While the Signpost is hosted on the English Wikipedia and started as very much an EN Wiki venture, it aspires to be of more general interest. Looking at that specific issue, yes there is much that is mainly English Wikipedia focused, including a small contribution of mine. But some of the content, such as about the WMF elections is of general community interest, and at least one story is about Wikimedia Commons rather than Wikipedia.
WSC
Message: 2 Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2022 16:35:35 +0200 From: Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: The new Signpost is out! To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: <CAO53wxXgZMW4zGjqoo=xVxu9n0mrnpwJE_7rXUDDnGY4gU= fWw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c55e2e05e9fa0636"
Hoi, De Signpost is een publicatie van de Engelse Wikipedia. Waarom wordt de Wikimedia mailing list daarmee lastig gevallen? Vriendelijke groet, GerardM
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Hoi, The problem with the arguments made in the Signpost is that they represent English Wikipedia and adhere to what some consider what the pov of Wikipedia should be. As a pov it is fine but I do consider it not a publication that is representative. As such I do not need the advertisements for its publication. Thanks,
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 06:50, WereSpielChequers werespielchequers@gmail.com wrote:
While the Signpost is hosted on the English Wikipedia and started as very much an EN Wiki venture, it aspires to be of more general interest. Looking at that specific issue, yes there is much that is mainly English Wikipedia focused, including a small contribution of mine. But some of the content, such as about the WMF elections is of general community interest, and at least one story is about Wikimedia Commons rather than Wikipedia.
WSC
Message: 2 Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2022 16:35:35 +0200 From: Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: The new Signpost is out! To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: <CAO53wxXgZMW4zGjqoo=xVxu9n0mrnpwJE_7rXUDDnGY4gU= fWw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c55e2e05e9fa0636"
Hoi, De Signpost is een publicatie van de Engelse Wikipedia. Waarom wordt de Wikimedia mailing list daarmee lastig gevallen? Vriendelijke groet, GerardM
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Hi Gerard (and everyone else) -
I join with others in saying that links to other newsletters published on our various projects, and in various languages, would be a really valuable addition to this list. Many of us would really like to learn about what different projects consider to be important. I'd really like to encourage that other newsletter links be posted on this list.
Risker/Anne
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 07:31, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, The problem with the arguments made in the Signpost is that they represent English Wikipedia and adhere to what some consider what the pov of Wikipedia should be. As a pov it is fine but I do consider it not a publication that is representative. As such I do not need the advertisements for its publication. Thanks,
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 06:50, WereSpielChequers < werespielchequers@gmail.com> wrote:
While the Signpost is hosted on the English Wikipedia and started as very much an EN Wiki venture, it aspires to be of more general interest. Looking at that specific issue, yes there is much that is mainly English Wikipedia focused, including a small contribution of mine. But some of the content, such as about the WMF elections is of general community interest, and at least one story is about Wikimedia Commons rather than Wikipedia.
WSC
Message: 2 Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2022 16:35:35 +0200 From: Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: The new Signpost is out! To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: <CAO53wxXgZMW4zGjqoo=xVxu9n0mrnpwJE_7rXUDDnGY4gU= fWw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c55e2e05e9fa0636"
Hoi, De Signpost is een publicatie van de Engelse Wikipedia. Waarom wordt de Wikimedia mailing list daarmee lastig gevallen? Vriendelijke groet, GerardM
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It might be worth creating a unified "Newsletters across the Wikimedia movement" email, consisting of the Signpost and any other newsletters/publications produced/released by community members that month - are there any other "newspapers"/publications created by Wikimedia communities and released on a regular basis?
- Sophie (User:Remagoxer)
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 19:23, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Gerard (and everyone else) -
I join with others in saying that links to other newsletters published on our various projects, and in various languages, would be a really valuable addition to this list. Many of us would really like to learn about what different projects consider to be important. I'd really like to encourage that other newsletter links be posted on this list.
Risker/Anne
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 07:31, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, The problem with the arguments made in the Signpost is that they represent English Wikipedia and adhere to what some consider what the pov of Wikipedia should be. As a pov it is fine but I do consider it not a publication that is representative. As such I do not need the advertisements for its publication. Thanks,
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 06:50, WereSpielChequers < werespielchequers@gmail.com> wrote:
While the Signpost is hosted on the English Wikipedia and started as very much an EN Wiki venture, it aspires to be of more general interest. Looking at that specific issue, yes there is much that is mainly English Wikipedia focused, including a small contribution of mine. But some of the content, such as about the WMF elections is of general community interest, and at least one story is about Wikimedia Commons rather than Wikipedia.
WSC
Message: 2 Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2022 16:35:35 +0200 From: Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: The new Signpost is out! To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: <CAO53wxXgZMW4zGjqoo=xVxu9n0mrnpwJE_7rXUDDnGY4gU= fWw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c55e2e05e9fa0636"
Hoi, De Signpost is een publicatie van de Engelse Wikipedia. Waarom wordt de Wikimedia mailing list daarmee lastig gevallen? Vriendelijke groet, GerardM
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Hoi, Be realistic. A newsletter across the Wikimedia Movement would promote existing newsletter that mostly in a language people do not understand.
It does not change my point that I do not want to read promotions for a product that is not representative while it assumes that it does reflect a relevant opinion. An opinion that is mostly negative in its aspirations. Thanks, GerardM
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 20:28, Rexogamer beartechtalks@gmail.com wrote:
It might be worth creating a unified "Newsletters across the Wikimedia movement" email, consisting of the Signpost and any other newsletters/publications produced/released by community members that month
- are there any other "newspapers"/publications created by Wikimedia
communities and released on a regular basis?
- Sophie (User:Remagoxer)
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 19:23, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Gerard (and everyone else) -
I join with others in saying that links to other newsletters published on our various projects, and in various languages, would be a really valuable addition to this list. Many of us would really like to learn about what different projects consider to be important. I'd really like to encourage that other newsletter links be posted on this list.
Risker/Anne
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 07:31, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, The problem with the arguments made in the Signpost is that they represent English Wikipedia and adhere to what some consider what the pov of Wikipedia should be. As a pov it is fine but I do consider it not a publication that is representative. As such I do not need the advertisements for its publication. Thanks,
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 06:50, WereSpielChequers < werespielchequers@gmail.com> wrote:
While the Signpost is hosted on the English Wikipedia and started as very much an EN Wiki venture, it aspires to be of more general interest. Looking at that specific issue, yes there is much that is mainly English Wikipedia focused, including a small contribution of mine. But some of the content, such as about the WMF elections is of general community interest, and at least one story is about Wikimedia Commons rather than Wikipedia.
WSC
Message: 2 Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2022 16:35:35 +0200 From: Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: The new Signpost is out! To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: <CAO53wxXgZMW4zGjqoo=xVxu9n0mrnpwJE_7rXUDDnGY4gU= fWw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c55e2e05e9fa0636"
Hoi, De Signpost is een publicatie van de Engelse Wikipedia. Waarom wordt de Wikimedia mailing list daarmee lastig gevallen? Vriendelijke groet, GerardM
On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 at 14:26, Andreas Kolbe jayen466@gmail.com wrote:
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Gerard,
It's a widely shared mailing list. Its members have a wide range of interests. As some have expressed, that includes an interest in the Signpost. Many posts on many topics posted to this list may not be relevant for you or other subscribers. That's the nature of a shared, public resource. Simply skip over the Signpost messages in your inbox.
~Nate
On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 3:09 PM Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, Be realistic. A newsletter across the Wikimedia Movement would promote existing newsletter that mostly in a language people do not understand.
It does not change my point that I do not want to read promotions for a product that is not representative while it assumes that it does reflect a relevant opinion. An opinion that is mostly negative in its aspirations. Thanks, GerardM
+1
There will always be mails that some people will not be interested in. Often most of them. This does not mean that they are not relevant to the list. We can delete them without reading them if they are not relevant to us.
Cheers,
Peter
From: Nathan [mailto:nawrich@gmail.com] Sent: 03 October 2022 21:27 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: The new Signpost is out!
Gerard,
It's a widely shared mailing list. Its members have a wide range of interests. As some have expressed, that includes an interest in the Signpost. Many posts on many topics posted to this list may not be relevant for you or other subscribers. That's the nature of a shared, public resource. Simply skip over the Signpost messages in your inbox.
~Nate
On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 3:09 PM Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi,
Be realistic. A newsletter across the Wikimedia Movement would promote existing newsletter that mostly in a language people do not understand.
It does not change my point that I do not want to read promotions for a product that is not representative while it assumes that it does reflect a relevant opinion. An opinion that is mostly negative in its aspirations.
Thanks,
GerardM
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If we are looking for a good multi-language solution that avoids English-only usage, I would like to propose utilising Movement Strategy Forum https://forum.movement-strategy.org/ [1]. It is available to any Wikimedia user (it uses Wikimedia SUL as a login) and can be read even by unlogged users. Its star feature is multi-language capability, a translation extension that allows each user to write in its own language and have their entries automatically translated into languages used by other users. One newsletter ("Updates from the Communities https://forum.movement-strategy.org/t/updates-from-the-communities-weekly-newsletter/1411") written by the WMF's Advancement Department is already being shared there since August 2022 [2] (in addition to being published on Facebook).
Movement Strategy and Governance team working in the Wikimedia Foundation has been running the Forum (disclaimer: I work part-time as a member of this team) since spring of this year (Report for the Proposal Review Period https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Strategy/Forum/Community_Review_Report is available on Meta [3]). MS Forum allows users from all communities to share information about their activities and projects. It has a lower entry barrier, as it does not require English proficiency to participate in global discussions. It is also easier to join for newcomers than Meta, which may be a tough place to enter at the beginning.
I welcome everyone to visit the Forum and read about Movement Strategy developments and projects in communities that some of us may have never heard from before. They are there, talking to the Movement in English and many more languages.
Cheers! *User:Nadzik*
[1] – https://forum.movement-strategy.org/ https://forum.movement-strategy.org/ [2] – https://forum.movement-strategy.org/t/updates-from-the-communities-weekly-ne... [3] – https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Strategy/Forum/Community_Review_Rep...
pon., 3 paź 2022 o 22:30 Gregory Varnum gregory.varnum@gmail.com napisał(a):
The Meta-Wiki based tech newsletter is available in a fair number of languages. Perhaps a Meta based truly cross-project newsletter could utilize Meta-Wiki?s translation setup to avoid an English-only usage?
-greg
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On Oct 3, 2022, at 9:09 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
? Hoi, Be realistic. A newsletter across the Wikimedia Movement would promote existing newsletter that mostly in a language people do not understand.
It does not change my point that I do not want to read promotions for a product that is not representative while it assumes that it does reflect a relevant opinion. An opinion that is mostly negative in its aspirations. Thanks, GerardM
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 20:28, Rexogamer beartechtalks@gmail.com wrote:
It might be worth creating a unified "Newsletters across the Wikimedia movement" email, consisting of the Signpost and any other newsletters/publications produced/released by community members that month
- are there any other "newspapers"/publications created by Wikimedia
communities and released on a regular basis?
- Sophie (User:Remagoxer)
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 19:23, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Gerard (and everyone else) -
I join with others in saying that links to other newsletters published on our various projects, and in various languages, would be a really valuable addition to this list. Many of us would really like to learn about what different projects consider to be important. I'd really like to encourage that other newsletter links be posted on this list.
Risker/Anne
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 07:31, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, The problem with the arguments made in the Signpost is that they represent English Wikipedia and adhere to what some consider what the pov of Wikipedia should be. As a pov it is fine but I do consider it not a publication that is representative. As such I do not need the advertisements for its publication. Thanks,
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 06:50, WereSpielChequers < werespielchequers@gmail.com> wrote:
While the Signpost is hosted on the English Wikipedia and started as very much an EN Wiki venture, it aspires to be of more general interest. Looking at that specific issue, yes there is much that is mainly English Wikipedia focused, including a small contribution of mine. But some of the content, such as about the WMF elections is of general community interest, and at least one story is about Wikimedia Commons rather than Wikipedia.
WSC
Message: 2 Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2022 16:35:35 +0200 From: Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: The new Signpost is out! To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: <CAO53wxXgZMW4zGjqoo=xVxu9n0mrnpwJE_7rXUDDnGY4gU= fWw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c55e2e05e9fa0636"
Hoi, De Signpost is een publicatie van de Engelse Wikipedia. Waarom wordt de Wikimedia mailing list daarmee lastig gevallen? Vriendelijke groet, GerardM
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Not sure how that would work.
P
From: Gregory Varnum [mailto:gregory.varnum@gmail.com] Sent: 03 October 2022 22:30 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: The new Signpost is out!
The Meta-Wiki based tech newsletter is available in a fair number of languages. Perhaps a Meta based truly cross-project newsletter could utilize Meta-Wiki?s translation setup to avoid an English-only usage?
-greg
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On Oct 3, 2022, at 9:09 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
?
Hoi,
Be realistic. A newsletter across the Wikimedia Movement would promote existing newsletter that mostly in a language people do not understand.
It does not change my point that I do not want to read promotions for a product that is not representative while it assumes that it does reflect a relevant opinion. An opinion that is mostly negative in its aspirations.
Thanks,
GerardM
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 20:28, Rexogamer beartechtalks@gmail.com wrote:
It might be worth creating a unified "Newsletters across the Wikimedia movement" email, consisting of the Signpost and any other newsletters/publications produced/released by community members that month - are there any other "newspapers"/publications created by Wikimedia communities and released on a regular basis?
- Sophie (User:Remagoxer)
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 19:2 3, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Gerard (and everyone else) -
I join with others in saying that links to other newsletters published on our various projects, and in various languages, would be a really valuable addition to this list. Many of us would really like to learn about what different projects consider to be important. I'd really like to encourage that other newsletter links be posted on this list.
Risker/Anne
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 07:31, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi,
The problem with the arguments made in the Signpost is that they represent English Wikipedia and adhere to what some consider what the pov of Wikipedia should be. As a pov it is fine but I do consider it not a publication that is representative. As such I do not need the advertisements for its publication.
Thanks,
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 06:50, WereSpielChequers werespielchequers@gmail.com wrote:
While the Signpost is hosted on the English Wikipedia and started as very much an EN Wiki venture, it aspires to be of more general interest. Looking at that specific issue, yes there is much that is mainly English Wikipedia focused, including a small contribution of mine. But some of the content, such as about the WMF elections is of general community interest, and at least one story is about Wikimedia Commons rather than Wikipedia.
WSC
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Hoi, De Signpost is een publicatie van de Engelse Wikipedia. Waarom wordt de Wikimedia mailing list daarmee lastig gevallen? Vriendelijke groet, GerardM
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Dear Greg and all,
Before investing a lot of volunteer labour in translations on Meta, I would propose that people experiment with the free translation options available online nowadays (DeepL and Google Translate are the best).
Before I continue, a word of caution: These translations are NOT good enough to write Wikipedia articles in a foreign language. Any such translation will require editing (sometimes a lot of editing ...) by a competent speaker of the target language to make a decent text out of it. But these machine translations ARE good enough today to make sense of foreign-language texts – texts of the kind you might find in the Signpost, or one of its non-English equivalents.
To illustrate the point, here are two translations of a random text taken from the German Kurier https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kurier. The first translation one is by DeepL, the second one by Google Translate:
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Digital themed roundtable: Wikimedia Enterprise and Google Knowledge Graph Wikimedia Enterprise logo.svg The next Digital Topics Roundtable (DTS) on September 27 (7 p.m.) will focus on Wikimedia Enterprise and Google Knowledge Graph. The contents of Wikipedia and Wikidata are in principle freely available to everyone and can also be used commercially, as long as the source is indicated with the correct license. Companies that retrieve a lot of data from the two projects have to pay for it, but then get special access via Wikimedia Enterprise. The focus of Wikimedia Enterprise is on companies that reuse our content - typically on a large scale (e.g. integrated in "Knowledge Graphs", search results, voice assistants, maps, news reports, ...). Knowledge Graphs are displayed as a box on the right side of Google Search, for example, and consist of images, maps, important facts ... and give the reader a brief overview of the searched topic in a prepared form. A short talk will be given on examples of how Google uses content and on Wikimedia Enterprise. Afterwards there will be time for discussion and exchange of experiences.
More information and registration on WP:DTS. We would be pleased about a numerous participation.
Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
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Here is the same text translated by Google Translate https://translate.google.com:
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Digital Topic Round Table: Wikimedia Enterprise and Google Knowledge Graph Wikimedia Enterprise logo.svg The next Digital Topic Round Table (DTS) on September 27 (7 p.m.) will be about Wikimedia Enterprise and Google Knowledge Graph. In principle, the contents of Wikipedia and Wikidata are freely available to everyone and can also be used commercially as long as the source is cited with the correct license. Companies that retrieve a large amount of data from the two projects have to pay for it, but then receive special access via Wikimedia Enterprise. Wikimedia Enterprise's focus is on companies that reuse our content, typically on a large scale (e.g. integrated into knowledge graphs, search results, language assistants, maps, news reports, ...). Knowledge graphs are used e.g. B. in the Google search as a box on the right and consist of images, maps, important facts ... and give the reader a brief overview of the searched topic in a prepared form. A short presentation will cover examples of how content is used by Google and Wikimedia Enterprise. Afterwards there is time for discussion and exchange of experiences.
More information and registration on WP:DTS. We would be happy about a large participation.
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So there are shortcomings in the translations ("in a prepared form" sounds odd, for example; the meaning is more like "in a handy format"), but it is easy enough to get the gist. DeepL has the added advantage that you can click on any word, whereupon it will offer you a dropdown with alternative translations of that word. Google presently has the advantage that it covers more languages than DeepL.
We are a global movement, and we should make more use of the technology available to us to talk to each other across language barriers. I for one would love to see newsletters of all languages posted to this list, and/or linked upon publication on a central page on Meta.
Best, Andreas
On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 9:30 PM Gregory Varnum gregory.varnum@gmail.com wrote:
The Meta-Wiki based tech newsletter is available in a fair number of languages. Perhaps a Meta based truly cross-project newsletter could utilize Meta-Wiki?s translation setup to avoid an English-only usage?
-greg
Sent from my iPhone - a more detailed response may be sent later.
On Oct 3, 2022, at 9:09 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
? Hoi, Be realistic. A newsletter across the Wikimedia Movement would promote existing newsletter that mostly in a language people do not understand.
It does not change my point that I do not want to read promotions for a product that is not representative while it assumes that it does reflect a relevant opinion. An opinion that is mostly negative in its aspirations. Thanks, GerardM
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 20:28, Rexogamer beartechtalks@gmail.com wrote:
It might be worth creating a unified "Newsletters across the Wikimedia movement" email, consisting of the Signpost and any other newsletters/publications produced/released by community members that month
- are there any other "newspapers"/publications created by Wikimedia
communities and released on a regular basis?
- Sophie (User:Remagoxer)
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 19:23, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Gerard (and everyone else) -
I join with others in saying that links to other newsletters published on our various projects, and in various languages, would be a really valuable addition to this list. Many of us would really like to learn about what different projects consider to be important. I'd really like to encourage that other newsletter links be posted on this list.
Risker/Anne
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 07:31, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, The problem with the arguments made in the Signpost is that they represent English Wikipedia and adhere to what some consider what the pov of Wikipedia should be. As a pov it is fine but I do consider it not a publication that is representative. As such I do not need the advertisements for its publication. Thanks,
On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 06:50, WereSpielChequers < werespielchequers@gmail.com> wrote:
While the Signpost is hosted on the English Wikipedia and started as very much an EN Wiki venture, it aspires to be of more general interest. Looking at that specific issue, yes there is much that is mainly English Wikipedia focused, including a small contribution of mine. But some of the content, such as about the WMF elections is of general community interest, and at least one story is about Wikimedia Commons rather than Wikipedia.
WSC
Message: 2 Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2022 16:35:35 +0200 From: Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: The new Signpost is out! To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: <CAO53wxXgZMW4zGjqoo=xVxu9n0mrnpwJE_7rXUDDnGY4gU= fWw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c55e2e05e9fa0636"
Hoi, De Signpost is een publicatie van de Engelse Wikipedia. Waarom wordt de Wikimedia mailing list daarmee lastig gevallen? Vriendelijke groet, GerardM
On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 at 14:26, Andreas Kolbe jayen466@gmail.com wrote:
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