the framework of a discussion on strategic goals, tensions and tradeoffs, and potential next steps.
- August (after the meeting) - the Board statement on the next steps about
the Brand project.
I also want to acknowledge receiving the Community open letter on renaming [2] that was posted this week. Thank you for this statement on the position of those of you who signed. I know there are other perspectives, and that some would agree with it who have not signed it, and that there are also some who would not agree. We expect that the Board meetings and communication after them will address the concerns raised in the letter.
Stay safe, antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv Acting Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
[1] https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_9G2dN7P0T7gPqpD
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming
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Thank you Nat,
Thank you for pushing up the timeline a bit on having this conversation - I agree that it's probably better not to stretch the conversation too much, before an updated process is decided upon.
Will you invite any other people to present additional information to the board? I think we all would like the board to be as fully informed as possible about this topic, and I couldn't reasonably expect all board members to read all discussions about this topic. I could for example imagine that you invite the framers of the open letter to provide a short presentation as well. This would be in acknowledgement that it's a very complex task for any team to collect data and insights that are contrary to what they saw as their instructions for several years.
As I also referred to in my 'asymmetry of power' comment in response to the executive statement on meta earlier, I believe this is core to many objections when highly disputed decisions are being made by the board: the voice of the part of the community that strongly feels about and disagrees with the proposal, is not in the room to make their case. I know there are some attempts being made in the strategy process to address this, but perhaps in the same spirit, the board could experiment a little with being more inclusive of such voices - especially now that is technically trivial as the meetings are all online anyway.
Warmly, Lodewijk
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 4:27 PM Nataliia Tymkiv ntymkiv@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dear all,
I want to share with you the next steps of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees about the Brand Project.
Originally the Board meeting dedicated to the brand project was supposed to happen no earlier than October. The expected outcome from the project were the recommendations on what the rebranding should look like - from changing fonts/logos to renaming. And if there is going to be a renaming - to what. Of course, the Board’s role is not in approving a change in fonts, but if a recommendation to rename was to be made - the Board’s role would have been to make a decision on that recommendation. The timeline has now been changed, and the renaming part of rebranding will be discussed in our August meeting.
Moreover, the Board will meet in early July to receive a briefing about the project and talk about the process between June 2018 - June 2020. The consolidated materials on what the brand project team has been working on for a while now will be presented to the Board, and these materials are also going to be posted publicly. The more-strategic conversation is planned for the August meeting. Time to prepare the materials is needed, and the ongoing conversations need to be summarised, so the Board can have an in-depth discussion about this, before making any kind of decision.
We would like to continue with the survey [1] - we have discussed the possibility of technical changes to the survey with an additional option like “no renaming is needed” (not the exact words, mind you), but with more than 700 respondents it is not methodologically sound to change the survey now. Staff have confirmed to the Board that responses to the survey will not be calculated as support for a change. The survey was only designed to collect feedback on the possible renaming options, not as a yes/no vote on whether to adopt them.
Thus the timeline on rebranding for the next 6-7 weeks is as follows:
- Early July - special Board meeting with the Brand project team to review
and discuss the process so far, and for the Board members to receive the briefing on discussions happening;
- July - consolidated materials prepared for the July meeting will be
posted publicly after the meeting;
- August 5th - the Board meeting on renaming part of the rebranding, not
about the process. The Board will make the decision about whether to stop, pause, or continue the work on this, within the framework of a discussion on strategic goals, tensions and tradeoffs, and potential next steps.
- August (after the meeting) - the Board statement on the next steps about
the Brand project.
I also want to acknowledge receiving the Community open letter on renaming [2] that was posted this week. Thank you for this statement on the position of those of you who signed. I know there are other perspectives, and that some would agree with it who have not signed it, and that there are also some who would not agree. We expect that the Board meetings and communication after them will address the concerns raised in the letter.
Stay safe, antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv Acting Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
[1] https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_9G2dN7P0T7gPqpD
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming
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