I had to turn off my anti-tracking extension to see this site properly.
What kind of visitor tracking are we using in this site? And if someone is
not willing to be tracked, this site should load fully without breaking the
styling.
---
Shabab Mustafa
T. @tarunno
S. shabab.mustafa
W.
On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 8:13 PM Peter Coombe <pcoombe(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Hi Lodewijk,
I'm not sure exactly what, if any, other sites this new privacy policy
might cover. However I can confirm that the WMF fundraising infrastructure
remains under the existing Donor Privacy Policy:
https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Donor_privacy_policy/en
Thanks,
Peter
--
Peter Coombe
Fundraising Production Manager
Wikimedia Foundation
On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 at 20:00, Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org> wrote:
I can imagine that this alternate privacy policy
is actually covering a
wider range of sites that are non-wiki, such as the fundraising
infrastructure and the survey websites, voting websites etc. Rather than
having a different privacy policy for each of those instances, I think it
is actually clearer to have two policies: one for the content delivery
(the
'wikis') that have practically zero
cookie tracking to the best of my
knowledge and one for the other websites that may require other methods
to
be functional.
As a sidenote, I think it actually could be a totally fair statement to
say
that
wikimediafoundation.org is, relative to the
content projects, not a
'major site' of the WMF. It is supporting infrastructure at best. (no
offense :) )
Lodewijk
On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 7:23 AM Chico Venancio <chicocvenancio(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Indeed an special watered down privacy policy is strange. It is worth
> noting that the standard privacy policy[1] does not state that it only
> applies to "wiki based websites" but instead lists what it does and
does
not
cover[2], the only interpretation that allows a separate policy for
the
new website weirdly leaves*
https://wikimediafoundation.org/
<https://wikimediafoundation.org/> as being defined to not be a major
site
> of WMF. *
>
> Irregardless of possible poor wording of both privacy policies, I find
it
> strange that the main website for WMF has a
tracking pixel and forces
> visitors to provide users' personal information (as defined by either
> privacy policies) to Google and
Wordpress.com.
>
> Perhaps this is something WMF could revisit?
>
> Best regards,
> Chico Venancio
>
> [
1]https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_policy
> [
2]https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_policy#coverage
>
>
>
> 2018-08-06 2:06 GMT-03:00 Yair Rand <yyairrand(a)gmail.com>om>:
>
> > There are several more issues I've noticed with the new website:
> > * According to the notice at the bottom, the company "Automattic
Inc."
is
> receiving all sorts of data about all
visitors to the site, including
> location information, cookie data, data from pixel tags/web beacons
used
> to
> > track visitors and target ads on other WordPress sites, and other
data.
> *
The "non-wiki privacy policy of the Wikimedia Foundation" linked at
the
> > bottom is different than the regular privacy policy. Why is this?
> > * Much of the content is essentially English-Wikipedia-only. "Visit
The
> > Teahouse for a friendly place to learn
about editing" Most Wikipedias
> don't
> > have teahouses or equivalents.
> > * In "Wikimedia projects": "Wikipedia - All the world's
knowledge".
See
[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate
collection of
information]].
> * "Working with partners like Google, the Metropolitan Museum of Art,
and
> > UNESCO, Wikimedia...". I don't think most Wikimedians are okay with
the
WMF
> describing Google as among its partners. Nor the Met or UNESCO, for
that
> > matter.
> > * In the "Technology" section, there's a paragraph devoted to
bragging
>
about how NASA has an internal Mediawiki wiki. I don't think that
belongs
> > there.
> > * The actual Wikimedia Foundation Mission is kind of buried deep in
the
> > site. The Mission is the definitive
version of what the WMF is
supposed
to
> be doing, and I really think it should be highlighted somewhere in a
more
> prominent position.
>
> "The mission of the Wikimedia Foundation is to empower and engage
people
> around the world to collect and develop
educational content under a
free
> > license or in the public domain, and to disseminate it effectively
and
>
globally.
>
> In collaboration with a network of chapters, the Wikimedia Foundation
> provides the essential infrastructure and an organizational framework
for
> > the support and development of multilingual wiki projects and other
> > endeavors which serve this mission. The Foundation will make and keep
> > useful information from its projects available on the Internet free
of
> > charge, in perpetuity."
> >
> > -- Yair Rand
> >
> > 2018-08-03 17:12 GMT-04:00 Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk>uk>:
> >
> > > On 2 August 2018 at 02:51, Gregory Varnum <gvarnum(a)wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > You can check it out for yourself here (you may need to clear
your
> > > browser's cache):
https://wikimediafoundation.org/
> > >
> > > The home page currently says:
> > >
> > > " Everything on a Wikimedia site is available as Creative
Commons
> >
material. "
> >
> > That is not true. Material includes:
> >
> > * PD content (copyright expires; US government, etc)
> > * Fair-use copyright material.
> >
> > In the latter case, suggesting otherwise could be harmful to our
users.
> > >
> > >
> > > Furthermore, the "Sesame Street" image used on the site's
home page
> > > and the linked article, is labelled on Commons: "This work might
not
> > > be available under a free license
in the United States because it
is
> > > based on an artwork or sculpture
that may be protected by copyright
> > > under U.S. law."
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andy Mabbett
> > > @pigsonthewing
> > >
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
> > >
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