First complex interactive graph in Wikipedia explores the most expensive paintings in history. Move the mouse around to view images, click the period or artist to highlight their work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_paintings#Interactive_g...
Thank you Jane [[user:Jhoffswell]], the VegaJS team, and [[user:Primaler]] who designed the original graph!
P.S. See graph demo page for examples and tutorial links https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph/Demo
P.P.S. The "click to open a page" feature is still missing in Graphs extension, but is on my todo list.
This is really cool, Yuri! Thank you for sharing this.
Risker
On 22 February 2016 at 22:15, Yuri Astrakhan yastrakhan@wikimedia.org wrote:
First complex interactive graph in Wikipedia explores the most expensive paintings in history. Move the mouse around to view images, click the period or artist to highlight their work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_paintings#Interactive_g...
Thank you Jane [[user:Jhoffswell]], the VegaJS team, and [[user:Primaler]] who designed the original graph!
P.S. See graph demo page for examples and tutorial links https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph/Demo
P.P.S. The "click to open a page" feature is still missing in Graphs extension, but is on my todo list. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
I have this funny feeling that we're about to see like a million of these happen. I wonder if this is how people felt around 2005 : )
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:23 PM, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
This is really cool, Yuri! Thank you for sharing this.
Risker
On 22 February 2016 at 22:15, Yuri Astrakhan yastrakhan@wikimedia.org wrote:
First complex interactive graph in Wikipedia explores the most expensive paintings in history. Move the mouse around to view images, click the period or artist to highlight their work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_paintings#Interactive_g...
Thank you Jane [[user:Jhoffswell]], the VegaJS team, and
[[user:Primaler]]
who designed the original graph!
P.S. See graph demo page for examples and tutorial links https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph/Demo
P.P.S. The "click to open a page" feature is still missing in Graphs extension, but is on my todo list. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:25 PM, Dan Andreescu dandreescu@wikimedia.org wrote:
I have this funny feeling that we're about to see like a million of these happen. I wonder if this is how people felt around 2005 : )
Based on how long it took me to make this one (following the theme), it may be closer to what happened when easyTimeline extension came out. But if a few simple templates get a more streamlined UI for entering data, or a way to enter a range of wikidata items, who knows... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_books#Interactive_graph
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:23 PM, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
This is really cool, Yuri! Thank you for sharing this.
Risker
On 22 February 2016 at 22:15, Yuri Astrakhan yastrakhan@wikimedia.org wrote:
First complex interactive graph in Wikipedia explores the most
expensive
paintings in history. Move the mouse around to view images, click the period or artist to highlight their work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_paintings#Interactive_g...
Thank you Jane [[user:Jhoffswell]], the VegaJS team, and
[[user:Primaler]]
who designed the original graph!
P.S. See graph demo page for examples and tutorial links https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph/Demo
P.P.S. The "click to open a page" feature is still missing in Graphs extension, but is on my todo list. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Sam, I would recommend starting from the interactive graph tutorial
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph/Interactive_Graph_Tutorial
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Sam Klein sjklein@hcs.harvard.edu wrote:
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:25 PM, Dan Andreescu dandreescu@wikimedia.org wrote:
I have this funny feeling that we're about to see like a million of these happen. I wonder if this is how people felt around 2005 : )
Based on how long it took me to make this one (following the theme), it may be closer to what happened when easyTimeline extension came out. But if a few simple templates get a more streamlined UI for entering data, or a way to enter a range of wikidata items, who knows...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_books#Interactive_graph
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:23 PM, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
This is really cool, Yuri! Thank you for sharing this.
Risker
On 22 February 2016 at 22:15, Yuri Astrakhan <yastrakhan@wikimedia.org
wrote:
First complex interactive graph in Wikipedia explores the most
expensive
paintings in history. Move the mouse around to view images, click the period or artist to highlight their work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_paintings#Interactive_g...
Thank you Jane [[user:Jhoffswell]], the VegaJS team, and
[[user:Primaler]]
who designed the original graph!
P.S. See graph demo page for examples and tutorial links https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph/Demo
P.P.S. The "click to open a page" feature is still missing in Graphs extension, but is on my todo list. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:
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I'm planning to make a short promotional video to share on the Wikipedia social media channels about graphs, once more of them are embedded into Wikipedia pages (so that I can get real screenshots). Right now, there are only a few articles that use this new feature: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:PagesWithProp/graph_specs...
I'd like to have actual examples of each one of these to show: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph/Demo
So if anyone creates new graphs, please feel free to email me ( vgrigas@wikimedia.org) and I'll try adding your work to the video.
I was excited when I saw this too! Great Job Yuri, Jane [[user:Jhoffswell]], the VegaJS team, and [[user:Primaler]]!
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Yuri Astrakhan yastrakhan@wikimedia.org wrote:
Sam, I would recommend starting from the interactive graph tutorial
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph/Interactive_Graph_Tutorial
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Sam Klein sjklein@hcs.harvard.edu wrote:
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:25 PM, Dan Andreescu <
dandreescu@wikimedia.org>
wrote:
I have this funny feeling that we're about to see like a million of
these
happen. I wonder if this is how people felt around 2005 : )
Based on how long it took me to make this one (following the theme), it
may
be closer to what happened when easyTimeline extension came out. But if
a
few simple templates get a more streamlined UI for entering data, or a
way
to enter a range of wikidata items, who knows...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_books#Interactive_graph
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:23 PM, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
This is really cool, Yuri! Thank you for sharing this.
Risker
On 22 February 2016 at 22:15, Yuri Astrakhan <
yastrakhan@wikimedia.org
wrote:
First complex interactive graph in Wikipedia explores the most
expensive
paintings in history. Move the mouse around to view images, click
the
period or artist to highlight their work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_paintings#Interactive_g...
Thank you Jane [[user:Jhoffswell]], the VegaJS team, and
[[user:Primaler]]
who designed the original graph!
P.S. See graph demo page for examples and tutorial links https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph/Demo
P.P.S. The "click to open a page" feature is still missing in
Graphs
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So nice - I just spent 10 minutes playing with this with friends over dinner. It's tough to construct a new one without a debugger, though.
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Yuri Astrakhan yastrakhan@wikimedia.org wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_paintings#Interactive_g...
Thank you Jane [[user:Jhoffswell]], the VegaJS team, and [[user:Primaler]] who designed the original graph!
Yes!
This... is... amazing!! The idea of commonly seeing these on Wikipedia pages fills me with immense joy!
It seems to me like we might be able to kick off a big project to create and promote useful templates and guides for creating these. The dataviz movement is very popular among designers and journalists, and they're always looking for tools, lessons and data to practise on. Are there any existing efforts to popularise this, or would anyone like to help me do so?
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On 23 February 2016 at 03:15, Yuri Astrakhan yastrakhan@wikimedia.org wrote:
First complex interactive graph in Wikipedia explores the most expensive paintings in history. Move the mouse around to view images, click the period or artist to highlight their work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_paintings#Interactive_g...
Thank you Jane [[user:Jhoffswell]], the VegaJS team, and [[user:Primaler]] who designed the original graph!
P.S. See graph demo page for examples and tutorial links https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph/Demo
P.P.S. The "click to open a page" feature is still missing in Graphs extension, but is on my todo list. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Amazing stuff! This is going to change the face of Wikipedia.
Best! Subhashish Panigrahi Programme Officer, Access To Knowledge Centre for Internet and Society @subhapa / https://cis-india.org
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This... is... amazing!! The idea of commonly seeing these on Wikipedia pages fills me with immense joy!
It seems to me like we might be able to kick off a big project to create and promote useful templates and guides for creating these. The dataviz movement is very popular among designers and journalists, and they're always looking for tools, lessons and data to practise on. Are there any existing efforts to popularise this, or would anyone like to help me do so?
*Edward Saperia* Founder Newspeak House http://www.nwspk.com/ Conference Director Wikimania 2014 http://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org email edsaperia@gmail.com • facebook http://www.facebook.com/edsaperia • twitter http://www.twitter.com/edsaperia • 07796955572 133-135 Bethnal Green Road, E2 7DG
On 23 February 2016 at 03:15, Yuri Astrakhan yastrakhan@wikimedia.org wrote:
First complex interactive graph in Wikipedia explores the most expensive paintings in history. Move the mouse around to view images, click the period or artist to highlight their work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_paintings#Interactive_g...
Thank you Jane [[user:Jhoffswell]], the VegaJS team, and [[user:Primaler]] who designed the original graph!
P.S. See graph demo page for examples and tutorial links https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph/Demo
P.P.S. The "click to open a page" feature is still missing in Graphs extension, but is on my todo list. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Especially once it supports the Wikidata query engine.
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 1:12 PM subhashish@cis-india.org wrote:
Amazing stuff! This is going to change the face of Wikipedia.
Best! Subhashish Panigrahi Programme Officer, Access To Knowledge Centre for Internet and Society @subhapa / https://cis-india.org
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This... is... amazing!! The idea of commonly seeing these on Wikipedia pages fills me with immense joy!
It seems to me like we might be able to kick off a big project to create and promote useful templates and guides for creating these. The dataviz movement is very popular among designers and journalists, and they're always looking for tools, lessons and data to practise on. Are there any existing efforts to popularise this, or would anyone like to help me do so?
*Edward Saperia* Founder Newspeak House http://www.nwspk.com/ Conference Director Wikimania 2014 http://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org email edsaperia@gmail.com • facebook http://www.facebook.com/edsaperia • twitter http://www.twitter.com/edsaperia • 07796955572 133-135 Bethnal Green Road, E2 7DG
On 23 February 2016 at 03:15, Yuri Astrakhan yastrakhan@wikimedia.org wrote:
First complex interactive graph in Wikipedia explores the most expensive paintings in history. Move the mouse around to view images, click the period or artist to highlight their work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_paintings#Interactive_g...
Thank you Jane [[user:Jhoffswell]], the VegaJS team, and
[[user:Primaler]]
who designed the original graph!
P.S. See graph demo page for examples and tutorial links https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph/Demo
P.P.S. The "click to open a page" feature is still missing in Graphs extension, but is on my todo list. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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At some point, probably soon, my skills will no longer be needed on the analytics team. When that happens I plan to switch focus to helping popularize this kind of content. Probably by contributing to or forking Lyra: http://idl.cs.washington.edu/projects/lyra/
Yes very few people are going to use it at first. But eventually we can make this kind of knowledge creation as smooth as article editing.
On Tuesday, February 23, 2016, Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
Especially once it supports the Wikidata query engine.
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 1:12 PM <subhashish@cis-india.org javascript:;> wrote:
Amazing stuff! This is going to change the face of Wikipedia.
Best! Subhashish Panigrahi Programme Officer, Access To Knowledge Centre for Internet and Society @subhapa / https://cis-india.org
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This... is... amazing!! The idea of commonly seeing these on Wikipedia pages fills me with immense joy!
It seems to me like we might be able to kick off a big project to create and promote useful templates and guides for creating these. The dataviz movement is very popular among designers and journalists, and they're always looking for tools, lessons and data to practise on. Are there any existing efforts to popularise this, or would anyone like to help me do
so?
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On 23 February 2016 at 03:15, Yuri Astrakhan <yastrakhan@wikimedia.org
wrote:
First complex interactive graph in Wikipedia explores the most
expensive
paintings in history. Move the mouse around to view images, click the period or artist to highlight their work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_paintings#Interactive_g...
Thank you Jane [[user:Jhoffswell]], the VegaJS team, and
[[user:Primaler]]
who designed the original graph!
P.S. See graph demo page for examples and tutorial links https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph/Demo
P.P.S. The "click to open a page" feature is still missing in Graphs extension, but is on my todo list. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:;
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Who said you cannot already use Wikidata Query service? ))
https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph/Demo/Sparql/Largest_disasters
Limitation at the moment - not enabled for interactive graphs yet until we make better caching. On Feb 23, 2016 16:17, "Magnus Manske" magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
Especially once it supports the Wikidata query engine.
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 1:12 PM subhashish@cis-india.org wrote:
Amazing stuff! This is going to change the face of Wikipedia.
Best! Subhashish Panigrahi Programme Officer, Access To Knowledge Centre for Internet and Society @subhapa / https://cis-india.org
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This... is... amazing!! The idea of commonly seeing these on Wikipedia pages fills me with immense joy!
It seems to me like we might be able to kick off a big project to create and promote useful templates and guides for creating these. The dataviz movement is very popular among designers and journalists, and they're always looking for tools, lessons and data to practise on. Are there any existing efforts to popularise this, or would anyone like to help me do
so?
*Edward Saperia* Founder Newspeak House http://www.nwspk.com/ Conference Director Wikimania 2014 http://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org email edsaperia@gmail.com • facebook <
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• twitter http://www.twitter.com/edsaperia • 07796955572 133-135 Bethnal Green Road, E2 7DG
On 23 February 2016 at 03:15, Yuri Astrakhan yastrakhan@wikimedia.org wrote:
First complex interactive graph in Wikipedia explores the most
expensive
paintings in history. Move the mouse around to view images, click the period or artist to highlight their work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_paintings#Interactive_g...
Thank you Jane [[user:Jhoffswell]], the VegaJS team, and
[[user:Primaler]]
who designed the original graph!
P.S. See graph demo page for examples and tutorial links https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph/Demo
P.P.S. The "click to open a page" feature is still missing in Graphs extension, but is on my todo list. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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I just saw! Exciting!!!
(I guess un-cached interactive graphs would make the "largest disasters" list ;-)
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 1:50 PM Yuri Astrakhan yastrakhan@wikimedia.org wrote:
Who said you cannot already use Wikidata Query service? ))
https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph/Demo/Sparql/Largest_disasters
Limitation at the moment - not enabled for interactive graphs yet until we make better caching. On Feb 23, 2016 16:17, "Magnus Manske" magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
Especially once it supports the Wikidata query engine.
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 1:12 PM subhashish@cis-india.org wrote:
Amazing stuff! This is going to change the face of Wikipedia.
Best! Subhashish Panigrahi Programme Officer, Access To Knowledge Centre for Internet and Society @subhapa / https://cis-india.org
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Saperia" edsaperia@gmail.com To: "UK Wikimedia mailing list" wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 6:38:53 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Powerful on-wiki art visualization
This... is... amazing!! The idea of commonly seeing these on Wikipedia pages fills me with immense joy!
It seems to me like we might be able to kick off a big project to
create
and promote useful templates and guides for creating these. The dataviz movement is very popular among designers and journalists, and they're always looking for tools, lessons and data to practise on. Are there
any
existing efforts to popularise this, or would anyone like to help me do
so?
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On 23 February 2016 at 03:15, Yuri Astrakhan <yastrakhan@wikimedia.org
wrote:
First complex interactive graph in Wikipedia explores the most
expensive
paintings in history. Move the mouse around to view images, click the period or artist to highlight their work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_paintings#Interactive_g...
Thank you Jane [[user:Jhoffswell]], the VegaJS team, and
[[user:Primaler]]
who designed the original graph!
P.S. See graph demo page for examples and tutorial links https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph/Demo
P.P.S. The "click to open a page" feature is still missing in Graphs extension, but is on my todo list. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:
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