In my role as storyteller I conduct many personal interviews with Wikimedia
volunteers, donors and staff.
I have several pages of interviews and photos of volunteers and donors(!)
that have been gracious enough to share their story with me and the
WMF. Each person who has been interviewed as part of my role has signed a
legal release to 'share their story'. I keep the raw, unpolished interviews
on pages on the password protected:
knowing that they are
available only to myself and staff at the WMF. I use that raw material to
release polished works like this:
. During the course of an
interview, people sometimes say things that when reviewed later, they wish
they hadn't. Out of respect and decency for those interviewed, I want each
person alerted every time WMF plans to use their story, should that person
not want that information released. I won't 'hide' behind a legal waiver
and do whatever when someone shares a story with the WMF.
I also need to be able to share the interviews with others at WMF because
they may have instances when they need to illustrate something with a
personal story (that is my job) and it can be more convenient for them to
review these stories on an organized page than to have to ask me to be a
librarian for them and suggest a story.
Privacy is very important, and I have to take it seriously. I could remove
all the interviews from the office wiki and keep them offline, but I would
not feel comfortable making the material public without passing it by all
those interviewed first, which would take a lot of time to do, since I'm
nearing almost 2 years of interviews.
All this said, I am all in favor of making as much content as possible on
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Everton Zanella Alvarenga <
Hi Phoebe and all,
I am not say if saying this is wrong or brakes the confidentiality contract
I've signed as a contractor. My apologies if it is wrong, but I think it is
not. I am sorry to say there are some documents of projects I have been
working on that I believe could be done directly on meta or some other
public wiki. There are some cases, yes, some more elaborated document
should be done to be released in public, but I don't think it is always the
I believe we are wasting resources and energy in some cases not using the
community intelligence and knowledge, even having very high qualified
professionals working on this documents, as it is the case I have seen so
far. Closed mailing lists, closed wikis, closed working groups, closed
meetings... all this doesn't make me feel comfortable, to be honest.
I don't want create a pandemonium here. My opinion here is just to share
one thing I've felt that can diminish the power of crowdsourcing we are all
used to and I believe we have to think ways to improve that.
Wikimediaworld it too complex, there is too much information, projects
going on and it is really difficult to organize all that.
For instance, there is this https://collab.wikimedia.org
What is this
I have receive (maybe?) one e-mail about this wiki and once I've seen a lot
of crucial and important answers for the Brazil program were there. I
cannot understand why it is not public. Really. Just to you have an idea,
I've asked in December to have this collab (Collab of collaboration?) wiki
to be on the main page of office wiki, but no answer so far.
The organization has grown too fast and maybe it is time to rethink our
best practices and how we operate, analysing everything we are using,
creating a kind of guide, mainly for those professionals that will arrive?
If I am not wrong, how can we do that?
I love this from another group
"Running through all of our activities is a strong emphasis on
collaboration*. In particular, a primary aim is to help others develop open
material as well as creating it ourselves. We believe that the future lies
in collaboration between a multitude of different groups and that *no one
group or organisation can, or should try to, “do it all*”. It is when we
work together that we are the strongest."
and I am not saying it is easy to implement it. But we have to be self
critical on how to achieve this, for those who agree it is a better way to
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 5:39 PM, phoebe ayers <phoebe.wiki(a)gmail.com>
You're being snarky, but I am going to take this as a good-faith
I have access to the office wiki, left-over from being a board member,
though I do not edit there and have only accessed it a couple of times
the years. I think I can safely say without
it is mainly used as a tool to run a discrete,
physical, boring office.
is where you will find things like staff phone
numbers, info on the
employee health plans, how to send to the office printers, and how to
submit an expense report.
As on internal, there's also lots of outdated stuff, like old notes from
2008 staff meetings; there are scratchpad idea pages that probably could
elsewhere, and there are some pages about
department functions and
drafts that I'm sure no one would mind being
on meta, but much of the
interesting stuff is public (the annual plan, the communications
and as far as I can see with a quick scan there
are not large-scale
discussions happening there.
So, back to the start of the thread: using a wiki effectively does seem
like a scoping question, yes, and I think internal (and any other
internal/private wiki) would benefit from specific scoping like Mike
proposes; his suggestions seem reasonable to me. I think I can also say
without violating confidentiality that almost all of the mail to the
internal list in the last few months has not been discussion focused, but
rather has been notices of chapter board elections, meetings and reports,
and I would love to see all that traffic be public (even if it's on a
separate list so not everyone has to get the notices if they're not
interested) -- there's nothing inherently confidential about it, and it
would be nice for that info to be easily findable.
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