On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:07 AM, Andre Engels<andreengels(a)gmail.com> wrote: A purely technical matter. As long as the community has consensus on the matter (and the change isn't just batshit crazy) there's no reason for the staff not to implement it. The real decision here is for the community. -Chad

Hoi, It is equally abundantly clear that the emotions run high whenever this issue is raised. There is one difference between this closure and all the others. When this project will be closed, it will not go to the incubator but will be deleted. This is in marked contrast with all the others. If I were a developer, I would not choose to do this job. I had to be TOLD to do the job. There is nothing positive about closing projects. Thanks, GerardM 2009/9/1 Bence Damokos <bdamokos(a)gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 07:04, Mark Williamson<node.ue(a)gmail.com> wrote: Stats briefing: 51 active, 850 registered editors, 401 content pages and total 2300 pages, 31 uploaded files. Looks like it's not really inactive, so I'd agree to move it to mo-cyr or something, there seem to be demand for it. grin ps: Mark&Gerard, thanks for the background! I guess then as a language it ought to go together with Romanian. The real problem is that I'm not sure whether the editors from this two region could work together at all, like obviously mo admins should be sysopped on ro wp, etc... Not sure whether any parties would like that to see to happen. :-P

It certainly should, ideally, be the same Wikipedia - in my opinion the ideal situation would have a converter on ro.wp. However, I don't think most Romanian Wikipedians would approve of this (as I mentioned earlier in the thread). Mark On 9/1/09, Peter Gervai <grinapo(a)gmail.com> wrote: -- skype: node.ue

No, they most certainly would not. However it's a bit of a moot point as if I recall correctly there were only 1 or 2 admins and they've both left since. Mark On 9/1/09, Peter Gervai <grinapo(a)gmail.com> wrote: -- skype: node.ue

It's more complex than that I think. "mo" was deleted from the list of ISO codes relatively recently; when the Wiki was created it was a valid ISO code. Now, "ro" applies to "Romanian", for which Moldovan is supposed to be an alternative name, however it seems inappropriate (although it may be technically correct at this point, the abrupt deletion of the code has mixed up my mind a lot) to call it a Romanian Wikipedia. As far as Peter's e-mail goes: there are no exact statistics, I don't think, for such political ideas however as of the last census, the majority reported speaking Moldovan (rather than Romanian); in the cities this was reversed however (as I recall). Electoral politics can also be a rough indicator of opinion and in that regard those who are Romanophiles and those who are Russophiles or independentists seem to be about equal in number. Whether or not Moldovans and Romanians are the same "people" and whether the language should be called Romanian or Moldovan is a hot topic in the country and a source of much contention. Also, the majority of Moldovans seems to be against union with Romania despite the fact that this would very likely be in their interests economically. I am certainly no expert on Hungary by any means but obviously the end of the Soviet era has left very differing results. I believe the opinion towards Russia and Russification in Poland is almost the opposite as that in Belarus, it's unreasonable to fit every country to the same mold. Some in Moldova still yearn for the old days of the USSR, and I can understand why they would in their case - they are currently the poorest country in Europe (besides Kosovo, if you consider it a country) and are really struggling. There are certainly those who, while they may not have been big fans of all Soviet policies, are nostalgic for many aspects of the era. Like I said, it is a complex issue. Also, from what I have heard (and this may be incorrect), the US Library of Congress deleted the MO code without consulting with any Moldovan authority which seems inappropriate. Imagine the outcry if those "experts" were to delete SR, HR, and BS codes in favor of SH without consulting any local authority? Mark On 9/1/09, Andre Engels <andreengels(a)gmail.com> wrote: -- skype: node.ue