I had to turn off my anti-tracking extension to see this site properly. What kind of visitor tracking are we using in this site? And if someone is not willing to be tracked, this site should load fully without breaking the styling. --- Shabab Mustafa T. @tarunno S. shabab.mustafa W. https://shabab.me
On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 8:13 PM Peter Coombe pcoombe@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Lodewijk,
I'm not sure exactly what, if any, other sites this new privacy policy might cover. However I can confirm that the WMF fundraising infrastructure remains under the existing Donor Privacy Policy: https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Donor_privacy_policy/en
Thanks, Peter
-- Peter Coombe Fundraising Production Manager Wikimedia Foundation
On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 at 20:00, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
I can imagine that this alternate privacy policy is actually covering a wider range of sites that are non-wiki, such as the fundraising infrastructure and the survey websites, voting websites etc. Rather than having a different privacy policy for each of those instances, I think it is actually clearer to have two policies: one for the content delivery
(the
'wikis') that have practically zero cookie tracking to the best of my knowledge and one for the other websites that may require other methods
to
be functional.
As a sidenote, I think it actually could be a totally fair statement to
say
that wikimediafoundation.org is, relative to the content projects, not a 'major site' of the WMF. It is supporting infrastructure at best. (no offense :) )
Lodewijk
On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 7:23 AM Chico Venancio chicocvenancio@gmail.com wrote:
Indeed an special watered down privacy policy is strange. It is worth noting that the standard privacy policy[1] does not state that it only applies to "wiki based websites" but instead lists what it does and
does
not cover[2], the only interpretation that allows a separate policy for
the
new website weirdly leaves* https://wikimediafoundation.org/ https://wikimediafoundation.org/ as being defined to not be a major
site
of WMF. *
Irregardless of possible poor wording of both privacy policies, I find
it
strange that the main website for WMF has a tracking pixel and forces visitors to provide users' personal information (as defined by either privacy policies) to Google and Wordpress.com.
Perhaps this is something WMF could revisit?
Best regards, Chico Venancio
[1]https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_policy [2]https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_policy#coverage
2018-08-06 2:06 GMT-03:00 Yair Rand yyairrand@gmail.com:
There are several more issues I've noticed with the new website:
- According to the notice at the bottom, the company "Automattic
Inc."
is
receiving all sorts of data about all visitors to the site, including location information, cookie data, data from pixel tags/web beacons
used
to
track visitors and target ads on other WordPress sites, and other
data.
- The "non-wiki privacy policy of the Wikimedia Foundation" linked at
the
bottom is different than the regular privacy policy. Why is this?
- Much of the content is essentially English-Wikipedia-only. "Visit
The
Teahouse for a friendly place to learn about editing" Most Wikipedias
don't
have teahouses or equivalents.
- In "Wikimedia projects": "Wikipedia - All the world's knowledge".
See
[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of
information]].
- "Working with partners like Google, the Metropolitan Museum of Art,
and
UNESCO, Wikimedia...". I don't think most Wikimedians are okay with
the
WMF
describing Google as among its partners. Nor the Met or UNESCO, for
that
matter.
- In the "Technology" section, there's a paragraph devoted to
bragging
about how NASA has an internal Mediawiki wiki. I don't think that
belongs
there.
- The actual Wikimedia Foundation Mission is kind of buried deep in
the
site. The Mission is the definitive version of what the WMF is
supposed
to
be doing, and I really think it should be highlighted somewhere in a
more
prominent position.
"The mission of the Wikimedia Foundation is to empower and engage
people
around the world to collect and develop educational content under a
free
license or in the public domain, and to disseminate it effectively
and
globally.
In collaboration with a network of chapters, the Wikimedia Foundation provides the essential infrastructure and an organizational framework
for
the support and development of multilingual wiki projects and other endeavors which serve this mission. The Foundation will make and keep useful information from its projects available on the Internet free
of
charge, in perpetuity."
-- Yair Rand
2018-08-03 17:12 GMT-04:00 Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk:
On 2 August 2018 at 02:51, Gregory Varnum gvarnum@wikimedia.org
wrote:
You can check it out for yourself here (you may need to clear
your
browser's cache): https://wikimediafoundation.org/
The home page currently says:
" Everything on a Wikimedia site is available as Creative
Commons
material. "
That is not true. Material includes:
- PD content (copyright expires; US government, etc)
- Fair-use copyright material.
In the latter case, suggesting otherwise could be harmful to our
users.
Furthermore, the "Sesame Street" image used on the site's home page and the linked article, is labelled on Commons: "This work might
not
be available under a free license in the United States because it
is
based on an artwork or sculpture that may be protected by copyright under U.S. law."
-- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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