***Registration is now open for the Wikimedia Boards Training Workshop in London, 1-2 March 2014.***
Are you a Board member of a Wikimedia Chapter or Thematic Organisation? Then this workshop is for you! We are drawing on expertise from within the Wikimedia movement and beyond to produce a two-day training session which will aim to give Board members the skills and knowledge to do a great job.
The programme and venue details for the workshop is here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Boards_training_workshop_March_2014
You can register for the event here: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/register?orderid=233759341483
Registration is open to all Wikimedia chapter / thematic org board members but those who have, or expect to recruit, staff will gain the most out of it. Registration costs £50, and accommodation options will cost £70 or cost £120 per night. There is a maximum of 20 places available.
Some frequently asked questions:
* Are there scholarships? Yes. If your chapter / organisation is not able to cover the costs, please fill in the "Will you require a scholarship to attend?" box on the form with an estimate of how much your travel will be. There will be a number of scholarships on offer. All scholarships offered will cover registration, food, accommodation and travel (no-one is expected to pay for this event out of their own pocket). We will be in touch with everyone requesting a scholarship within 2 weeks with a definite answer.
* What if my attendance depends on visas / being re-elected? If you register but are unable to attend because of visa issues, or if you leave your organisation's Board before the workshop, we will offer your place to someone else from your chapter/organisation. Also, if you need a visa, Wikimedia UK will help (e.g. with a letter of invitation).
* This is a great idea but is too far away from me - what can I do? This is a first step and hopefully, if it succeeds, there will be more similar events in future. (Hopefully not all of them will be in London or in English, either). If you feel that training and supporting boards is important, then you can also raise this in the calls for programme for the Wikimedia Conference and Wikimania.
Regards,
Chris on behalf of Wikimedia UK and the organising committee
Correcting link: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/board-training-workshop-tickets-8850487045
*cough*
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.comwrote:
***Registration is now open for the Wikimedia Boards Training Workshop in London, 1-2 March 2014.***
Are you a Board member of a Wikimedia Chapter or Thematic Organisation? Then this workshop is for you! We are drawing on expertise from within the Wikimedia movement and beyond to produce a two-day training session which will aim to give Board members the skills and knowledge to do a great job.
The programme and venue details for the workshop is here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Boards_training_workshop_March_2014
You can register for the event here: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/register?orderid=233759341483
Registration is open to all Wikimedia chapter / thematic org board members but those who have, or expect to recruit, staff will gain the most out of it. Registration costs £50, and accommodation options will cost £70 or cost £120 per night. There is a maximum of 20 places available.
Some frequently asked questions:
- Are there scholarships?
Yes. If your chapter / organisation is not able to cover the costs, please fill in the "Will you require a scholarship to attend?" box on the form with an estimate of how much your travel will be. There will be a number of scholarships on offer. All scholarships offered will cover registration, food, accommodation and travel (no-one is expected to pay for this event out of their own pocket). We will be in touch with everyone requesting a scholarship within 2 weeks with a definite answer.
- What if my attendance depends on visas / being re-elected?
If you register but are unable to attend because of visa issues, or if you leave your organisation's Board before the workshop, we will offer your place to someone else from your chapter/organisation. Also, if you need a visa, Wikimedia UK will help (e.g. with a letter of invitation).
- This is a great idea but is too far away from me - what can I do?
This is a first step and hopefully, if it succeeds, there will be more similar events in future. (Hopefully not all of them will be in London or in English, either). If you feel that training and supporting boards is important, then you can also raise this in the calls for programme for the Wikimedia Conference and Wikimania.
Regards,
Chris on behalf of Wikimedia UK and the organising committee
Also, in response to a query: It is possible to register without paying registration right away. If you click "Other Payment Options" you can select one of those and we will settle up with you eventually. :-)
Chris
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.comwrote:
Correcting link: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/board-training-workshop-tickets-8850487045
*cough*
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.comwrote:
***Registration is now open for the Wikimedia Boards Training Workshop in London, 1-2 March 2014.***
Are you a Board member of a Wikimedia Chapter or Thematic Organisation? Then this workshop is for you! We are drawing on expertise from within the Wikimedia movement and beyond to produce a two-day training session which will aim to give Board members the skills and knowledge to do a great job.
The programme and venue details for the workshop is here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Boards_training_workshop_March_2014
You can register for the event here: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/register?orderid=233759341483
Registration is open to all Wikimedia chapter / thematic org board members but those who have, or expect to recruit, staff will gain the most out of it. Registration costs £50, and accommodation options will cost £70 or cost £120 per night. There is a maximum of 20 places available.
Some frequently asked questions:
- Are there scholarships?
Yes. If your chapter / organisation is not able to cover the costs, please fill in the "Will you require a scholarship to attend?" box on the form with an estimate of how much your travel will be. There will be a number of scholarships on offer. All scholarships offered will cover registration, food, accommodation and travel (no-one is expected to pay for this event out of their own pocket). We will be in touch with everyone requesting a scholarship within 2 weeks with a definite answer.
- What if my attendance depends on visas / being re-elected?
If you register but are unable to attend because of visa issues, or if you leave your organisation's Board before the workshop, we will offer your place to someone else from your chapter/organisation. Also, if you need a visa, Wikimedia UK will help (e.g. with a letter of invitation).
- This is a great idea but is too far away from me - what can I do?
This is a first step and hopefully, if it succeeds, there will be more similar events in future. (Hopefully not all of them will be in London or in English, either). If you feel that training and supporting boards is important, then you can also raise this in the calls for programme for the Wikimedia Conference and Wikimania.
Regards,
Chris on behalf of Wikimedia UK and the organising committee
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.comwrote:
Also, in response to a query: It is possible to register without paying registration right away. If you click "Other Payment Options" you can select one of those and we will settle up with you eventually. :-)
Chris
For those wanting to attend but needing scholarships to cover the event, how do we bypass the 50 pound registration window? Also, WM-UK scholarships will cover above the per diem rate that the WMF limits people to correct? :/
Sincerely, Laura Hale
-- twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com
Hi Laura, you can bypass the registration fee by selecting "other payment option" in the way I said.
In response to another off list query, I should point out that unfortunately this workshop is only open to existing (incorporated & recognised) chapters/thorgs, not those still in planning or awaiting recognition.
Regards, On 5 Dec 2013 20:27, "Laura Hale" laura@fanhistory.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Chris Keating <chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com
wrote:
Also, in response to a query: It is possible to register without paying registration right away. If you click "Other Payment Options" you can select one of those and we will settle up with you eventually. :-)
Chris
For those wanting to attend but needing scholarships to cover the event, how do we bypass the 50 pound registration window? Also, WM-UK scholarships will cover above the per diem rate that the WMF limits people to correct? :/
Sincerely, Laura Hale
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Hi Chris,
If there is only one Wikimedia Foundation board recognised thematic organization, why did you chose to use a plural? And The Wikinewsie Group has aff-comm recognition, and as the Board has never rejected an aff-comm recommendation, I don't particularly see the problem.
What I do see as problematic is WM-UK organizing this conference, talking about chapters moving towards professionalism in the context of the Wikimedia Movement while charging chapters and a thematic organization to attend, selecting a hotel for participants to stay at that costs above the per diem rate that the WMF funds for, and then saying there is the expectation that it will not be an issue for people to attend with the high registration fee and high accomodation costs because these will not be incurred by individuals but by their organizations.
As the Movement appears to be having a discussion about finacial responsibility and effect use of donor funds, that sort of approach appears to run counter to all of that. No explanation other than "We talked down the price!" appears to have been forth coming as to why a place was selected that costs roughly USD$200 a night. There is no agenda for this conference to understand why the conference is worth that expensive costs. The people presenting clearly are not in need of the conference as it is Wikimedia UK, Wikimedia DE, Wikimedia PL, Wikimedia France. These are by and large the chapters with FDC funding or access to independent sources of funding. They are clearly not being targetted for training. The people who appear to be targetted as attendees are ones who have no money... and you're off to charge them large amounts.
I don't see how these costs, which you expect to be absorbed by donor funds, are a good use of those funds. I don't see how expecting people to incur expenses over around USD$850 to attend a two day conference ($400 for two nights, $65 for registration, $230 for a flight from somewhere close in Europe, $50 to get to the event from the airport, $100 in food) where the thing starts out by violating WMF guidelines.
What knowledge exactly are you planning to pass on to people from less developed chapters? Fiscal responsibility, best use of donor funds, following WMF's best practices for grant funding... These are off the table? What else is there?
Sincerely, Laura Hale
On Friday, December 6, 2013, Chris Keating wrote:
Hi Laura, you can bypass the registration fee by selecting "other payment option" in the way I said.
In response to another off list query, I should point out that unfortunately this workshop is only open to existing (incorporated & recognised) chapters/thorgs, not those still in planning or awaiting recognition.
Hi Laura,
Actually I hope both larger and smaller organisations will gain from this event. Larger organisations' boards certainly need training and support as much as smaller ones, though there are different challenges at different stages of development.
I'm pleased to say of the people who have registered so far there is a broad mixture from three continents and I hope we will be able to fund as many people as possible.
It would certainly be great if there was more support available for organisations just starting out, available for free. So far as I know, no-one has ever taken a synoptic look at the support and development needs of Wikimedia movement organisations and tried to work out how to meet them. Who might take that on and how it might be funded is an open question.
Regards,
Chris Hi Chris,
If there is only one Wikimedia Foundation board recognised thematic organization, why did you chose to use a plural? And The Wikinewsie Group has aff-comm recognition, and as the Board has never rejected an aff-comm recommendation, I don't particularly see the problem.
What I do see as problematic is WM-UK organizing this conference, talking about chapters moving towards professionalism in the context of the Wikimedia Movement while charging chapters and a thematic organization to attend, selecting a hotel for participants to stay at that costs above the per diem rate that the WMF funds for, and then saying there is the expectation that it will not be an issue for people to attend with the high registration fee and high accomodation costs because these will not be incurred by individuals but by their organizations.
As the Movement appears to be having a discussion about finacial responsibility and effect use of donor funds, that sort of approach appears to run counter to all of that. No explanation other than "We talked down the price!" appears to have been forth coming as to why a place was selected that costs roughly USD$200 a night. There is no agenda for this conference to understand why the conference is worth that expensive costs. The people presenting clearly are not in need of the conference as it is Wikimedia UK, Wikimedia DE, Wikimedia PL, Wikimedia France. These are by and large the chapters with FDC funding or access to independent sources of funding. They are clearly not being targetted for training. The people who appear to be targetted as attendees are ones who have no money... and you're off to charge them large amounts.
I don't see how these costs, which you expect to be absorbed by donor funds, are a good use of those funds. I don't see how expecting people to incur expenses over around USD$850 to attend a two day conference ($400 for two nights, $65 for registration, $230 for a flight from somewhere close in Europe, $50 to get to the event from the airport, $100 in food) where the thing starts out by violating WMF guidelines.
What knowledge exactly are you planning to pass on to people from less developed chapters? Fiscal responsibility, best use of donor funds, following WMF's best practices for grant funding... These are off the table? What else is there?
Sincerely, Laura Hale
On Friday, December 6, 2013, Chris Keating wrote:
Hi Laura, you can bypass the registration fee by selecting "other payment option" in the way I said.
In response to another off list query, I should point out that unfortunately this workshop is only open to existing (incorporated & recognised) chapters/thorgs, not those still in planning or awaiting recognition.
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Hi all,
As this event supposed to target guys like me, let me give you a short feedback about the program.
I see nothing practical, nothing useful in it. It is full of defining this, defining that sessions. And they are extremely long.
Not a word about financial planning, not a word about community management (as "chapter's community") nothing about volunteer recruitement, not a word about negotiating (as negotiating skills, including convincing techniques and other related knowledge) cost management (cost cutting, replanning), managerial approaches and attitudes (managerial skills and styles, best practices), etc. etc. The line is long.
I see no practical skills discussed, except if the aim is to make us able to discuss chapter-related __theoretical__ things in a much deeper way than before. Ever. Nice to have clear visions for the future though but what this event covers is about 20% of what is called "management" altough I had to admit, it is the most interesting 20%. For me too.
Cheers, Balazs
*Balazs Viczian* Executive Vice President *Wikimédia Magyarország Egyesület*
Tel: +36 70 633 6372 Mail: balazs.viczian@wikimedia.hu Web: www.wikimedia.hu Blog: Magyar Wikipédia Magazinhttp://huwiki.blogspot.hu Facebook: Magyar Wikipédia https://www.facebook.com/hu.wikipedia
2013/12/6 Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com
Hi Laura,
Actually I hope both larger and smaller organisations will gain from this event. Larger organisations' boards certainly need training and support as much as smaller ones, though there are different challenges at different stages of development.
I'm pleased to say of the people who have registered so far there is a broad mixture from three continents and I hope we will be able to fund as many people as possible.
It would certainly be great if there was more support available for organisations just starting out, available for free. So far as I know, no-one has ever taken a synoptic look at the support and development needs of Wikimedia movement organisations and tried to work out how to meet them. Who might take that on and how it might be funded is an open question.
Regards,
Chris Hi Chris,
If there is only one Wikimedia Foundation board recognised thematic organization, why did you chose to use a plural? And The Wikinewsie Group has aff-comm recognition, and as the Board has never rejected an aff-comm recommendation, I don't particularly see the problem.
What I do see as problematic is WM-UK organizing this conference, talking about chapters moving towards professionalism in the context of the Wikimedia Movement while charging chapters and a thematic organization to attend, selecting a hotel for participants to stay at that costs above the per diem rate that the WMF funds for, and then saying there is the expectation that it will not be an issue for people to attend with the high registration fee and high accomodation costs because these will not be incurred by individuals but by their organizations.
As the Movement appears to be having a discussion about finacial responsibility and effect use of donor funds, that sort of approach appears to run counter to all of that. No explanation other than "We talked down the price!" appears to have been forth coming as to why a place was selected that costs roughly USD$200 a night. There is no agenda for this conference to understand why the conference is worth that expensive costs. The people presenting clearly are not in need of the conference as it is Wikimedia UK, Wikimedia DE, Wikimedia PL, Wikimedia France. These are by and large the chapters with FDC funding or access to independent sources of funding. They are clearly not being targetted for training. The people who appear to be targetted as attendees are ones who have no money... and you're off to charge them large amounts.
I don't see how these costs, which you expect to be absorbed by donor funds, are a good use of those funds. I don't see how expecting people to incur expenses over around USD$850 to attend a two day conference ($400 for two nights, $65 for registration, $230 for a flight from somewhere close in Europe, $50 to get to the event from the airport, $100 in food) where the thing starts out by violating WMF guidelines.
What knowledge exactly are you planning to pass on to people from less developed chapters? Fiscal responsibility, best use of donor funds, following WMF's best practices for grant funding... These are off the table? What else is there?
Sincerely, Laura Hale
On Friday, December 6, 2013, Chris Keating wrote:
Hi Laura, you can bypass the registration fee by selecting "other payment option" in the way I said.
In response to another off list query, I should point out that unfortunately this workshop is only open to existing (incorporated & recognised) chapters/thorgs, not those still in planning or awaiting recognition.
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Thanks Balazs! All 20 spaces on the workshop are now taken. :)
On 6 Dec 2013 18:48, "Balázs Viczián" balazs.viczian@wikimedia.hu wrote:
Hi all,
As this event supposed to target guys like me, let me give you a short feedback about the program.
I see nothing practical, nothing useful in it. It is full of defining this, defining that sessions. And they are extremely long.
Not a word about financial planning, not a word about community management (as "chapter's community") nothing about volunteer recruitement, not a word about negotiating (as negotiating skills, including convincing techniques and other related knowledge) cost management (cost cutting, replanning), managerial approaches and attitudes (managerial skills and styles, best practices), etc. etc. The line is long.
I see no practical skills discussed, except if the aim is to make us able to discuss chapter-related __theoretical__ things in a much deeper way than before. Ever. Nice to have clear visions for the future though but what this event covers is about 20% of what is called "management" altough I had to admit, it is the most interesting 20%. For me too.
Cheers, Balazs
*Balazs Viczian* Executive Vice President *Wikimédia Magyarország Egyesület*
Tel: +36 70 633 6372 Mail: balazs.viczian@wikimedia.hu Web: www.wikimedia.hu Blog: Magyar Wikipédia Magazin< http://huwiki.blogspot.hu%3E Facebook: Magyar Wikipédia https://www.facebook.com/hu.wikipedia
2013/12/6 Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com
Hi Laura,
Actually I hope both larger and smaller organisations will gain from this event. Larger organisations' boards certainly need training and support
as
much as smaller ones, though there are different challenges at different stages of development.
I'm pleased to say of the people who have registered so far there is a broad mixture from three continents and I hope we will be able to fund as many people as possible.
It would certainly be great if there was more support available for organisations just starting out, available for free. So far as I know, no-one has ever taken a synoptic look at the support and development
needs
of Wikimedia movement organisations and tried to work out how to meet
them.
Who might take that on and how it might be funded is an open question.
Regards,
Chris Hi Chris,
If there is only one Wikimedia Foundation board recognised thematic organization, why did you chose to use a plural? And The Wikinewsie
Group
has aff-comm recognition, and as the Board has never rejected an aff-comm recommendation, I don't particularly see the problem.
What I do see as problematic is WM-UK organizing this conference, talking about chapters moving towards professionalism in the context of the Wikimedia Movement while charging chapters and a thematic organization to attend, selecting a hotel for participants to stay at that costs above
the
per diem rate that the WMF funds for, and then saying there is the expectation that it will not be an issue for people to attend with the
high
registration fee and high accomodation costs because these will not be incurred by individuals but by their organizations.
As the Movement appears to be having a discussion about finacial responsibility and effect use of donor funds, that sort of approach
appears
to run counter to all of that. No explanation other than "We talked down the price!" appears to have been forth coming as to why a place was selected that costs roughly USD$200 a night. There is no agenda for this conference to understand why the conference is worth that expensive
costs.
The people presenting clearly are not in need of the conference as it is Wikimedia UK, Wikimedia DE, Wikimedia PL, Wikimedia France. These are by and large the chapters with FDC funding or access to independent sources
of
funding. They are clearly not being targetted for training. The people who appear to be targetted as attendees are ones who have no money... and you're off to charge them large amounts.
I don't see how these costs, which you expect to be absorbed by donor funds, are a good use of those funds. I don't see how expecting people
to
incur expenses over around USD$850 to attend a two day conference ($400
for
two nights, $65 for registration, $230 for a flight from somewhere close
in
Europe, $50 to get to the event from the airport, $100 in food) where the thing starts out by violating WMF guidelines.
What knowledge exactly are you planning to pass on to people from less developed chapters? Fiscal responsibility, best use of donor funds, following WMF's best practices for grant funding... These are off the table? What else is there?
Sincerely, Laura Hale
On Friday, December 6, 2013, Chris Keating wrote:
Hi Laura, you can bypass the registration fee by selecting "other
payment
option" in the way I said.
In response to another off list query, I should point out that unfortunately this workshop is only open to existing (incorporated & recognised) chapters/thorgs, not those still in planning or awaiting recognition.
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Well, this answer should be amongst the "how not" examples, worthy having an own topic itself.
Another topic not related to the event but highly relevant for the "answer" from Chris: "freebies". Obvious issue never spoken of.
This event can be held anywhere in the world as long as it is "free" for the participants (no own money spent), you'll always have full house. You don't really need anything else than covering expenses. No problem with last minute programming, declined WMF funding or whatever. Expenses covered? They'll be there.
Cheers, Balazs
2013/12/6 Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com
Thanks Balazs! All 20 spaces on the workshop are now taken. :)
On 6 Dec 2013 18:48, "Balázs Viczián" balazs.viczian@wikimedia.hu wrote:
Hi all,
As this event supposed to target guys like me, let me give you a short feedback about the program.
I see nothing practical, nothing useful in it. It is full of defining
this,
defining that sessions. And they are extremely long.
Not a word about financial planning, not a word about community
management
(as "chapter's community") nothing about volunteer recruitement, not a
word
about negotiating (as negotiating skills, including convincing techniques and other related knowledge) cost management (cost cutting, replanning), managerial approaches and attitudes (managerial skills and styles, best practices), etc. etc. The line is long.
I see no practical skills discussed, except if the aim is to make us able to discuss chapter-related __theoretical__ things in a much deeper way
than
before. Ever. Nice to have clear visions for the future though but what this event covers is about 20% of what is called "management" altough I
had
to admit, it is the most interesting 20%. For me too.
Cheers, Balazs
*Balazs Viczian* Executive Vice President *Wikimédia Magyarország Egyesület*
Tel: +36 70 633 6372 Mail: balazs.viczian@wikimedia.hu Web: www.wikimedia.hu Blog: Magyar Wikipédia Magazin< http://huwiki.blogspot.hu%3E Facebook: Magyar Wikipédia https://www.facebook.com/hu.wikipedia
2013/12/6 Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com
Hi Laura,
Actually I hope both larger and smaller organisations will gain from
this
event. Larger organisations' boards certainly need training and support
as
much as smaller ones, though there are different challenges at
different
stages of development.
I'm pleased to say of the people who have registered so far there is a broad mixture from three continents and I hope we will be able to fund
as
many people as possible.
It would certainly be great if there was more support available for organisations just starting out, available for free. So far as I know, no-one has ever taken a synoptic look at the support and development
needs
of Wikimedia movement organisations and tried to work out how to meet
them.
Who might take that on and how it might be funded is an open question.
Regards,
Chris Hi Chris,
If there is only one Wikimedia Foundation board recognised thematic organization, why did you chose to use a plural? And The Wikinewsie
Group
has aff-comm recognition, and as the Board has never rejected an
aff-comm
recommendation, I don't particularly see the problem.
What I do see as problematic is WM-UK organizing this conference,
talking
about chapters moving towards professionalism in the context of the Wikimedia Movement while charging chapters and a thematic organization
to
attend, selecting a hotel for participants to stay at that costs above
the
per diem rate that the WMF funds for, and then saying there is the expectation that it will not be an issue for people to attend with the
high
registration fee and high accomodation costs because these will not be incurred by individuals but by their organizations.
As the Movement appears to be having a discussion about finacial responsibility and effect use of donor funds, that sort of approach
appears
to run counter to all of that. No explanation other than "We talked
down
the price!" appears to have been forth coming as to why a place was selected that costs roughly USD$200 a night. There is no agenda for
this
conference to understand why the conference is worth that expensive
costs.
The people presenting clearly are not in need of the conference as it
is
Wikimedia UK, Wikimedia DE, Wikimedia PL, Wikimedia France. These are
by
and large the chapters with FDC funding or access to independent
sources
of
funding. They are clearly not being targetted for training. The
people
who appear to be targetted as attendees are ones who have no money...
and
you're off to charge them large amounts.
I don't see how these costs, which you expect to be absorbed by donor funds, are a good use of those funds. I don't see how expecting people
to
incur expenses over around USD$850 to attend a two day conference ($400
for
two nights, $65 for registration, $230 for a flight from somewhere
close
in
Europe, $50 to get to the event from the airport, $100 in food) where
the
thing starts out by violating WMF guidelines.
What knowledge exactly are you planning to pass on to people from less developed chapters? Fiscal responsibility, best use of donor funds, following WMF's best practices for grant funding... These are off the table? What else is there?
Sincerely, Laura Hale
On Friday, December 6, 2013, Chris Keating wrote:
Hi Laura, you can bypass the registration fee by selecting "other
payment
option" in the way I said.
In response to another off list query, I should point out that unfortunately this workshop is only open to existing (incorporated & recognised) chapters/thorgs, not those still in planning or awaiting recognition.
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Hey Chris,
Hope you're fine.
The eventbrite link isn't working properly from France :(
Thanks for your help
Best, -- Christophe
On 5 December 2013 18:59, Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com wrote:
***Registration is now open for the Wikimedia Boards Training Workshop in London, 1-2 March 2014.***
Are you a Board member of a Wikimedia Chapter or Thematic Organisation? Then this workshop is for you! We are drawing on expertise from within the Wikimedia movement and beyond to produce a two-day training session which will aim to give Board members the skills and knowledge to do a great job.
The programme and venue details for the workshop is here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Boards_training_workshop_March_2014
You can register for the event here: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/register?orderid=233759341483
Registration is open to all Wikimedia chapter / thematic org board members but those who have, or expect to recruit, staff will gain the most out of it. Registration costs £50, and accommodation options will cost £70 or cost £120 per night. There is a maximum of 20 places available.
Some frequently asked questions:
- Are there scholarships?
Yes. If your chapter / organisation is not able to cover the costs, please fill in the "Will you require a scholarship to attend?" box on the form with an estimate of how much your travel will be. There will be a number of scholarships on offer. All scholarships offered will cover registration, food, accommodation and travel (no-one is expected to pay for this event out of their own pocket). We will be in touch with everyone requesting a scholarship within 2 weeks with a definite answer.
- What if my attendance depends on visas / being re-elected?
If you register but are unable to attend because of visa issues, or if you leave your organisation's Board before the workshop, we will offer your place to someone else from your chapter/organisation. Also, if you need a visa, Wikimedia UK will help (e.g. with a letter of invitation).
- This is a great idea but is too far away from me - what can I do?
This is a first step and hopefully, if it succeeds, there will be more similar events in future. (Hopefully not all of them will be in London or in English, either). If you feel that training and supporting boards is important, then you can also raise this in the calls for programme for the Wikimedia Conference and Wikimania.
Regards,
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