Well this is on one hand to inform you about what we are going to do/try to do and on the other to tell people: if you want to do the same, just do it.
Jeff has this wordlist he uses for the machine translation of the Cherokee wikipedia. Well, since I want to try to do the same for Neapolitan he told me to download it and substitute the Cherokee words with Neapolitan words. Said and done :-) I downloaded the list. Talking with GerardM about uploading it I sent him the list and he put it on WiktionaryZ (thank you!):
http://www.wiktionaryz.org/index.php?title=MachineTranslation_preparation_1 http://www.wiktionaryz.org/index.php?title=MachineTranslation_preparation_2 http://www.wiktionaryz.org/index.php?title=MachineTranslation_preparation_3 http://www.wiktionaryz.org/index.php?title=MachineTranslation_preparation_4
Jeff: could you please confirm that we may use the list in this way under GFDL and CC-BY?
Well, what will happen now: I will start to create the needed entries in English and add the Neapolitan translations to it. Probably also Italian and as soon as we have Cherokee online I'll copy and paste these words there as well (always if I get the OK for it).
Once that is done we can go on with teaching the translation engine the grammar rules :-)
Now people will say and if it does not work ... well something tells me it will work ... and besides creating a basis for Machine Translation in this way also a dictionary is created. So one effort with double result.
Therefore I invite all that are interested in doing similar things to follow us in our adventure ... well yes, that's how I consider it: a huge adventure in the world of languages. Probably some that will start after me to work on this list will be faster ... it would be great to see that - there is always that time problem (at least for me).
Well this is the first time when we will see one of the WiktionaryZ features in action: reusability for other projects - in this case for our wikipedias.
Thank you Jeff for taking the time to work on our languages.
Ciao, Sabine Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale! http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com
Dearest Sabine,
All rights under the identified word listings are hereby released under the GFDL for use in machine translation and language preservation efforts of the WikiMedia Foundation and the Wikipedia Community. This release includes but is not limited to:
lexicons, word lists, thesaraus, rule sets for mahcine translation, grammar references, and any materials created or contributed which originate under the the terms of the GFDL.
This release DOES NOT apply to any proprietary language materials not released into the public domain which comprise lexicons, word lists, grammar references, thesaurus, or rule sets which are subject to separate confidentiality agreements and which have not been placed into the public domain by interested parties for any Native American Languages or Language Contributors who choose to keep their proprietary materials protected. This applies to those languages and groups who may have cultural basis for protecting their languages due to religious or other concerns.
Those lexicon and word lists identified by Sabine and uploaded to:
http://www.wiktionaryz.org/index.php?title=MachineTranslation_preparation_1 http://www.wiktionaryz.org/index.php?title=MachineTranslation_preparation_2 http://www.wiktionaryz.org/index.php?title=MachineTranslation_preparation_3 http://www.wiktionaryz.org/index.php?title=MachineTranslation_preparation_4
are hereby forever irrevocably released under the GFDL and WiktionaryZ shall serve as the repository for not only these lists, but also the rule set and grammar parsing rule scripts for the Wikitrans program for any identified target languages.
Completed word lists will be used to perform Machine Translation runs against the English Wikipedia on a regular basis. Sabine is hereby appointed as coordinator on behalf of the Wolf Mountain Group to manage any and all Wikimedia and Wikipedia coordination efforts for this program on behalf of the Community and may request access to WMG servers and facilties for maintenance and coordination efforts.
Signed,
Jeffrey Vernon Merkey Chairman Wolf Mountain Group, LLC
Sabine Cretella wrote:
Well this is on one hand to inform you about what we are going to do/try to do and on the other to tell people: if you want to do the same, just do it.
Jeff has this wordlist he uses for the machine translation of the Cherokee wikipedia. Well, since I want to try to do the same for Neapolitan he told me to download it and substitute the Cherokee words with Neapolitan words. Said and done :-) I downloaded the list. Talking with GerardM about uploading it I sent him the list and he put it on WiktionaryZ (thank you!):
http://www.wiktionaryz.org/index.php?title=MachineTranslation_preparation_1 http://www.wiktionaryz.org/index.php?title=MachineTranslation_preparation_2 http://www.wiktionaryz.org/index.php?title=MachineTranslation_preparation_3 http://www.wiktionaryz.org/index.php?title=MachineTranslation_preparation_4
Jeff: could you please confirm that we may use the list in this way under GFDL and CC-BY?
Well, what will happen now: I will start to create the needed entries in English and add the Neapolitan translations to it. Probably also Italian and as soon as we have Cherokee online I'll copy and paste these words there as well (always if I get the OK for it).
Once that is done we can go on with teaching the translation engine the grammar rules :-)
Now people will say and if it does not work ... well something tells me it will work ... and besides creating a basis for Machine Translation in this way also a dictionary is created. So one effort with double result.
Therefore I invite all that are interested in doing similar things to follow us in our adventure ... well yes, that's how I consider it: a huge adventure in the world of languages. Probably some that will start after me to work on this list will be faster ... it would be great to see that - there is always that time problem (at least for me).
Well this is the first time when we will see one of the WiktionaryZ features in action: reusability for other projects - in this case for our wikipedias.
Thank you Jeff for taking the time to work on our languages.
Ciao, Sabine Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale! http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Dear Jeff, Dear all,
Thank you Jeff for granting us GFDL license for the list :-)
Well if some of you want to work on the list and you have questions on how to do that within WiktionaryZ, please contact me.
I had to further subdivide it since otherwise the server would have had some problems, but the original four pages are kept there as they were. Please start from here: http://www.wiktionaryz.org/MachineTranslation_preparation
Starting to wok with the material brought up some thoughts and considerations which I wrote down on the wz-blog: http://wiktionaryz.blogspot.com/2006/09/wiktionaryz-and-machine-translation....
Sorry for taking some time.
Best wishes from Italy!
Sabine
Jeff V. Merkey schrieb:
Dearest Sabine,
All rights under the identified word listings are hereby released under the GFDL for use in machine translation and language preservation efforts of the WikiMedia Foundation and the Wikipedia Community. This release includes but is not limited to:
lexicons, word lists, thesaraus, rule sets for mahcine translation, grammar references, and any materials created or contributed which originate under the the terms of the GFDL.
..... Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale! http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com
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