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GorillaWarfare

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Steven Crossin

22 Feb 22 Feb

12:31 p.m.

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Thank you Molly. This is indeed helpful? *Steven Crossin* *cro0016(a)gmail.com <cro0016(a)gmail.com>* On 22 February 2016 at 23:20, GorillaWarfare < gorillawarfarewikipedia(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Recent discussion of the Knowledge Engine/Wikimedia Discovery project, issues with senior leadership, lack of transparency, and the like has been fairly well spread across several Wikimedia projects and mailing lists, as well as on Facebook, in the media, and in other venues. I just published an attempt to aggregate some of the events that I think are particularly informative given what's been going on: http://mollywhite.net/wikimedia-timeline/ I hope it's helpful, and please feel free to suggest changes if it's incomplete. – Molly (GorillaWarfare) _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

Chris Keating

12:37 p.m.

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Yes - very handy - thanks GorillaWarfare! On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Steven Crossin <cro0016(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Thank you Molly. This is indeed helpful? *Steven Crossin* *cro0016(a)gmail.com <cro0016(a)gmail.com>* On 22 February 2016 at 23:20, GorillaWarfare < gorillawarfarewikipedia(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Recent discussion of the Knowledge Engine/Wikimedia Discovery project, issues with senior leadership, lack of transparency, and the like has

been

fairly well spread across several Wikimedia projects and mailing lists,

well as on Facebook, in the media, and in other venues. I just published an attempt to aggregate some of the events that I think are particularly informative given what's been going on: http://mollywhite.net/wikimedia-timeline/ I hope it's helpful, and please feel free to suggest changes if it's incomplete. – Molly (GorillaWarfare) _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

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Steven Crossin

12:43 p.m.

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minor correction - the ? in my reply was meant to be a period. I'll be keeping an eye on this timeline and watch the events unfold. *Steven Crossin* *cro0016(a)gmail.com <cro0016(a)gmail.com>* On 22 February 2016 at 23:37, Chris Keating <chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Yes - very handy - thanks GorillaWarfare! On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Steven Crossin <cro0016(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you Molly. This is indeed helpful? *Steven Crossin* *cro0016(a)gmail.com <cro0016(a)gmail.com>* On 22 February 2016 at 23:20, GorillaWarfare < gorillawarfarewikipedia(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Recent discussion of the Knowledge Engine/Wikimedia Discovery project, issues with senior leadership, lack of transparency, and the like has

been

fairly well spread across several Wikimedia projects and mailing lists,

as > well as on Facebook, in the media, and in other venues. > > I just published an attempt to aggregate some of the events that I

think

are particularly informative given what's been going on: http://mollywhite.net/wikimedia-timeline/ I hope it's helpful, and please feel free to suggest changes if it's incomplete. – Molly (GorillaWarfare) _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

Florence Devouard

12:43 p.m.

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Le 22/02/16 13:20, GorillaWarfare a écrit :

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Molly... Thank you ! Amazing job. Florence

MZMcBride

23 Feb 23 Feb

12:40 a.m.

GorillaWarfare wrote:

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Thank you very much for creating and publishing this timeline, Molly. I really appreciate that you built the timeline in a way that enables tracking changes and allows for collaborative improvements. Well done! MZMcBride

GorillaWarfare

1:06 a.m.

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Andreas Kolbe

2:30 a.m.

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Beautiful work. Thank you. Andreas On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 1:06 AM, GorillaWarfare < gorillawarfarewikipedia(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Thank you all so much for your feedback! I've just gone through all the suggestions that you've sent via emails, messages, IRCs, and pull requests and am really thrilled with all the help. I believe I'm caught up (for now!) with reading through all that I've received, and I've incorporated many of them! – Molly (GorillaWarfare) _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

Sam Klein

1:36 a.m.

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Molly, How beautiful and open. The categories & a narrative-free presentation makes it especially useful. SJ On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 7:40 PM, MZMcBride <z(a)mzmcbride.com> wrote:

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I just published an attempt to aggregate some of the events that I think are particularly informative given what's been going on: http://mollywhite.net/wikimedia-timeline/

Todd Allen

2:35 a.m.

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Yes, very nicely done indeed. I very much like that layout. On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 5:20 AM, GorillaWarfare < gorillawarfarewikipedia(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Dan Andreescu

3:28 a.m.

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Thank you! For providing context to those that don't have it, structure to those who do, and evidence of our values of collaboration, openness, and empiricism. Remarkable thing to accomplish with a timeline : ) On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Todd Allen <toddmallen(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Yes, very nicely done indeed. I very much like that layout. On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 5:20 AM, GorillaWarfare < gorillawarfarewikipedia(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Recent discussion of the Knowledge Engine/Wikimedia Discovery project, issues with senior leadership, lack of transparency, and the like has

been

fairly well spread across several Wikimedia projects and mailing lists,

Gerard Meijssen

6:30 a.m.

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Hoi, All the shit from mailinglists is missing. For the temperature aka the understanding of the developments it is certainly as potent as some of the departures. Thanks, GerardM On 22 February 2016 at 13:20, GorillaWarfare < gorillawarfarewikipedia(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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GorillaWarfare

6:43 a.m.

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On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 1:30 AM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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All the shit from mailinglists is missing. For the temperature aka the understanding of the developments it is certainly as potent as some of the departures.

Hi Gerard, Quite a few of the entries refer to mailing list posts. I am aware that responses to the "An Open Letter to Wikimedia Foundation BoT" thread are missing, and I plan to go through and add the particularly relevant ones later (unfortunately real life—that is, homework—has gotten in the way). If you think that there are other emails from the list that should be included, please let me know (via email or PR) specifically which and why. Although I do keep an eye on Wikimedia-l and other Wikimedia mailing lists, I know I do not watch them as closely as you or some other members of the list, so your help would be appreciated in identifying the particularly important gaps. – Molly (GorillaWarfare)

Theo10011

7:03 a.m.

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Good Job GW! Please consider (for later) either linking or making a wiki version for Meta. Thanks for making this effort. On Tue, Feb 23, 2016, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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All the shit from mailinglists is missing. For the temperature aka the understanding of the developments it is certainly as potent as some of the departures.

Hoi <grin> It is not the point but I will explain the point </grin>. I think GW covered enough relevant points from the list. There are other sources that cover similar comments from here, and sifting through a few hundred long emails to find relevant quotes is going to be a time-consuming activity which will require editorial choices. Choices, which you and others might again disagree with. It's better to just cover big announcements and important messages (important being subjective). Also, please try to avoid colorful language and be appreciative of someone else's effort. Regards Theo

GorillaWarfare

7:06 a.m.

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On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 2:03 AM, Theo10011 <de10011(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Please consider (for later) either linking or making a wiki version for Meta. Thanks for making this effort.

I intend to make a Mediawiki-friendly version once real life is out of the way. – Molly (GorillaWarfare)

Peter Coombe

3:55 p.m.

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Thank you so much for working on this timeline Molly. A beautiful presentation of an ugly situation! Peter On 23 February 2016 at 07:06, GorillaWarfare < gorillawarfarewikipedia(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 2:03 AM, Theo10011 <de10011(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Please consider (for later) either linking or making a wiki version for Meta. Thanks for making this effort.

I intend to make a Mediawiki-friendly version once real life is out of the way. – Molly (GorillaWarfare) _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

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Andreas Kolbe
Chris Keating
Dan Andreescu
Florence Devouard
Gerard Meijssen
GorillaWarfare
MZMcBride
Peter Coombe
Sam Klein
Steven Crossin
Theo10011
Todd Allen