R+R is a legitimate air force interest. I emailed my Army JAG friend, I'm waiting on a response. However, from my own experiences in both Army and USAF computer facilities in Iraq and other middle east countries, we're all arguing about a complete non-issue. Here's the rub: The military, ALL branches of the military, regularly set up and authorize the use of computer labs and stations for off-duty browsing. The navy has them installed on their ships. The Air Force sets them up at air bases, and the army comes in and mooches off of them until we get our own. These facilities are at the discretion of the installation commander and he can always take them back and shut them down. But in practice, that never happens. ****** The *clean* part of Dan's message states it very well. I'm surprised this was ever under discussion.
-Durova
I finally got a response from my JAG friend. The key answer is "unit- specific" which means commander's discretion. However, according to him, the general rule is that personal use is allowed during duty hours as long as it is not "excessive", and off duty hours, most units allow unlimited personal access within the rules of their standing orders (i.e. no porn or criminal sites, etc.).
However, this all comes down to commander's discretion, and they are free to modify the rules under their command as they see fit.
-Dan
On Jan 3, 2008, at 11:55 AM, Durova wrote:
R+R is a legitimate air force interest. I emailed my Army JAG friend, I'm waiting on a response. However, from my own experiences in both Army and USAF computer facilities in Iraq and other middle east countries, we're all arguing about a complete non-issue. Here's the rub: The military, ALL branches of the military, regularly set up and authorize the use of computer labs and stations for off-duty browsing. The navy has them installed on their ships. The Air Force sets them up at air bases, and the army comes in and mooches off of them until we get our own. These facilities are at the discretion of the installation commander and he can always take them back and shut them down. But in practice, that never happens.
The *clean* part of Dan's message states it very well. I'm surprised this was ever under discussion.
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Dan Rosenthal wrote:
I finally got a response from my JAG friend. The key answer is "unit- specific" which means commander's discretion. However, according to him, the general rule is that personal use is allowed during duty hours as long as it is not "excessive", and off duty hours, most units allow unlimited personal access within the rules of their standing orders (i.e. no porn or criminal sites, etc.).
However, this all comes down to commander's discretion, and they are free to modify the rules under their command as they see fit.
Thanks for making that inquiry. The answer makes a lot more sense than Nathan's hard-line approach.
Ec
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