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CherianTinu Abraham

10 Jun 2011 10 Jun '11

12:09 p.m.

Interesting to see accounts with bot flags are also invited to vote for Board elections :) -Tinu Cherian ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Wikimedia Board Elections Committee < board-elections(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Date: Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 5:26 PM Subject: Wikimedia Foundation Elections 2009 To: TinucherianBot II <tinucherian(a)gmail.com> Dear TinucherianBot II, You are eligible to vote in the 2011 elections for the Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation, which operates projects such as Wikipedia. The Board of Trustees is the decision-making body that is ultimately responsible for the long term sustainability of the Foundation, so we value wide input into its selection. For more information, please see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2011/en . To remove yourself from future notification, please add your user name at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_nomail_list .

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Thehelpfulone

10 Jun 10 Jun

12:15 p.m.

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Certainly is, even more puzzling is my email for Thehelpfulbot, 2011/6/10 Wikimedia Board Elections Committee < board-elections(a)lists.wikimedia.org>

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Liebe(r) Thehelpfulbot, Du bist berechtigt, bei der Wahl des Kuratoriums der Wikimedia Foundation im Jahre 2011 mit abzustimmen, die Projekte wie Wikipedia betreibt. Das Kuratorium ist das Gremium, das letztendlich für die Strategie und den nachhaltigen Bestand der Stiftung verantwortlich ist. Deshalb bitten wir bei seiner Wahl um rege Teilnahme. Für weitere Informationen lies bitte http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2011/de . Um dich von weiteren Benachrichtigungen auszutragen, setze deinen Namen auf http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_nomail_list .

The bot has never edited the German Wikipedia, as you can see http://toolserver.org/~vvv/sulutil.php?user=Thehelpfulbot, the home wiki is en.wiki and it has only editing en.wiki, commons and metawiki. I checked my username in case it was doing it from email addresses, but I have never edited the German Wikipedia either, as shown by http://toolserver.org/~vvv/sulutil.php?user=Thehelpfulone. Very puzzling indeed! Thehelpfulone On 10 June 2011 13:09, CherianTinu Abraham <tinucherian(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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-- The Helpful One http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Thehelpfulone

Federico Leva (Nemo)

12:22 p.m.

On the contrary, I'm quite happy: the system recognized that my bot is mainly active on Wikiquote and is Italian although its home wiki is Wikipedia and it's not active on it.wikiquote. :) Errors are annoying but thank you very much to the sysadmin who volunteered for that (Andrew Garrett, I suppose), it's very important. Nemo -------- Messaggio originale -------- Oggetto: Wikimedia Foundation Elections 2009 Data: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:57:06 +0000 Mittente: Wikimedia Board Elections Committee A: AnankeBot Gentile AnankeBot, Siamo lieti di comunicare che hai diritto a partecipare alle elezioni del 2011 per il Consiglio Direttivo della Wikimedia Foundation, la quale gestisce numerosi progetti, tra cui anche Wikiquote. Il Consiglio Direttivo è l'organo decisionale avente l'ultima parola sulle scelte critiche della Foundation, quindi speriamo di avere la massima partecipazione possibile per la sua selezione. Per ulteriori informazioni visita la pagina http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2011/it . Se non intendi ricevere ulteriori notifiche in futuro, aggiungi il tuo nome utente su http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_nomail_list .

Andrew Garrett

12:42 p.m.

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On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:09 PM, CherianTinu Abraham <tinucherian(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Interesting to see accounts with bot flags are also invited to vote for Board elections :)

CherianTinu Abraham

2:06 p.m.

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May be it is a good idea to exclude accounts that has blog flag in at least one wiki. If it has bot has blog flag on at least one wiki, the global account can be considered as a bot. Otherwise it would give undue advantage to the bot operators like me for voting more than once ;) Regards Tinu Cherian On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Andrew Garrett <agarrett(a)wikimedia.org>wrote;wrote:

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On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:09 PM, CherianTinu Abraham <tinucherian(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Interesting to see accounts with bot flags are also invited to vote for Board elections :)

This bot isn't flagged on all wikis that it's eligible to vote. In particular, azwiki (I think). Accounts on wikis with blocked and bot accounts were excluded, but I didn't globally exclude them. —Andrew -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarrett(a)wikimedia.org _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Béria Lima

2:19 p.m.

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Well, i received a mail to my global bot account (Ripchip Bot) and the bot has - at least - 60 local bot flags. So we should assume there are no checking for bot flags at all. _____ *Béria Lima* <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos>.* 2011/6/10 CherianTinu Abraham <tinucherian(a)gmail.com>

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On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:09 PM, CherianTinu Abraham <tinucherian(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Interesting to see accounts with bot flags are also invited to vote for Board elections :)

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Andrew Garrett

2:41 p.m.

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On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Béria Lima <berialima(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Well, i received a mail to my global bot account (Ripchip Bot) and the bot has - at least - 60 local bot flags. So we should assume there are no checking for bot flags at all.

In this case, the bot qualified on Norwegian Wikipedia. It's looking like global bots which aren't flagged everywhere are an edge case that should be addressed next time around. -- Andrew Garrett Wikimedia Foundation agarrett(a)wikimedia.org

MZMcBride

3:03 p.m.

Andrew Garrett wrote:

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On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Béria Lima <berialima(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Well, i received a mail to my global bot account (Ripchip Bot) and the bot has - at least - 60 local bot flags. So we should assume there are no checking for bot flags at all.

In this case, the bot qualified on Norwegian Wikipedia. It's looking like global bots which aren't flagged everywhere are an edge case that should be addressed next time around.

It'd be nice if there were an eligibility check API or something. I know that Pathoschild and others have created Toolserver tools over the years to try to replicate eligibility requirements, but a function built-in to the SecurePoll extension or CentralAuth or whatever would be much better. It would allow for better e-mail targeting and better banner targeting, among other things. MZMcBride

Erik Moeller

5:14 p.m.

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On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Andrew Garrett <agarrett(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

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In this case, the bot qualified on Norwegian Wikipedia. It's looking like global bots which aren't flagged everywhere are an edge case that should be addressed next time around.

I for one welcome our new interwiki bot overlords. Thanks Andrew for getting this out, and our apologies for the quirks this time around. -- Erik Möller Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate

Marc A. Pelletier

3:27 p.m.

On 06/10/2011 08:09 AM, CherianTinu Abraham wrote:

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Interesting to see accounts with bot flags are also invited to vote for Board elections :)

CherianTinu Abraham

4:06 p.m.

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Now we know why all the bots were invited to vote this year ;P -Tinu Cherian On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Marc A. Pelletier <marc(a)uberbox.org> wrote:

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On 06/10/2011 08:09 AM, CherianTinu Abraham wrote:

Interesting to see accounts with bot flags are also invited to vote for Board elections :)

I'd like to take this opportunity to remind all the bots who have yet to vote that, as a bot writer and supporter, I pledge to keep their interests in mind if I am elected to the Board. -- Coren / Marc _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

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Andrew Garrett
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CherianTinu Abraham
Erik Moeller
Federico Leva (Nemo)
Marc A. Pelletier
MZMcBride
Thehelpfulone