FYI - silly headline for a self-serving (for The Observer) article.
Yes, Wikipedia is defying Chinese censors by... er... well... doing nothing and being itself.
-Andrew (User:Fuzheado)
---- Wikipedia defies China's censors
David Smith and Jo Revill Sunday September 10, 2006 The Observer
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1869006,00.html
On 9/11/06, Andrew Lih andrew.lih@gmail.com wrote:
FYI - silly headline for a self-serving (for The Observer) article.
Yes, Wikipedia is defying Chinese censors by... er... well... doing nothing and being itself.
-Andrew (User:Fuzheado)
Wikipedia defies China's censors
David Smith and Jo Revill Sunday September 10, 2006 The Observer
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1869006,00.html
Particularly ironic considering The Observers "useful idiot" role in aiding and abetting the scientologists (successful) campaign to shut down anon.penet.fi.
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
Wikipedia defies China's censors
It's their country, it's communist, and there are not guaranteed rights for those people. I find it interesting to discuss the Demoncratic Revolt with the censors - I doubt they want salt rubbed in that old wound and embrassment for their government . Near as I can tell, most of the hacking is done by their government officials anyway to shut down Wikipedia mirror and primary sites. They've been hacking wikigadugi.org since it was setup to the point I have disabled SSHD on the external Intenet addresses for the Server Proxy Caches. I've got the DNS entries setup to randomly swap out unique Dynamic IP addresses for China IP ranges for the proxies so their blocking does not work at my site - it cycles through new IP addresses about once a week, and from what I can tell several schools in China are getting access to the English content.
Jeff
Demoncratic Revolt? I like it, but is sounds spooky ;-)
From: "Jeffrey V. Merkey" jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com
I find it interesting to discuss the Demoncratic Revolt with the censors
Bradypus wrote:
Demoncratic Revolt? I like it, but is sounds spooky ;-)
From: "Jeffrey V. Merkey" jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com
I find it interesting to discuss the Demoncratic Revolt with the censors
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typo. I meant "democratic".
:-)
Jeff
On 9/11/06, Jeffrey V. Merkey jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com wrote:
It's their country, it's communist, and there are not guaranteed rights for those people.
But they obviously missed the fact that Wikipedia Is Communism(TM).
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Jon Harald Søby wrote:
On 9/11/06, Jeffrey V. Merkey jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com wrote:
It's their country, it's communist, and there are not guaranteed rights for those people.
But they obviously missed the fact that Wikipedia Is Communism(TM).
It's democratic actually (a primitive form of democracy) with a little right wing thrown in for good measure. Community concesus and all.
Jeff
Andrew Lih wrote:
FYI - silly headline for a self-serving (for The Observer) article.
Yes, Wikipedia is defying Chinese censors by... er... well... doing nothing and being itself.
Wikipedia defies China's censors
David Smith and Jo Revill Sunday September 10, 2006 The Observer
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1869006,00.html
I couldn't help noticing the paragraphs at the end:
Sergey Brin, co-founder of Google, has said that the company compromised its principles by accepting Chinese censorship. He said it was 'a set of rules that we weren't comfortable with.'
With capitalism as a guiding principle he's uncomfortable all the way to the bank.
· Members of the US Congress have championed the Global Online Freedom Act in a bid to stop major internet companies co-operating with regimes that restrict free expression, including Belarus, China, Cuba, Ethiopia, Iran, Laos, North Korea, Tunisia and Vietnam.
The US Congress is, as ever, secure in the belief that two wrongs do make a right. Apart from China, have any of these taken consistent steps against Wikipedia. Even North Korea doesn't discriminate against us; apparently it just blocks everything.
Ec
On 9/11/06, Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net wrote:
Even North Korea doesn't discriminate against us; apparently it just blocks everything.
Generally agreed with slight difference <grin>. As I watched a TV documentary in Japan, we cannot say if they block anything. In this show, they interviewed at a certain universitiy, faculty of technology, and all PCs were simply accessible only to the intranet. I bet my two yen for that most of North Korean residents don't know us, unless visitors told them about us ......
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